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Well, does, eg, Magnus Carlsen meerly believe himself superior, or does he win more at chess than the rest of humanity? And decisively overmatch almost everyone.nothing wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:53 am It takes a "believer" to ever "believe" themselves superior to another
and/or others are inferior to themselves. The "superiority" factor is "belief".
"BELIEVER vs. UNBELIEVER"
Where are all the Nazis?
On the side of the "believers".
Who identifies themselves as "believers"?
There you will find your superiority/supremacism/Nazism.
Their game? To scapegoat it onto any/all others. That's their religion.
Accuse others of what they are themselves guilty of,
such to wash the blood from their own hands, even at the expense of others.
Christ = sacrifice of self for the sake of others
anti-Christ = sacrifice of others for the sake of self
Magnus Carlsen employs a conscious discipline, as motivated by his passion for the game of chess.TheVisionofEr wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:39 am Well, does, eg, Magnus Carlsen meerly believe himself superior, or does he win more at chess than the rest of humanity? And decisively overmatch almost everyone.
The accuser is the accused.TheVisionofEr wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:39 am You, or if you wish, the content of your very pathetic comments, stray outrageously from reality into the kukoovolksheim (the land of the cloud kooko birds.)
Stupidity also despises and attacks... perhaps even more so.TheVisionofEr wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:59 am Thus, to be superior, not to say supreme, is to attack the common by a spontaneous characteristic or drive.
As someone who can think I must confess to somewhat despising you. As is the usual case in all superiority here on the earth.nothing wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:02 amMagnus Carlsen employs a conscious discipline, as motivated by his passion for the game of chess.TheVisionofEr wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:39 am Well, does, eg, Magnus Carlsen meerly believe himself superior, or does he win more at chess than the rest of humanity? And decisively overmatch almost everyone.
He need not "believe" he is better than most, he may know this outright, thus not requiring "belief".
The accuser is the accused.TheVisionofEr wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:39 am You, or if you wish, the content of your very pathetic comments, stray outrageously from reality into the kukoovolksheim (the land of the cloud kooko birds.)
You draw from your own nature - try your own comments as pathetic and as removed from reality
thus should anyone have an idea as to what 'kukoovolksheim' is... it should be you, as the in-dweller of it.
That you encounter this nature upon others' words stirring it, such to attribute it to others, as if owing to others,
is precisely the constituency of the "pathetic" pathology to which you are yourself succumb.
What else you got buried down there?
Well, properly, I would say that despising excludes attacking. Attacking implies some regard.Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:37 pmStupidity also despises and attacks... perhaps even more so.TheVisionofEr wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:59 am Thus, to be superior, not to say supreme, is to attack the common by a spontaneous characteristic or drive.
Do you just make shit up as you go? Are you aware you're doing that?TheVisionofEr wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:14 amWell, properly, I would say that despising excludes attacking. Attacking implies some regard.Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:37 pmStupidity also despises and attacks... perhaps even more so.TheVisionofEr wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:59 am Thus, to be superior, not to say supreme, is to attack the common by a spontaneous characteristic or drive.
Guy seems to have dedicated his life to formally studying philosophy, but in the end 95%+ of that knowledge is pretty worthless. Not even his fancy way of speaking, or all the drama he came up with, can change that. Must be pretty maddening, huhLacewing wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:39 amDo you just make shit up as you go? Are you aware you're doing that?TheVisionofEr wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:14 amWell, properly, I would say that despising excludes attacking. Attacking implies some regard.
Liar. Not 'somewhat' - you can't stand me.TheVisionofEr wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:10 am As someone who can think I must confess to somewhat despising you. As is the usual case in all superiority here on the earth.
i. Nazism begins with Muhammad killing "unbelievers" for not "believing" he was receiving messages from an angelTheVisionofEr wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:10 am Interestingly, the Nazis didn't make any official claim to superiority, not to say supramacy. Did you ever study their legal code? Alles was dem Volke nützt, ist Recht, alles was ihm schadet ist Unrecht. This says that what is of use to the German people is good. And what slows their roll, bad.
Correct judgements begins with correct view. If you can't see things for what they are ie. deny facts about reality,TheVisionofEr wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:10 am By the way, the ability to think and make correct judgments is not a matter of vague guessing. Or "belief," so-called.
All knowledge through a process of imprinting, hence assumption, regresses to belief.nothing wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:27 pmLiar. Not 'somewhat' - you can't stand me.TheVisionofEr wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:10 am As someone who can think I must confess to somewhat despising you. As is the usual case in all superiority here on the earth.
