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Have you ever been banned...

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for no good reason or no particular reason at all from any forum?

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Re: Have you ever been banned...

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I have. Someone mistook a joke as real, and had my post deleted. It all blew up, the forum owner being a tyrant. I overreacted and got banned. Since then, I've learned not to react so harshly to people on a forum, because it all boils down to "much ado about nothing".
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The same thing happened to me. I used an absurdly remote possibility as the solution to a problem, like "That will happen only if this happens." and they treated is an unacceptable politically divisive remark. I can't say I miss that forum.

I got locked out of another one, without formal banning.
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I've been banned from a few physics forums for questioning the canonical doctrines. I've found that no group defends its eternal verities against an interloping philosopher as vehemently as does the priesthood of physics. Far from being embarrassed about the fact that their models make no sense they seem to take pride in it because they can then assume the right to redefine what making sense means. Oy vey!!
Skip wrote:I got locked out of another one, without formal banning.
A similar thing happened to me. I wasn't locked out but my posts had to be vetted by the thought police before being submitted. I wasn't prepared to accept this condition so I took my bat and ball and went home. In fact I came here.
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I was banned from a forum, in fact my whole account was deleted, but later I got back in, and got an apology.
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"I wouldn't want to belong to a club which would have me as a member"....Groucho Marx.
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I wouldn't want to belong to a club that doesn't want me as a member.

Still, I like to cause the rejection on purpose, rather than inadvertently. I hate inadvertency!
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Skip wrote: Still, I like to cause the rejection on purpose, rather than inadvertently. I hate inadvertency!
I know how you feel. I was chucked out of a physics forum for making this statement:

"An observation is an act of cognition." I was warned that this was a heretical statement which had no place in a physics forum and advised that I would be banned if I ever repeated it. In my following post I quoted verbatim a variety of statements from over a dozen of the most eminent physicists in history who had said this or made some similar statement which was obviously a paraphrase of it. The very last line of quotes was my own statement repeated. "An observation is an act of cognition". I was immediately banned but I can't claim that there was any inadvertency involved. To a physicist a philosopher is the lowest kind of pond-life. A smartarse who comes along and allows the facts to fuck up a good story is even worse than the bloke who farted in the elevator.
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That must be a very sharp, cold fence you straddle! I have it easy: NOTA.
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Obvious Leo wrote:
Skip wrote: Still, I like to cause the rejection on purpose, rather than inadvertently. I hate inadvertency!
I know how you feel. I was chucked out of a physics forum for making this statement:

"An observation is an act of cognition." I was warned that this was a heretical statement which had no place in a physics forum and advised that I would be banned if I ever repeated it. In my following post I quoted verbatim a variety of statements from over a dozen of the most eminent physicists in history who had said this or made some similar statement which was obviously a paraphrase of it. The very last line of quotes was my own statement repeated. "An observation is an act of cognition". I was immediately banned but I can't claim that there was any inadvertency involved. To a physicist a philosopher is the lowest kind of pond-life. A smartarse who comes along and allows the facts to fuck up a good story is even worse than the bloke who farted in the elevator.

It doesn't sound like that forum was populated by many real physicists, and just going on a forum claiming to be one, doesn't prove anything. I could claim to be an MD, but I'm not, I don't even have a PhD. "thedoc" is just a nickname that some of my friends call me. I don't believe an accusation of heresy has any place in actual physics. Heresy is a religious term, and the last time I checked, physics is not a religion.
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Heresy has been used in secular matters for some time now: a deviation from doctrine of any kind, whether ideological, partisan, professional or academic. For instance, someone telling a Bauhaus architect that St. Paul's is a good building or to a behaviourist that child-training is all about gratuitous hugs would be considered heretical. I used to talk about the feelings and motivations and interpersonal dialogue of lab rats just to see Dr. K's face turn purple.
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Skip wrote:That must be a very sharp, cold fence you straddle! I have it easy: NOTA.
I've become quite accustomed to it, skip, but I'll admit that there are times when I yearn for the good old days when science and philosophy were regarded as merely two different ways of approaching the same questions. To a philosopher of applied metaphysics each is useless without the other but I dabble in a very restricted field and the warm embrace of like minds is something I've had to learn to live without.
thedoc wrote: Heresy is a religious term, and the last time I checked, physics is not a religion.
Nevertheless the arcane secrets of physics are jealously guarded by a fundamentalist priesthood who make bloody sure that anybody who dares to challenge their foundational assumptions is ostracised. I am comforted by the fact that burning dissenters at the stake is less fashionable than it once was.
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The Masons we have always with us.
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Sure, plenty times. Some deserved and others not so much. One thing I've noticed though, on most sites mods are more forgiving than not, but sometimes you come across a mod or admin. that just isn't in the mood. Whether that's ethical is a bit iffy, but if you're acting an ass then you really don't have an argument.
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Green wrote:Sure, plenty times. Some deserved and others not so much. One thing I've noticed though, on most sites mods are more forgiving than not, but sometimes you come across a mod or admin. that just isn't in the mood. Whether that's ethical is a bit iffy, but if you're acting an ass then you really don't have an argument.
Were you banned because you were acting like an ass?
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