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Kleptocracy
The great mistake of much religion is in portraying ethics in terms of purely personal relationships. If everyone is ‘nice’ we may still have a world in ruin or as a servile state. Religion that portrays ethics as based on outright obedience to ‘god’ and authority, promotes the servile state. It is the form of society at various levels that defines ethics. A society based on pure individualism must logically be egalitarian but not altruistic, or even socially responsible to any degree above the level of peaceful coexistence. Altruist society is thereby socially responsible and egalitarian and that also implies a structured world based on local communities and some form of cooperative altruist nations. The United Nations includes all forms of society and cannot logically do anything other than try to keep the peace. The world we have tends to be binary and sets democracy against tyranny but the term that might best be employed is Kleptocracy. Today tyranny appears to be state kleptocracy as in Russia and China. The ‘democracies’ are in danger of so promoting individualism as to fall into the trap of ‘private kleptocracy’ with corporations or individuals owning everything of significance, and so owning us. A the most simple level, altruist democracy must be nationally holistic, and also locally holistic. The present fad for corporations to buy up land for carbon offsetting is the opposite of that and promotes Kleptocracy. Those who wish to believe in ‘God’ must needs portray him in one of three forms.
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God is in all forms.
It is the One.

And you can be aware of this when you are gripped by compassion for this aching world.

Then, it is as if you are at the origin of all things...

This compassion reveals who you are.
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LMAO.

Incurably naive.
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Here, let me ask a simple and obvious question.

How is it possible, for a nation of hard working people, who work all of their life, to produce a county in a very deep valley of debt?

So much so, your children, their children, and their children's children will be forced to pay for the corruption in this government you enjoy?

Are you really that simple not to see the gross contradictions in your words?
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Let me ask you another simple question.
Define the word Taxation.

It is either a relative, or a correlative. It cannot be both.

Saying that a government has a right to tax your property: an absolute. Now, is recursive taxation on the very same thing taxation, or are they claiming to actually own it?

They say one thing, and then another, meaning they can use a word anyway they want, because people are too stupid to know anything about words at all.

Is recursive taxation different from the word rent?
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RWStanding wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 7:25 am Those who wish to believe in ‘God’ must needs portray him in one of three forms.
Really, you very provably do not know what the word God means. Biblically it is a metaphor, it is not an anthropomorphism. You have either head of Nomocracy, or the form of Government spoken of in the Bible. Nomocracy is only possible in a literate society. Law, No man shall in that day rule over other men, but all shall of one accord . . . .
Nomocracy was introduced in the Bible a very long time ago, yet, I have Wordweb Pro, which has 8 dictionaries and only two of them recognize the word. You can find it on the net, but it is not the Nomcracy given in the Bible.
The rational is this. The body affords information to a mind, a mind processes that information using the principles of Language which are functionally resident in the mind as grammar systems. The processing is fed back to the body to construct human behavior. Even Confucius had it right, as well as Plato.

Every grammar is effected by binary recursion, every one, all mathematics geometry, etc. It is wholly impossible, as Socrates intimates in Xenophon for a literate society to disagree about anything, and every thing can be demonstrated and proved by the resulting Grammar Matrix.

This is grammatical fact, and the Bible calls it judgment. Judgment with your body, perception, mind, processing, and soul, your behavior.
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Now, I can go one and on parsing the errant concepts you defer to.

But it boils down to biological fact. What is being evolved in man which will guide all human behavior, and is it even possible for grammar systems by which is the foundation of judgment, i.e. binary to produce a nonbinary result? The answer is no. Socrates knew it, Plato tried to teach it, and it is the Biblical definition of Nomocracy.
No life support system has a vote as to what determines its out put, not one. However, the mind of man, when functional, will be the most powerful life support system possible, and when it is, Nomocracy, government in accordance with Law, produced by functional grammar systems, will be what rules all mankind.
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I am all wound up not, damn.

Take for example that it is fair to tax an individual. That is a noun.
But, people do not even ponder the distinction between noun and verb.
So, the government says factually, they can tax individual's behavior, i.e. now the individual is no longer an individual, but a verb, every behavior can be taxed and taxed recursively, taxed to death and it is and has been being done from the start.
Which is it, you can tax an individual, or you can tax as many parts of an individual you can slice and dice them?


So, it ends up too, recursive government, this department that department the state the federal, yada, yada, yada, we do not have one government, we have as many as they can toss at us. And all of them not even aware of what the other is doing.

This is not a government, this is a joke.

So people ask what is the point of education? and then bitch when they are too stupid to figure the scams out, condemning their own children and children's children?

I do not think that they have a right to bitch, because the illiterate cannot judge right from wrong.

People on this forum bitch at me, I don't understand this, I don't understand that. Why in the phuck have they not asked their government to account for their words?

You only have two choices, learn to do your biologically given job, or every parasite around you will suck your life dry.

Why do you think Christ said, do not go looking for the savior, for you will see him when you see the buzzards over your own head?
A functional mind is you as a life support system, judgment is the salvation of mankind, not a man, as you were told.

Now, you may think it very clever that new names are being generated to give to governments, when there is factually only a binary distinction, between learning judgment, or having some dumb-ass dick tell you what it is, government is factually biologically defined, if it is not within, it will certain come from without and its name will not be government at all, not an ocracy at all just a simply crazy.


Okay, I am over my fit now, pardon the intrusion.
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