People who worship lies hate the truth
thus people who both hold and speak truth
above all else.
i. Nazism begins with Muhammad killing "unbelievers" for not "believing" he was receiving messages from an angelTheVisionofEr wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:10 am Interestingly, the Nazis didn't make any official claim to superiority, not to say supramacy. Did you ever study their legal code? Alles was dem Volke nützt, ist Recht, alles was ihm schadet ist Unrecht. This says that what is of use to the German people is good. And what slows their roll, bad.
ii. Muhammadans, like the Jews before them, believe a single book is the most "supreme" document on the face of the planet,
not to mention that the idol of Islam Muhammad (who was involved in pedophilia, polygamy, warlordry and genocide) is taken to be
the greatest role model for all of humanity, for all of time.
iii. Identity politics begins with "believer vs. unbeliever" viz. "us vs. them" and perpetual conflict, blaming and scapegoating.
iv. ~1.6B Muhammadans are being lied to by their own leaders re: where the original qibla was and/or where Islam actually began.
v. The expression you quoted is 100% Nazi supremacism "us good them bad" the same "believer vs. unbeliever" root.
I know not to "believe" that you can think....
Correct judgements begins with correct view. If you can't see things for what they are ie. deny facts about reality,TheVisionofEr wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:10 am By the way, the ability to think and make correct judgments is not a matter of vague guessing. Or "belief," so-called.
your "thinking" will have nothing to do with the reality as such.
The ability to think is not a mental process, it is a conscious one: to inquire.
Who? What? Where? Why? When? How? If?
Science implies a faculty of inquiry.
Conscience implies the same: only as (or applied to) the self 'con'.
Choice includes what questions to ask, what beliefs to try/test/falsify etc.
Consciousness is the ongoing state of this.
"Belief" is not a conscious process. "I believe... " is the same as saying "I don't know..." because that is what "belief" means: unknown to any degree of certainly, however taken as and/or acted upon as 'true'. What happens if a person "believes" something that is not true, such as... they are in possession of the most supreme document on the face of the planet esp. that instructs them to kill unbelievers until there are none left?
The only thing they have is to point their fingers elsewhere and blame others. Adam did the same to Eve: he could not account for his own actions, hence the scapegoating religions of the world, including Islam which does this religiously, are nothing but the fall from humanity into barbarism, so it is reflected in their religion of cutting heads off. All because they can't stand people who actually use them, as they never learned to use their own, given they call themselves "believers" which, for reasons above, is not a conscious process.
That's not knowledge.
1. Knowledge is acknowledgement of fact.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:56 pm 1. Knowledge is fact.
2. Fact is individuation.
3. Individuation is particulation.
4. Particulation is analysis.
5. Analysis is pattern production.
6. Pattern production is awareness.
7. Awareness is assumption.
8. Assumption is imprinting.
9. Imprinting is acceptance.
10. Acceptance is belief.
11. Knowledge is belief.
It is not possible to have an all knowing state, it is only possible to believe all things as having different grades of truth hence existing as truths. This belief is the acceptance of a phenomenon for what it is as existing.nothing wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:48 pmThat's not knowledge.
0. Loopis is debilitating.1. Knowledge is acknowledgement of fact.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:56 pm 1. Knowledge is fact.
2. Fact is individuation.
3. Individuation is particulation.
4. Particulation is analysis.
5. Analysis is pattern production.
6. Pattern production is awareness.
7. Awareness is assumption.
8. Assumption is imprinting.
9. Imprinting is acceptance.
10. Acceptance is belief.
11. Knowledge is belief.
All knowledge negates all belief-based ignorance(s) ad infinitum.
That is a part of the truth:
2. Fact is individuation.
3. Individuation is particulation.
4. Particulation is analysis.
5. Analysis is pattern production.
6. Pattern production is awareness.
7. Awareness is assumption.
8. Assumption is imprinting.
9. Imprinting is acceptance.
10. Acceptance is belief.
11. Knowledge is belief.
All knowing is by way of consciously trying all belief, but
not all belief is by way of consciously trying to know all.
All knowledge implies no presence of any/all belief-based ignorance(s).
All belief implies implies no presence of any/all knowledge.
The nature of knowledge, as imprinting, is a nature of assumption. Assumption is acceptance and acceptance is belief. The nature of belief, through knowledge, is an acceptance of patterns. Knowledge, as the replication of patterns through analysis, is justified belief with this justification being the replication of the very same patterns which form it.
Well, on whatever planet you are on, I hope you are happy.Lacewing wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:39 amDo you just make shit up as you go? Are you aware you're doing that?TheVisionofEr wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:14 amWell, properly, I would say that despising excludes attacking. Attacking implies some regard.