Fishing with a net

[Impenitent]

Fishers tend to catch more fish when they fish with a net

certain religions recommend "fishing" with nets (groups)

of course this is a proven anti-reel-ism approach

-Imp

[commonsense]

Fishers tend to catch more fish when they fish with a net

certain religions recommend "fishing" with nets (groups)

of course this is a proven anti-reel-ism approach

-Imp

another impressive gem

[promethean75]

"certain religions recommend "fishing" with nets (groups)"

It's an excellent strategy tho. It immediately disarms the skeptic of his suspicions.

1. Here is a group of people, not just one, so whatever they believe has had some degree of peer review. It's easier to believe something that four people believe instead of one person.

2. They're friendly... this is a fellowship, a fraternity, and I'm alone and lonely. Gosh maybe i should join them.

3. They got each other's back. If the skeptic raises a heavy philosophical question and one from the group struggles to answer it (becuz it's way the fuck over his head), the others will try to come to his rescue.

[Age]

"certain religions recommend "fishing" with nets (groups)"

It's an excellent strategy tho. It immediately disarms the skeptic of his suspicions.

Really?

If yes, then how, exactly?

1. Here is a group of people, not just one, so whatever they believe has had some degree of peer review. It's easier to believe something that four people believe instead of one person.

1. I choose never to believe, nor disbelieve, anything. This way I would not be so closed as to believe something like, here is a group of people, therefore whatever they believe has had some degree of peer review. Also, if I choose to neither believe nor disbelieve anything, then this makes it impossible to be believe something four people believe instead of one person.

2. They're friendly... this is a fellowship, a fraternity, and I'm alone and lonely. Gosh maybe i should join them.

It does not matter one iota how friendly, nor unfriendly, one or some are, this has absolutely no bearing at all on whether the truth or not of whatever they are saying.

If you are led to 'join in', for friendship, then consider why you have none or few friends now.

3. They got each other's back. If the skeptic raises a heavy philosophical question and one from the group struggles to answer it (becuz it's way the fuck over his head), the others will try to come to his rescue.

But if any question, whether it is a so called 'heavy philosophical question' or not, can not be just answered simply and easily, then that one or those people just still have some more to learn, and understand.

Trying to 'come to the rescue', as you call it, does not actually answer the question.

So, again, how exactly does a group supposedly immediately disarm a skeptic of their suspicion?

A true 'skeptic', by definition, will always be and remain a 'skeptic'.

[Iwannaplato]

This thread's just trolling.
He's angling to mock
But this pidgeonholing
won't gather no flock.

[nemos]

Conversation in a fishing tackle shop:

buyer: What kind of fish is this spoon lure intended for? And this one?
But this beautiful one with lights and decorations?

some random benefactor: it is not intended to catch fish, but buyers?

[promethean75]

I want nothing to do with whatever you're going though right now, Age, and i refuse to talk to u until u start using caps lock again.

It's like I don't even know u anymore.

[Peter Kropotkin]

I want nothing to do with whatever you're going though right now, Age, and i refuse to talk to u until u start using caps lock again.

It's like I don't even know u anymore.

K: are you high? I can actually read age now... major, MAJOR improvement...

Kropotkin

[Iwannaplato]

Also, if I choose to neither believe nor disbelieve anything, then this makes it impossible to be believe something four people believe instead of one person.

Oopsie, doopsie...Age wrote one of his beliefs here.

[Age]

Also, if I choose to neither believe nor disbelieve anything, then this makes it impossible to be believe something four people believe instead of one person.

Oopsie, doopsie...Age wrote one of his beliefs here.

What we clearly now have here is another prime example of how a strongly held onto distorted belief keeps one absolutely blind, deaf, and thus totally closed off from being able to obtain and see what the actual and irrefutable Truth is exactly.

But this Truth, which I have been pointing out, revealing, showing, and proving absolutely True, with the help of these 'believers' here, back then, as can be CLEARLY SEEN here, once again, was never hitherto seen and understood by 'these olden day peoples'. They were so shut off by their own believing that they were to closed, and thus were, literally, just to stupid to just see and comprehend the actual Truth of all things here.

As this one is proving absolutely, once again here.

[Age]

I want nothing to do with whatever you're going though right now, Age, and i refuse to talk to u until u start using caps lock again.

It's like I don't even know u anymore.

Once again, what I set out to prove True, this one has just done, for me.

See it did not matter what format one used, these people, back then, would only see, read, hear what they wanted to see, read, and here. Again, this was mostly due to their pre-existing beliefs and assumptions, which they had not yet learned how to recognise and notice.

[Age]

Also, if I choose to neither believe nor disbelieve anything, then this makes it impossible to be believe something four people believe instead of one person.

Oopsie, doopsie...Age wrote one of his beliefs here.

"iwannaplato" here appears to not yet know the actual difference between 'belief' and 'know', but the very reason why is pretty well obvious and very straightforward.

[Iwannaplato]

If Age makes assertions, they are not beliefs.
If other people make assertions, they are beliefs and are a sign of the assumptions and problems of time this was being written.

[Veritas Aequitas]

Fishers tend to catch more fish when they fish with a net
certain religions recommend "fishing" with nets (groups)
of course this is a proven anti-reel-ism approach
-Imp

I have often used the "catching fishes with net" metaphor.

The critical point is the "net" used must not be full of holes so that there is absolutely no room for the fishes [those that cannot jump into the air] to escape when the enclosed net is pulled in and closed. see below.

There is where I roped [netted] in all subjects [from science to arts to theology] under a common denominator [objectivity is intersubjectivity] within a human-based FSK.
Most people argued with "loads of holes in their net" e.g. if they do not rope in say theology, theists will escape to say non-theists has no say in their beliefs, thus theists will continue to believe to the extent of continually killing non-theists because their [you cannot touch or argue about] God commanded so.

[Age]

If Age makes assertions, they are not beliefs.

Correct.

Finally, some might say.

If other people make assertions, they are beliefs and are a sign of the assumptions and problems of time this was being written.

As I have shown multiple times already, I ask questions, for clarity, like for example, 'Do you think or believe ....'?

Have you not yet noticed this?

And, I have never ever said nor even thought an assertion made by another was a belief, unless, of course, they presented 'it' as a belief.

Also, beliefs, well to me anyway, are not a sign of the assumptions and problems, of the times when this was being written. Why would you presume and/or say such a thing?

I will, once again, clarity is sought after, and obtained and gained, before presumptions, assumptions, and/or beliefs are shared, and spread.

This way one can not and will not be so Wrong as they are, as often as they are.