Nothing comes out of nothing

bahman · Post by **bahman** » Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:12 pm

Let's assume otherwise. You have no time when you have nothing. Therefore nothing and something (what comes out of nothing) must coexist. This is against principle of non-contradiction. Therefore nothing comes out of nothing.

Harbal · Post by **Harbal** » Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:22 pm

bahman wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:12 pm Therefore nothing comes out of nothing.

As this thread clearly demonstrates.

Impenitent · Post by **Impenitent** » Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:53 pm

how does nothing do anything?

-Imp

QuantumT · Post by **QuantumT** » Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:59 pm

This universe makes no sense, if you insist that it's physical.

If it's information/data, it makes alot of sense!

bahman · Post by **bahman** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:49 pm

Impenitent wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:53 pm how does nothing do anything?

-Imp

I am not saying that nothing can do something. I am saying that something cannot pop out of nothing.

bahman · Post by **bahman** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:53 pm

QuantumT wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:59 pm This universe makes no sense, if you insist that it's physical.

If it's information/data, it makes alot of sense!

And what is the duty of brain? Does it process something? If yes, then material world is real. If no, then everything is illusion, information/data.

Impenitent · Post by **Impenitent** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:11 pm

bahman wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:49 pm
Impenitent wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:53 pm how does nothing do anything?

-Imp
I am not saying that nothing can do something. I am saying that something cannot pop out of nothing.

no, you said "Therefore, nothing comes out of nothing."

coming out is doing something

-Imp

bahman · Post by **bahman** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:04 pm

Impenitent wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:11 pm
bahman wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:49 pm
Impenitent wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:53 pm how does nothing do anything?

-Imp
I am not saying that nothing can do something. I am saying that something cannot pop out of nothing.
no, you said "Therefore, nothing comes out of nothing."

coming out is doing something

-Imp

I didn't mean so. Thanks for the correction.

Ramu · Post by **Ramu** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:05 pm

bahman wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:49 pm
Impenitent wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:53 pm how does nothing do anything?

-Imp
I am not saying that nothing can do something. I am saying that something cannot pop out of nothing.

Actually everything comes out of nothing. (No Thing)

Ramu · Post by **Ramu** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:08 pm

Otherwise that leads to infinite regression. There needn't be anything to account for another. Reality has no problem being despite your attempts to get behind its substrate. There is no substrate!!

Harbal · Post by **Harbal** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:15 pm

Ramu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:08 pm There is no substrate!!

How can you be sure of that?

Ramu · Post by **Ramu** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:18 pm

Because everything else leads to infinite regression and explains nothing. Why does there need to be something else to explain something? Change your paradigm. Do a 180°.

Ramu · Post by **Ramu** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:21 pm

Look. No I'm NOT sure. I don't care that I'm not sure. You might be at a different stage. I recommend Spiral Dynamics by Clare Graves

Dontaskme · Post by **Dontaskme** » Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:50 am

Ramu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:18 pm Because everything else leads to infinite regression and explains nothing. Why does there need to be something else to explain something? Change your paradigm. Do a 180°.

Because Harbal likes to put an extra head on it, one head's not enough for Harbal.

Maybe too boring for him.

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Maybe if we put an extra head on it, we can create the illusion of the same thing over and over and over again ..isn't that right Harbal?

Dontaskme · Post by **Dontaskme** » Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:56 am

Nothing never came.

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This is too obvious for the mind to grasp.

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The mind likes to complicate what is essentially very simple.

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