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Elizabeth Hemsley considers ethical arguments for and against a new embryo modification procedure.

https://philosophynow.org/issues/113/The_Use_of_Embryos

It seems churlish, given that a million embryos end up in a bloody bucket only to be flushed into the "Bio -hazardus Waste" Chute, every month, that this material could be used to find cures for diseases such as cancer and genetic 'abnormalities', is not.

This article hinges on the popular but mere “belief” that say a zygote is a human individual, which “believes” that LIFE enters at conception. I believe that there is a crucial but religiously ignored difference between “being alive” and “having LIFE” and I produce as evidence the now common practice of organ transplanting. An organ from a corpse is dead, its INDIVIDUAL has departed. The organ has lost its connection to LIFE. However that organ is still alive (for a while) and is kept alive by keeping it on ice. So there we have a lifeless organ i.e. without LIFE being ALIVE; QED. Also: a corpse is dead, LIFE-less, but its cells are very much alive and busy to convert it into a putrid state, “dust to dust” be it by cremation, burial or leaving it to nature like on a battle field.
That reminds me of that other point in the article where it refers to mitochondrial donation involving sacrificing one embryo. Why such thoughts when in war human lives are sacrificed at random on both sides, each firmly “believing” to have a right to do so.

The general intellect in various humans are tragically low, the only way to bypass this is to use genetics. At the same time we need robots to take over the "loser jobs" that highly intelligent humans won't take.

HexHammer wrote:... At the same time we need robots to take over the "loser jobs" that highly intelligent humans won't take.

What are the losers going to do?

Arising_uk wrote:

HexHammer wrote:... At the same time we need robots to take over the "loser jobs" that highly intelligent humans won't take.

What are the losers going to do?

Room with Hex.

Arising_uk wrote:

HexHammer wrote:... At the same time we need robots to take over the "loser jobs" that highly intelligent humans won't take.

What are the losers going to do?

Do loser jobs? ..dunno how many losers there are with good genetics.

HexHammer wrote:Do loser jobs? ...

But you said robots will be doing them?

dunno how many losers there are with good genetics.

No idea what you mean by 'losers' nor 'good' genetics?

Arising_uk wrote:

HexHammer wrote:Do loser jobs? ...

But you said robots will be doing them?

dunno how many losers there are with good genetics.

No idea what you mean by 'losers' nor 'good' genetics?

It's always possible to free up some robots to make losers do loser jobs?

HexHammer wrote:It's always possible to free up some robots to make losers do loser jobs?

Why?

And what do you mean by 'loser' jobs?

Arising_uk wrote:

HexHammer wrote:It's always possible to free up some robots to make losers do loser jobs?

Why?

And what do you mean by 'loser' jobs?

"idleness is the root cause of all evil" if you sit idle you will dissolve mentally, the brain is like a muscle that needs training to stay strong and useful, you most likely get depressed, get bored and cause trouble ..etc, that's why having a job is a good cure.

"loser jobs" like ..cleaning toilets, sweep the ground ..jobs that require no intelligence.

HexHammer wrote:

Arising_uk wrote:

HexHammer wrote:It's always possible to free up some robots to make losers do loser jobs?

Why?

And what do you mean by 'loser' jobs?

"idleness is the root cause of all evil" if you sit idle you will dissolve mentally, the brain is like a muscle that needs training to stay strong and useful, you most likely get depressed, get bored and cause trouble ..etc, that's why having a job is a good cure.

"loser jobs" like ..cleaning toilets, sweep the ground ..jobs that require no intelligence.

Those 'loser jobs' are what make life comfortable for everyone. I have the greatest respect for those doing what you call 'loser jobs'. And a lot of people love that kind of work. You can take pride in any kind of job, and do it to the best of your ability. There are plenty of wanker jobs you could pick on that don't create, and contribute nothing positive.

hubris is fun

-Imp

Great. Yet another use to invade a woman's bodily integrity. Breed them til they fall apart, use them after, and then take the excess.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:Those 'loser jobs' are what make life comfortable for everyone. I have the greatest respect for those doing what you call 'loser jobs'. And a lot of people love that kind of work. You can take pride in any kind of job, and do it to the best of your ability. There are plenty of wanker jobs you could pick on that don't create, and contribute nothing positive.

Yes, you are very right! ..but the problem is that so many in Denmark are on wealthfare and won't bother to take such jobs, because if they don't it's inconsequencial ..they will get their wealthare anyways. So they deem them @loser jobs@, even tho I personally consider it a job like any other as it\s an honest job!