All the world's problems

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All the world's problems

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All the world's problems amount to one thing; the wrong people are in charge for the wrong reasons.
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Advocate wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:51 pm All the world's problems amount to one thing;
ALL of the, so called, "world's problems", can be RESOLVED with just One solitary VERY SIMPLE ANSWER, which by the way holds THEE SOLUTION, [to ALL of the "world's problems".

BUT, in the days of when this is being written, most human beings are NOT YET READY for this RESOLUTION.
Advocate wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:51 pm the wrong people are in charge for the wrong reasons.
The, so called, "wrong people", who are actually 'in charge', are just ALL of 'you', adult human beings.

And, most of what 'you' ALL do is for the VERY WRONG REASONS.

But, in the days of when this is being written, 'you' ALL have deceived "yourselves" so much, 'you' have "justified", to "yourselves" only, that most of what you do is NOT WRONG, nor done for the WRONG REASONS.
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Advocate wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:51 pm All the world's problems amount to one thing; the wrong people are in charge for the wrong reasons.
I’m not sure this is true. I might be persuaded if a few diverse problems could be explained in terms of wrong people and wrong reasons.

How about earthquakes in Chile and COVID in Somalia?
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he's got more and better stuff, let's form a government to steal from him

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[quote=commonsense post_id=484667 time=1607883450 user_id=14610]
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All the world's problems amount to one thing; the wrong people are in charge for the wrong reasons.
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I’m not sure this is true. I might be persuaded if a few diverse problems could be explained in terms of wrong people and wrong reasons.

How about earthquakes in Chile and COVID in Somalia?
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The right people in charge wouldn't let people live in those areas or fuck up the climate to cause mega-storms. They'd prioritize vaccines and only restrict people's freedom in truly necessary ways. etc.
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Advocate wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:51 pm All the world's problems amount to one thing; the wrong people are in charge for the wrong reasons.
Pretty much. We set 'em up, we knock 'em down - but not before they've done their share of harm.
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Impenitent wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:32 pm he's got more and better stuff, let's form a government to steal from him

-Imp
he's got our stuff, let's form a government to take it back from him
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[quote=Skip post_id=484678 time=1607887022 user_id=6255]
[quote=Impenitent post_id=484669 time=1607884336 user_id=3944]
he's got more and better stuff, let's form a government to steal from him

-Imp
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he's got our stuff, let's form a government to take it back from him
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They've got my stuff, I'm going to assert my sovereignty to myself.
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Advocate wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:13 pm
commonsense wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:17 pm
Advocate wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:51 pm All the world's problems amount to one thing; the wrong people are in charge for the wrong reasons.
I’m not sure this is true. I might be persuaded if a few diverse problems could be explained in terms of wrong people and wrong reasons.

How about earthquakes in Chile and COVID in Somalia?
The right people in charge wouldn't let people live in those areas or fuck up the climate to cause mega-storms. They'd prioritize vaccines and only restrict people's freedom in truly necessary ways. etc.
So I would agree that the solution lies in getting the right people in charge for the right reasons.

That might be possible to do in utopia.
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Skip wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:17 pm
Impenitent wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:32 pm he's got more and better stuff, let's form a government to steal from him

-Imp
he's got our stuff, let's form a government to take it back from him
it is your manifest destiny after all...

history never repeats

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Advocate wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:33 pm They've got my stuff, I'm going to assert my sovereignty to myself.
Assert away. Let's see how sovereign you are when they cut off your heat and light.
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commonsense wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:24 pm
Advocate wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:13 pm
commonsense wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:17 pm

I’m not sure this is true. I might be persuaded if a few diverse problems could be explained in terms of wrong people and wrong reasons.

How about earthquakes in Chile and COVID in Somalia?
The right people in charge wouldn't let people live in those areas or fuck up the climate to cause mega-storms. They'd prioritize vaccines and only restrict people's freedom in truly necessary ways. etc.
So I would agree that the solution lies in getting the right people in charge for the right reasons.

That might be possible to do in utopia.
To do this at all, we must decide what defines “in charge”. But how could we do that outside of utopia?

Who decides who the right people are and what the right reasons are? A majority of the people affected?

That sounds to me like a good way to actualize world problems. The right ones to be put in charge aren’t always the ones who are elected.

Should the people of the world elect one person who appoints the right people to be in charge for the right reasons? But what if the person elected is popular yet still not the right person to be in charge?

I’ll say again: I see no practical way to solve the world’s problems. It is my conclusion that the real world will never be without problems (duh).
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[quote=Skip post_id=484847 time=1607973803 user_id=6255]
[quote=Advocate post_id=484679 time=1607888021 user_id=15238]
They've got my stuff, I'm going to assert my sovereignty to myself.
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Assert away. Let's see how sovereign you are when they cut off your heat and light.
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I'll make my own heat and light by burning the corpses of plutocrats.
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Advocate wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:01 pm
Skip wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:23 pm
Advocate wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:33 pm They've got my stuff, I'm going to assert my sovereignty to myself.
Assert away. Let's see how sovereign you are when they cut off your heat and light.
I'll make my own heat and light by burning the corpses of plutocrats.
O-I-C! One is talking about reality and the other in terms of fantasy. Try to guess which one is which.

The harder question about solving the world’s problems is in the realm of reality rather than in fantasy.

If we want to solve problems like what to do about heat and light in a fantasy world, all we need do is stipulate that there are no problems in that world.

Had this been clear at the outset, the OP would also have been the only post. It would have been fruitless to ponder.
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One would think that a common goal or a common enemy would unite the nations of the world, resulting in better solutions for the entire planet.

Something like an alien species invading Earth ought to do the trick, if it were so.

But, alas, the global pandemic underscores the dismal outlook for cooperation toward solutions to the world’s problems.
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