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What do you think of this man synthesis?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcR2fw7g2uI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7rXlbHtcqM

no takers?

Well, I can't deny some disappointment ...cause we always have to stay very serious don't we

But in case anyone was wandering around this,

One can find it in the description of the video itself:

it's the work of Matthew Silver, taking his role up as a clown, trickster and village idiot to parody excessive seriousness by playing with taboos, rules, and social norms. His inspiration comes from his heart, performs for smiles and laughter, loosening people's armor, and opening up a portal for imagination, creativity and love.

We are all imbued with life, spirit, creativity, imagination that in one creative forum or another needs to be expressed, needs to be shared, needs to be felt by others, some of us are writers, some of us musicians, some painters, some philosophers, some dancers, there are so many ways in expressing our gifted nature, and every time we do, we bring a little more love into the world. So find what it is that lightens your spirit by expressing your love, go beyond and challenge the fear which may hold you back from sharing whats inside, and prepare to be a fool for love.

And personally I think he did, doing a great job at pointing all this out, in a growing narrow minded world, that is almost ready to go to war, and for what?

NEW wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:54 am no takers?

Well, I can't deny some disappointment ...cause we always have to stay very serious don't we

I get the role he was playing in that video. It's like every action is a show we put on for our own amusement, to entertain ourself. Where attention is centre stage, and what is shown is seen to be just a meta4 that awakens us to our true nature which is egoless unlimited freedom to be in every moment.

Babies and Children play that natural role without any effort or pretentious act...but then the pretence becomes more serious as we become self aware, conscious of ourselves...and is why the Self talking to self....tells itself....Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

The child within never leaves us. We leave the child...when a more SERIOUS acting role seemingly takes over centre stage for the reasons that are obvious.
If we as self aware conscious actors did not act out our roles on this stage called the play of life without any serious intent... no one would take this play seriously, no one would bother to turn up to watch the show.

In the same context, you wouldn't go to the Theatre to watch a live staged play like the ''Lion King''..if the actors on the stage did not take their roles in the play very seriously...in fact you'd probably walk out of the Theatre demanding your money back.

Am I the role I am playing OR Am I playing the role


... if you get my drift!

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Hihi, I think I do,

A bit like the story of the "Brahman", playing that he isn't ...

But in general, and a bit more "serious" ( ) sidenote ... (I hope I'm wrong)

I'm sensing in general, an evolution towards more narrow mindedness, enclosures within ego's and defensive reactions/polarization.
This while more playfulness can help to bridge the gap a bit, towards more tolerance towards each other.

Or as our good old Alan said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQFcNFAzXGo

NEW wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 12:27 pm Hihi, I think I do,

A bit like the story of the "Brahman", playing that he isn't ...

You got it ..Advaita Vedanta the end of knowledge.

Back to the garden!

NEW wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 12:27 pm

But in general, and a bit more "serious" ( ) sidenote ... (I hope I'm wrong)

I'm sensing in general, an evolution towards more narrow mindedness, enclosures within ego's and defensive reactions/polarization.
This while more playfulness can help to bridge the gap a bit, towards more tolerance towards each other.

Or as our good old Alan said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQFcNFAzXGo

I get that, and so agree.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:59 pm

NEW wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 12:27 pm

But in general, and a bit more "serious" ( ) sidenote ... (I hope I'm wrong)

I'm sensing in general, an evolution towards more narrow mindedness, enclosures within ego's and defensive reactions/polarization.
This while more playfulness can help to bridge the gap a bit, towards more tolerance towards each other.

Or as our good old Alan said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQFcNFAzXGo

I get that, and so agree.

So it isn't just my imagination?

I often questioned this statement from my personal evolution, and growing from young to older, and that it's just a part of that personal evolution.

But ever since around 2000 (and the internet bubble more exactly) I have seen the evolution of this happening, from individual people growing more bitter, closed minded, towards a general flow of polarization.

I also noticed more and more the absence of dealing with issues, merely being symptom treated then inclusively handled, kicking the can forwards sort of speaking.
...and before you know it, a mount Everest wall of issues can be found on your path.

the tree example:



I often describe it also with a full grown tree, with lots of branches for several reasons (stability, diversity, even spread of weight, sunshine capture, ...) .
Every part of that tree needs a juices from the main tree trunk, in order to survive.
And what is happening more and more is that those side branches are cut, in order to have more juices run trough the main trunk,
But unfortunately, generating a very unstable tree this way, that isn't ready to survive a storm.

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What I also figured out, unfortunately, is when you see such patterns, evolution, and you try something to prevent this from happening, or attempting to actually deal with an issue, you are being cut, put on a side track, seen as a problem yourself by the same fellow man you try to help .

Like such dynamic has it's own force, and speeding up trough it's own weight/dynamics, with people, fully unaware in what they are participating in...
just like some pendulum on a clock ...



