Which would you prefer; A New World Order or a World Caliphate?

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Which would you prefer; A New World Order or a World Caliphate?

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Which would you prefer; A New World Order or a World Caliphate?

Or a perpetual insurgency war against civilians?

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Islam’s hates democracy and the Western culture. Islam is determined to destroy the West and democracy so as to install a World Caliphate.

The West is beginning to hate Islam thanks to this hatred against them and Western ideas of a New World Order.

If we as a world cannot change our views and remove this hate from our hearts, we are bound to end in a larger numbers of small battles within a larger war.

We must find a better way to appease our objections to rapprochement. If we cannot dispel these irritants, a long and expanding jihad is inevitable. Because the jihad can only be an insurgency war, eventually the West will have to resort to the same techniques if the West is to win. This then would make the war against civilians instead against combatants. This is a coward’s war that Islam is forcing onto the world. Islam of course will blame the West for the war that the West will blame on Islam.

Both sides want to eventually have a one world government. I advocate for a one world government and think that the West and Islam should sit down and decide the rules of this one world government and to see if there is any rapprochement possible between what would be an Islamic theocracy or Caliphate, with an absentee God ruling through Sharia, and a freedom promoting Western system with a visible elected ruler.

If no rapprochement is possible then it is the Wests duty to declare a war against Islam and annihilate it if it will not reform into a peaceful world religion.

Many try to cut radical jihadists out of Islam’s general population and say they are hijacking Islam and are not really real Muslims. I suggest that Islam itself and their holy books are what are creating these extremists and that Islam has now produced a majority of extremists within its general population. If Islam does not reform its belief system and literature, the West will have no choice but to try to destroy Islam. The older world would have had to do the same with Christianity if it had maintained its own jihad that was called the Inquisition. Radical Islam is being seen as the mainstream Islam and the world cannot and will not live with such an Islam.

We are not creating any new conditions between Islam and the West. Attacks and the death of innocent non-combatants civilians in this cowardly jihad will continue if no new conditions are introduced. It is said that to continue to do the same thing and expect a different outcome, is insanity. We are at the point of insanity and that is why I suggest a new condition which would be peace negotiations that would produce a new order in the world that would embrace both Western ideologies as well as Muslim ideologies.

This may be the only way to rid the world of the hate and cowardly jihad against civilians. A form of insurgency fighting that the West would have to adopt against Islam to win the jihad.

If you do not agree, then what would you suggest to bring the West and Islam to a rapprochement?

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Thank you for the time and attention devoted to pointing this out. Went through the video fast forward, stopping here and there. Still processing that before watching the full video at another time. After that, I’ll watch it again at another time and reprocess. So far it’s very powerful.

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Which would you prefer; A New World Order or a World Caliphate?
Neither one, only a government run by the AEP is acceptable to me.
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Try English and words so that I might understand your reply.

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Greatest I am wrote:Which would you prefer; A New World Order or a World Caliphate? ...
I'd have thought that a world caliphate would be a new world order?
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Arising_uk wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:Which would you prefer; A New World Order or a World Caliphate? ...
I'd have thought that a world caliphate would be a new world order?
Not quite sure how 'new' a caliphate would be. Strikes me as medieval.

Anyways, to answer the question, both sound just so great, I can barely stop myself from peeing my pants with excitement!... Holy fuck, what an assinine question.
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Do we really reckon that those jihadist shitheads have got what it takes to establish a world caliphate? They're just ordinary gangsters exploiting the psychologically vulnerable to fulfill a wealth and power agenda of their own.

"Plus ca change plus c'est la meme chose"....Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Karr....The more things change, the more they remain the same.
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The AEP is the only rational choice.
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bobevenson wrote:The AEP is the only rational choice.
Sure, if you're clinically insane.
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Arising_uk wrote:
bobevenson wrote:The AEP is the only rational choice.
Sure, if you're clinically insane.
Ah, so you know Bob?
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I think all this stuff will sort itself out. It sounds facile but the answer lies in the future, with systems rising, falling and adapting as they've always done.

Islamic caliphates are weak, with most of their people being exploited, uneducated and living rough. Compare their influence with the phenomenon of Chindia. Part of the world are pushing into the future while others cling to the past. My money's on China and India being far more influential to the future of humanity than our current rump of denialist Luddite theocrats.
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Arising_uk wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:Which would you prefer; A New World Order or a World Caliphate? ...
I'd have thought that a world caliphate would be a new world order?
Part of my point. We all want the same. One faction seems to want to include freedom of speech while the other would ban freedom of speech.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... TdKxCz2FIQ

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Dalek Prime wrote:
Arising_uk wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:Which would you prefer; A New World Order or a World Caliphate? ...
I'd have thought that a world caliphate would be a new world order?
Not quite sure how 'new' a caliphate would be. Strikes me as medieval.

Anyways, to answer the question, both sound just so great, I can barely stop myself from peeing my pants with excitement!... Holy fuck, what an assinine question.
What do you have against a Western type of world government?

The world has been heading that way for a long time now.

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Obvious Leo wrote:Do we really reckon that those jihadist shitheads have got what it takes to establish a world caliphate? They're just ordinary gangsters exploiting the psychologically vulnerable to fulfill a wealth and power agenda of their own.

"Plus ca change plus c'est la meme chose"....Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Karr....The more things change, the more they remain the same.
What kind of gangsters would you name our present political talking heads if not just ordinary gangsters?

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Greta wrote:I think all this stuff will sort itself out. It sounds facile but the answer lies in the future, with systems rising, falling and adapting as they've always done.

Islamic caliphates are weak, with most of their people being exploited, uneducated and living rough. Compare their influence with the phenomenon of Chindia. Part of the world are pushing into the future while others cling to the past. My money's on China and India being far more influential to the future of humanity than our current rump of denialist Luddite theocrats.
China especially seems on the right track.

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