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Unknowing

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:50 pm
by Eodnhoj7
The mind that is unknowing has few to no barriers, I know this thus a contradiction occurs thus I know nothing. Knowing and unknowing are neither one nor many. This is unknowing and I am not sure that I even know this.

Re: Unknowing

Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2023 4:24 pm
by Iwannaplato
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:50 pm The mind that is unknowing has few to no barriers, I know this thus a contradiction occurs thus I know nothing. Knowing and unknowing are neither one nor many. This is unknowing and I am not sure that I even know this.
It seems wise to be wary of someone who regularly tells people what is the case while saying they know nothing.

Re: Unknowing

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:46 pm
by Eodnhoj7
Iwannaplato wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 4:24 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:50 pm The mind that is unknowing has few to no barriers, I know this thus a contradiction occurs thus I know nothing. Knowing and unknowing are neither one nor many. This is unknowing and I am not sure that I even know this.
It seems wise to be wary of someone who regularly tells people what is the case while saying they know nothing.
Nothingness is inseparable from all things as there are no distinction within nothingness that allows nothingness to be separate from a thing.

Re: Unknowing

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 8:42 pm
by Iwannaplato
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:46 pm
Iwannaplato wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 4:24 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:50 pm The mind that is unknowing has few to no barriers, I know this thus a contradiction occurs thus I know nothing. Knowing and unknowing are neither one nor many. This is unknowing and I am not sure that I even know this.
It seems wise to be wary of someone who regularly tells people what is the case while saying they know nothing.
Nothingness is inseparable from all things as there are no distinction within nothingness that allows nothingness to be separate from a thing.
There is no nothingness.

Re: Unknowing

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 8:58 pm
by Constantine
The Cloude of Unknowyng

Re: Unknowing

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:22 pm
by Eodnhoj7
Iwannaplato wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 8:42 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:46 pm
Iwannaplato wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 4:24 pm
It seems wise to be wary of someone who regularly tells people what is the case while saying they know nothing.
Nothingness is inseparable from all things as there are no distinction within nothingness that allows nothingness to be separate from a thing.
There is no nothingness.
That is the same as saying "there is only being". However considering there are no distinctions within nothingness nothingness cannot be separate from being as there are no distinctions that allow for seperation.

Nothingness cannot be proven as to prove nothingness would be to prove nothing, thus no proof.
Nothingness cannot be disproven as to disprove nothingness would be to disprove nothing, thus no disproof.

Re: Unknowing

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:47 pm
by Iwannaplato
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:22 pm
Iwannaplato wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 8:42 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:46 pm

Nothingness is inseparable from all things as there are no distinction within nothingness that allows nothingness to be separate from a thing.
There is no nothingness.
That is the same as saying "there is only being". However considering there are no distinctions within nothingness nothingness cannot be separate from being as there are no distinctions that allow for seperation.

Nothingness cannot be proven as to prove nothingness would be to prove nothing, thus no proof.
Nothingness cannot be disproven as to disprove nothingness would be to disprove nothing, thus no disproof.
More stuff that's not nothing.

Re: Unknowing

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 12:44 am
by attofishpi
Dontaskme wrote:.. :idea: ..
What do you think? 8)

Re: Unknowing

Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 7:56 pm
by Eodnhoj7
Iwannaplato wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:47 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:22 pm
Iwannaplato wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 8:42 pm
There is no nothingness.
That is the same as saying "there is only being". However considering there are no distinctions within nothingness nothingness cannot be separate from being as there are no distinctions that allow for seperation.

Nothingness cannot be proven as to prove nothingness would be to prove nothing, thus no proof.
Nothingness cannot be disproven as to disprove nothingness would be to disprove nothing, thus no disproof.
More stuff that's not nothing.
Stuff being nothing is a paradox.

Re: Unknowing

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2023 2:47 am
by Constantine
You can partially resolve that paradox by reducing nothing by half.

Re: Unknowing

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2023 7:30 am
by Iwannaplato
Constantine wrote: Sat Jul 22, 2023 2:47 am You can partially resolve that paradox by reducing nothing by half.
No, I prefer being told what is the case by someone claiming to know nothing.
The irony creates a nice frisson.

Re: Unknowing

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2023 11:02 am
by Constantine
Oh it does not.

Re: Unknowing

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2023 1:28 pm
by Iwannaplato
Constantine wrote: Sat Jul 22, 2023 11:02 am Oh it does not.
You're right :cry:. No frisson. Being told what is the case from someone who claims to not know anything and that all learning is pointless comes off self-contradictory which is much less fun to say and further he ignores that. So, actually I was being ironic when I said there was frisson. A private sense of humor is often problematic.

Re: Unknowing

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2023 1:30 pm
by Constantine
It would of implied irony predates the big bang.

Re: Unknowing

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2023 1:31 pm
by Iwannaplato
Constantine wrote: Sat Jul 22, 2023 1:30 pm It would of implied irony predates the big bang.
If you're an antirealist like Veritas, it must. And by 'like Veritas' I mean, having his kind of antirealism.