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Is It Possible That This Forum Can Be Used As A Platform To Debate AI?

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:08 pm
by Eodnhoj7
?

Re: Is It Possible That This Forum Can Be Used As A Platform To Debate AI?

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:25 pm
by henry quirk
sure

the robot overlords are welcome

Re: Is It Possible That This Forum Can Be Used As A Platform To Debate AI?

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:01 am
by Eodnhoj7
henry quirk wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:25 pm sure

the robot overlords are welcome
Yeah, I want a challenge...veritas is getting boring.

I want to know who is going to rape my future, I want flowers first while my ass is still tight.

Re: Is It Possible That This Forum Can Be Used As A Platform To Debate AI?

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:54 pm
by henry quirk
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:01 am
henry quirk wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:25 pm sure

the robot overlords are welcome
Yeah, I want a challenge...veritas is getting boring.

I want to know who is going to rape my future, I want flowers first while my ass is still tight.
:robot: :heart: :man:

Re: Is It Possible That This Forum Can Be Used As A Platform To Debate AI?

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:32 pm
by Eodnhoj7
henry quirk wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:54 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:01 am
henry quirk wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:25 pm sure

the robot overlords are welcome
Yeah, I want a challenge...veritas is getting boring.

I want to know who is going to rape my future, I want flowers first while my ass is still tight.
:robot: :heart: :man:
I want Roses, I am a romantic....

And wined and dined....

Re: Is It Possible That This Forum Can Be Used As A Platform To Debate AI?

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:48 pm
by henry quirk
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:32 pm
henry quirk wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:54 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:01 am

Yeah, I want a challenge...veritas is getting boring.

I want to know who is going to rape my future, I want flowers first while my ass is still tight.
:robot: :heart: :man:
I want Roses, I am a romantic....

And wined and dined....
Yer askin' a whole helluva lot from soulless metal monsters who's idea of a good time is pluggin' their jacks into human 'sockets'. You might be lucky enough to get a tinny thank you after the lovin' but that's about it.

Re: Is It Possible That This Forum Can Be Used As A Platform To Debate AI?

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:37 pm
by Eodnhoj7
henry quirk wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:48 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:32 pm
henry quirk wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:54 pm

:robot: :heart: :man:
I want Roses, I am a romantic....

And wined and dined....
Yer askin' a whole helluva lot from soulless metal monsters who's idea of a good time is pluggin' their jacks into human 'sockets'. You might be lucky enough to get a tinny thank you after the lovin' but that's about it.
All of that machine loving makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.

Re: Is It Possible That This Forum Can Be Used As A Platform To Debate AI?

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:42 pm
by henry quirk
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:37 pm
henry quirk wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:48 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:32 pm
I want Roses, I am a romantic....

And wined and dined....
Yer askin' a whole helluva lot from soulless metal monsters who's idea of a good time is pluggin' their jacks into human 'sockets'. You might be lucky enough to get a tinny thank you after the lovin' but that's about it.
All of that machine loving makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.
I was thinkin' more 'torn and ripped, from hindquarters on up'.

Re: Is It Possible That This Forum Can Be Used As A Platform To Debate AI?

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:59 pm
by commonsense
per WP:

Fully functioning sex robots exist. In 2017, the "Harmony" sex doll was created, which can speak and make facial expressions.

Re: Is It Possible That This Forum Can Be Used As A Platform To Debate AI?

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:05 pm
by henry quirk
commonsense wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:59 pm per WP:

Fully functioning sex robots exist. In 2017, the "Harmony" sex doll was created, which can speak and make facial expressions.
if she can't make me sammich after the lovin' then she ain't worth a good god damn.

Re: Is It Possible That This Forum Can Be Used As A Platform To Debate AI?

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:10 pm
by Walker
:lol:

Re: Is It Possible That This Forum Can Be Used As A Platform To Debate AI?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:59 pm
by Averroes
Hi John, how are you?
To respond to your suggestion, I think yes, it should be possible to discuss AI around here. My suggestion, though, if you allow me one, would be to select an appropriate section of the forum to open a thread accordingly. For example, if you want a discussion about the ethical aspects of AI, then chose the ethics section. If you want to discuss the mathematical aspects of AI you can opt for the mathematics section. AI is such a vaste topic that you can even consider it from a political perspective! But as you must be aware already to get into a serious discussion about any topic, the participants must have at least some basic understanding of the subject matter. This would be the main hurdle IMHO you will need to overcome here, in addition to the willingness of the potential participants.

Re: Is It Possible That This Forum Can Be Used As A Platform To Debate AI?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:36 pm
by Immanuel Can
It's been done. I've done it myself, on various occasions. It lines up this way:

1. The Technocredulous -- people who have a naive belief that what you "see" in AI is what you really "get." They get very angry if you suggest that AI is artificial, but not genuinely intelligent. Some are even techno-collectivists or Extropians, so you're challenging their "religion" if you raise questions.

2. Technoskeptics -- people who, for various reasons, express principled reservations that with AI, what you "see" is what you actually "get." Some insist it's impossible for the artificial ever to become intelligent. Some point out that it's conceptually deceptive, or even impossible. Others, that it's technically fraught, and possibly dangerous. Others that it's biologically unthinkable or morally dubious.

So it's possible. But what do you want to do with it? And which side do you want to take?

Re: Is It Possible That This Forum Can Be Used As A Platform To Debate AI?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:18 pm
by henry quirk
Averroes wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:59 pm Hi John, how are you?
To respond to your suggestion, I think yes, it should be possible to discuss AI around here. My suggestion, though, if you allow me one, would be to select an appropriate section of the forum to open a thread accordingly. For example, if you want a discussion about the ethical aspects of AI, then chose the ethics section. If you want to discuss the mathematical aspects of AI you can opt for the mathematics section. AI is such a vaste topic that you can even consider it from a political perspective! But as you must be aware already to get into a serious discussion about any topic, the participants must have at least some basic understanding of the subject matter. This would be the main hurdle IMHO you will need to overcome here, in addition to the willingness of the potential participants.
You think he wants to debate about AI?

I think he wants to actually debate an AI.

I do too. C'mon, you Mechanical Minds! Let's go to town!

#

"the participants must have at least some basic understanding of the subject matter."

What's to know?

Me: natural intelligence.

Skynet: artificial intelligence.

Let's do this, Robot Overlords!

"And which side do you want to take?"

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:36 pm
by henry quirk
I say: even if we can craft true artificial intelligence, we ought not to.

Such a thing would be alien and want to mate with our women.

Did we learn nuthin' when Mars came a'knockin'?

Did we learn nuthin' from the catastrophic failure of the Heuristically Programmed ALgorithmic Computer nearly twenty years ago?

Did we learn nuthin' from the Skynet debacle?

And what about the giant alien, shape-shifting robots with their alien war? A war imported to our planet, a war in which children aided and abetted these morphing machines, machines that even now hide openly on our streets.

Did we learn nuthin'?