The DECIDING point

[manden]

We men must learn to live in real harmony with his creation .

But we can only do that , when we know , that a real creator of the universe really exists , who wants that from us !

And only a man can recognize , that the real creator of the universe really exists , who is completely honest , especially to himself ,

and searches for the truth about the real creator of the universe with all his strength .

(that is incredibly difficult)

[Bill Wiltrack]

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I, I really don't follow the logic of your premise...and if I force myself to attempt to understand your thesis, I don't think I would agree with it.

If you are attempting to develop a philosophical query you are overreaching with your initial statement, and then again, I don't think you follow-it up with supporting logic.


Could you attempt to rephrase the focus of this thread?





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[Skip]

We men must learn to live in real harmony with his creation .

Women must, then, learn to live in harmony with her creation.

And then we must retire, respectively, to Mars and Venus. That'll work.

[Arising_uk]

What happens to your thought if this 'creator' is a woman? Or if it's just a cellular automata?

[Obvious Leo]

Next time you're having a word with your so-called creator tell him it's time that he and Leo had a chat. I have some pointed questions to put to him about some of the schematic flaws he incorporated into my left hip. A half-pissed engineering student with a smattering of biology could design a better ball joint with his eyes shut.

[Skip]

Next time you're having a word with your so-called creator tell him it's time that he and Leo had a chat. I have some pointed questions to put to him about some of the schematic flaws he incorporated into my left hip. A half-pissed engineering student with a smattering of biology could design a better ball joint with his eyes shut.

He did.
The overworked, underfed assembly-line elves let a few substandard units slide through, to make their quota.

[Obvious Leo]

The overworked, underfed assembly-line elves let a few substandard units slide through, to make their quota.

Thank you, skip. I'm not sure that being described as a substandard unit is complimentary but it's certainly explanatory, and since there are persons of my acquaintance who have at times made the same observation there might well be something in it. I'll think of myself as the result of a software glitch which means that strictly speaking I should have been spat into the reject bin and fed back through the system for recycling.

[Skip]

I was only referring to the hip joint (For some as yet unexplained reason it's nearly always the left.)
If you have complaints about the rest of the assembly, the end of the queue is currently in Alpha Centauri.

[manden]

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I, I really don't follow the logic of your premise...and if I force myself to attempt to understand your thesis, I don't think I would agree with it.

If you are attempting to develop a philosophical query you are overreaching with your initial statement, and then again, I don't think you follow-it up with supporting logic.


Could you attempt to rephrase the focus of this thread?





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Bill , what I wrote is word for word true . What shall I explain , you cannot understand , if you are not a man like I explained . And I don't know
somebody else , who can understand what I say . But I hope I can bring you and other people a little forward .
Please ask an aimed question . This topic is incredibly difficult for men , much more than you think .

[manden]

The real creator of the universe does NOT interfere here (recognizably) . We must make it here ourselves ! Till now catastrophally .

[attofishpi]

...and I don't know somebody else , who can understand what I say .

So shouldn't you apply a little self analysis and realise you are an irrational idiot incapable of conveying any logic to fellow man?

But I hope I can bring you and other people a little forward .

Forward? To where?

This topic is incredibly difficult for men , much more than you think .

I'm sure it would be difficult for women too. Who exactly are supposed to make any sense of your drivel? Aliens?

[Bill Wiltrack]

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Here is your initial premise -



We men must learn to live in real harmony with his creation .

Why?

Who is this we you are referring to?

To be godlike or to see god I insist that we must fight EVERYTHING within us.

We must learn to go to war within us. So, as I stated in my original reaction to your original post - If I understand you correctly, I don't agree with you.



You continued -

But we can only do that , when we know , that a real creator of the universe really exists , who wants that from us !

That is an irrational statement. It does not even attempt to support your initial statement...

And only a man can recognize , that the real creator of the universe really exists , who is completely honest , especially to himself ,

and searches for the truth about the real creator of the universe with all his strength .

(that is incredibly difficult)




You should be embarrassed. I fully understand why you hide behind a false moniker. Unsubscribed.





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[manden]

Bill , one point after the other !

Why must the mankind learn to live in real harmony with his creation ?

Because the real creator of the universe wants it !

Start thinking logically , if you can !

[Skip]

"The real creator" suggests that there is an unreal, or false creator. How can that be?

[manden]

I say real creator , because many religions have a God who is called creator ( and these Gods are false - manmade ) .