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So what can one do exactly? Nothing much it seems, except perhaps, to follow your own path, be that little strange acting pebble doing it's part.
And although it might not change the course very much, at least you have peace of mind, knowing you did your part, knowing you have listened to your heart.

even if it's "just" shouting: mmkaaaakkkk pffffrrrttt

NEW wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:53 am So what can one do exactly? Nothing much it seems, except perhaps, to follow your own path, be that little strange acting pebble doing it's part.
And although it might not change the course very much, at least you have peace of mind, knowing you did your part, knowing you have listened to your heart.

even if it's "just" shouting: mmkaaaakkkk pffffrrrttt

There is nothing we can do to change the world or the lives of others. As others are each living their own unique path, which is their birth right and none of our business, although the destination is the same place for everyone, which is homelessness their only home, here now, no place, nowhere, where it's always been, and always has been, where nothing ever changed. Home is infinity for eternity right here and now.

As for the character DAM...I'm happy to mingle and hang out with others and enjoy their company and their uniqueness of being, just as long as they in turn respect my love for absolute solitude of mind...in other words, I am very much in their world, but no longer of it.

“If you want to awaken all of humanity, then awaken all of yourself. If you want to eliminate the suffering in the world, then eliminate all that is dark and negative in yourself. Truly, the greatest gift you have to give is that of your own self-transformation.”

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lol true, in some cosmic, ideal sense, ...

but then why is everyone acting like slaves upon certain dynamics?

You may be right in some way, but general conditioning factors bring per-configured general behavior patterns accordingly...

And as mentioned before, I have got the moral obligation also, and haven't got the luxury to be a passive non dualist full time.

Although chances are great that these signs are put, again in the bin, and only considered relevant later on (as most of the time, always when it's too late), I simply have a moral compass to answer too as well to address some troubling' signs ahead.

NEW wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:16 am lol true, in some cosmic, ideal sense, ...

but then why is everyone acting like slaves upon certain dynamics?

IMO, people are slaves to what their mind dictates in the moment, being drawn into whatever one is concentrating or giving their attention to whether it be negative or positive thoughts.

Be the master, not the slave, of your mind. It has no power other than that which you give it.

NEW wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:16 amAnd as mentioned before, I have got the moral obligation also, and haven't got the luxury to be a passive non dualist full time.

I personally never gave a thought to the nondualist part of my being as to being a luxury, but then we're all different in how we think about things.
For me, it's as though i was born to question the authenticity of myself, and that happened really early on in my life, so for me, being a nondual thinker was a natural part of my life journey, in the innate desire to want to discover the truth about myself.

I was able to self inquire quite effortlessly and at the same time raise a family and hold down a full time job, you know, just doing all those humans things that humans do everyday in order to survive and have a life. So being a nondualist just came as one of the many other jobs I was doing, in fact I was very good at being a multi-tasker, but that's just how this character played out, so I have never really known my life to be any other way or be any different than how it played out as i describe it to you.

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thanks, also here for your feedback,

as mentioned in that other post,

I did this small thought experiment around "acceptance" and going too deep in it, like I mentioned before, generates for instance too much passivity:
and out came my moral compass simply automatically, like a spring, rejecting going too deep in it.

I wasn't blaming you for anything,
quite the contrary, very glad you are here to offer your unique insights

NEW wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 4:16 pm thanks, also here for your feedback,

as mentioned in that other post,

I did this small thought experiment around "acceptance" and going too deep in it, like I mentioned before, generates for instance too much passivity:
and out came my moral compass simply automatically, like a spring, rejecting going too deep in it.

I wasn't blaming you for anything,
quite the contrary, very glad you are here to offer your unique insights

I understand.

When you said you haven't got the luxury to be a passive non dualist full time.

I was prompted to show you my experience of the nondual self as being part of the doing that is already being done here.

You already are the nondual self, it requires no effort on your part, it's all part of the same one doingless doing.

thanks for Y(our) unique insights

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 9:42 am

NEW wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:16 am lol true, in some cosmic, ideal sense, ...

but then why is everyone acting like slaves upon certain dynamics?

IMO, people are slaves to what their mind dictates in the moment, being drawn into whatever one is concentrating or giving their attention to whether it be negative or positive thoughts.

Be the master, not the slave, of your mind. It has no power other than that which you give it.

NEW wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:16 amAnd as mentioned before, I have got the moral obligation also, and haven't got the luxury to be a passive non dualist full time.

I personally never gave a thought to the nondualist part of my being as to being a luxury, but then we're all different in how we think about things.
For me, it's as though i was born to question the authenticity of myself, and that happened really early on in my life, so for me, being a nondual thinker was a natural part of my life journey, in the innate desire to want to discover the truth about myself.

I was able to self inquire quite effortlessly and at the same time raise a family and hold down a full time job, you know, just doing all those humans things that humans do everyday in order to survive and have a life. So being a nondualist just came as one of the many other jobs I was doing, in fact I was very good at being a multi-tasker, but that's just how this character played out, so I have never really known my life to be any other way or be any different than how it played out as i describe it to you.

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Well, here it is, dam, an apology if needed.

I stumbled upon this little video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxUkIZfnfTc),

and couldn't stop thinking around what you said here (and in the other post).
And most of all, the peace you found, that I could have misinterpreted/accused as passive.

You have my sincere apologies, if this was the impression I gave you, and that little video proved me wrong, also

cause you are right also, what ever you do, you can't really fix anything, but yourself, hopefully inspire others, and find peace with that.
And that peace, almost everyone can find,
and feel with you, in your posts.

Well what can I say, ty for giving some of it to me trough these discussions