~ Singleton: Hell On Earth or the Perfect Democracy? ~

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~ Singleton: Hell On Earth or the Perfect Democracy? ~

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A singleton is a hypothetical world order in which there is a single decision-making agency at the highest level, capable of exerting effective control over its domain, and permanently preventing both internal and external threats to its supremacy.



The term has first been defined by Nick Bostrom.


An artificial general intelligence having undergone an intelligence explosion could form a singleton, as could a world government armed with mind control and social surveillance technologies.

A singleton need not directly micromanage everything in its domain; it could allow diverse forms of organization within itself, albeit guaranteed to function within strict parameters. A singleton need not support a civilization, and in fact could obliterate it upon coming to power.


A singleton has both potential risks and potential benefits. Notably, a suitable singleton could solve world coordination problems that would not otherwise be solvable, opening up otherwise unavailable developmental trajectories for civilization.


For example, Ben Goertzel, an AGI researcher, suggests humans may instead decide to create an "AI Nanny" with "mildly superhuman intelligence and surveillance powers", to protect the human race from existential risks like nanotechnology and to delay the development of other (unfriendly) artificial intelligences until and unless the safety issues are solved.


Furthermore, Bostrom suggests that a singleton could hold Darwinian evolutionary pressures in check, preventing agents interested only in reproduction from coming to dominate.

Yet Bostrom also regards the possibility of a stable, repressive, totalitarian global regime as a serious existential risk.



The very stability of a singleton makes the installation of a bad singleton especially catastrophic, since the consequences can never be undone. Bryan Caplan writes that "perhaps an eternity of totalitarianism would be worse than extinction".




Whatever Singleton is, singleton is happening now.


We are moving quickly towards the development of an almost perfect singleton.






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This stuff has all been well explored in Sci-Fi literature, take your pick, Banks, Asher, Reynolds, Stross, Corey, Hamilton, Morgan, Macleod, et al.

Still, with respect to your title, can't be a Democracy as no-one will be voting this singleton in but the chances of it happening any-time soon are extremely rare as the nation state has a way to go yet.
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Happening now with the advent of cryptocurriencies.



...never been a fan of sci-fi.



Total transparency
yet etched into the Ethernet for eternity on one world-wide platform...



Brings to mind Ouspensky and the waxing mechanicalness of mankind.







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Bill Wiltrack wrote: A singleton is a hypothetical world order in which there is a single decision-making agency at the highest level, capable of exerting effective control over its domain, and permanently preventing both internal and external threats to its supremacy.

Bill Wiltrack wrote:
Happening now with the advent of cryptocurriencies.

A Cryptocurrency is not an AI, nor is it a decision making agent. If it were to become anything resembling either of those things, it would no longer be a currency.
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Re: ~ Singleton: Hell On Earth or the Perfect Democracy? ~

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Bill Wiltrack wrote:.
Happening now with the advent of cryptocurriencies. ...
What's happening now with these? Not what you're talking about as they are pretty much antithetical to any 'world order'.
...never been a fan of sci-fi. ...
Your loss.
Total transparency[/b] yet etched into the Ethernet for eternity on one world-wide platform...
What's a comms protocol got to do with anything?

What are you waffling on about now?
Brings to mind Ouspensky and the waxing mechanicalness of mankind..
Although he wasn't talking about mechanisms per se.
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There are platforms developing right now that are quickly driving ALL humanity into a more mechanical type of business structure that will change the dynamic of the common marketplace, thus in turn, changing humanity.


Singleton.






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Please quote your sources as out-of-context phrases make it hard to understand what you are plagiarising about?

So what is meant by a 'more mechanical type of business structure'? As all computer algorithms do is implement what we do in the first place but faster.
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Etherium is not a Singleton. Even if it had such qualities as you describe, it would lack those in your definition of the term above.

This is sample code for their contract in a blockchain concept.
It's well commented, so you don't need to have any programming skills to understand what's going on.
If you've ever used a browser plugin to automatically bid on an eBay auction, there's nothing all that special about it, other than some tidying up of a perfectly common process.
The same is true of the rest of their promises, there is simply no particular reason why embedding logic into the currency is better than having multiple platforms.

The real problem is that you clearly don't understand computers at all, you seem to think they are magic. As a result you are imbuing them with supernatural qualities.

Someone recently offered to teach you some programming. Perhaps if you took them up on the offer you wouldn't be so obviously out of your depth with all this techno-utopian nonsense.
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