Can Time Dilation be explained with Newton Physics?

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

Please play the simulation, then answer the question. (Windows only)

New link. http://www.wikiupload.com/76GQKZJ3AVMCUXM

http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/6 ... m-zip.html





(Screenshots won't show in the forums for some reason.)

screenshot1 http://postimg.org/image/7hv062bm5/

[Ginkgo]

No, Newtonian physics can't explain time dilation. Newtonian physics regards time and space as separate entities. Space is just the stage where physical events are played out. Time is just there and eternal it ticks away and is the same for every observer no matter where they are or how fast they are moving. Time and space take no part in the action, so to speak.

Special relativity paints a complete different picture. Space and time are two phenomenon that are indistinct. In other words we cannot draw a sharp distinction between the two. The reason for this is because light has a speed limit; two observers may not agree on the timing of a single event. For example, if I were were in the middle of two lights and both were to be switched on simultaneously, I would see them lighting up at the same time. Someone standing to the side see, this event as not being simultaneous. The person standing to the side sees the light closest to them lighting up first.

This is a basis for time dilation, but strictly speaking we cannot consider time dilation without also considering general relativity. But special relativity is a good starting point.

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

No, Newtonian physics can't explain time dilation. Newtonian physics regards time and space as separate entities. Space is just the stage where physical events are played out. Time is just there and eternal it ticks away and is the same for every observer no matter where they are or how fast they are moving. Time and space take no part in the action, so to speak.

Special relativity paints a complete different picture. Space and time are two phenomenon that are indistinct. In other words we cannot draw a sharp distinction between the two. The reason for this is because light has a speed limit; two observers may not agree on the timing of a single event. For example, if I were were in the middle of two lights and both were to be switched on simultaneously, I would see them lighting up at the same time. Someone standing to the side see, this event as not being simultaneous. The person standing to the side sees the light closest to them lighting up first.

This is a basis for time dilation, but strictly speaking we cannot consider time dilation without also considering general relativity. But special relativity is a good starting point.

Did you run the simulation or do you not have Windows? I am aware of all those points. It is important to run the simulation first before continuing.

[Ginkgo]

No, Newtonian physics can't explain time dilation. Newtonian physics regards time and space as separate entities. Space is just the stage where physical events are played out. Time is just there and eternal it ticks away and is the same for every observer no matter where they are or how fast they are moving. Time and space take no part in the action, so to speak.

Special relativity paints a complete different picture. Space and time are two phenomenon that are indistinct. In other words we cannot draw a sharp distinction between the two. The reason for this is because light has a speed limit; two observers may not agree on the timing of a single event. For example, if I were were in the middle of two lights and both were to be switched on simultaneously, I would see them lighting up at the same time. Someone standing to the side see, this event as not being simultaneous. The person standing to the side sees the light closest to them lighting up first.

This is a basis for time dilation, but strictly speaking we cannot consider time dilation without also considering general relativity. But special relativity is a good starting point.

Did you run the simulation or do you not have Windows? I am aware of all those points. It is important to run the simulation first before continuing.

Didn't seem to work for me. Are they saying that Newtonian physics can explain time dilation?

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

No, Newtonian physics can't explain time dilation. Newtonian physics regards time and space as separate entities. Space is just the stage where physical events are played out. Time is just there and eternal it ticks away and is the same for every observer no matter where they are or how fast they are moving. Time and space take no part in the action, so to speak.

Special relativity paints a complete different picture. Space and time are two phenomenon that are indistinct. In other words we cannot draw a sharp distinction between the two. The reason for this is because light has a speed limit; two observers may not agree on the timing of a single event. For example, if I were were in the middle of two lights and both were to be switched on simultaneously, I would see them lighting up at the same time. Someone standing to the side see, this event as not being simultaneous. The person standing to the side sees the light closest to them lighting up first.

This is a basis for time dilation, but strictly speaking we cannot consider time dilation without also considering general relativity. But special relativity is a good starting point.

Did you run the simulation or do you not have Windows? I am aware of all those points. It is important to run the simulation first before continuing.

Didn't seem to work for me. Are they saying that Newtonian physics can explain time dilation?

What version of windows do you got?

[Ginkgo]

Vista

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

Vista

Should work, what error do you get?

[Blaggard]

No no it can't.

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

No no it can't.

Did you run the simulation? It was designed to be compatible with Windows Vista by the way.

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

Wow you all are some lazy fucks. It said none of you downloaded it. Is the site counter wrong?

[Blaggard]

I watched it was just wrong or at least I watched those screenshots and got the jist. so no just no.

Your link just leads to advertising I suggest you upload whatever it is to a neutral medium and then let us watch it. That said I wouldn't bother, but hey I am up for it...

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

I watched it was just wrong or at least I watched those screenshots and got the jist. so no just no.

Screenshots loaded for you? And the simulation loaded okay? It's interactive, the way you make it sound it sounds like you didn't utilize the interactivity part. You said "watched".


Okay i will pick a different host.

[Blaggard]

It doesn't work all I get is some advertising bollocks.

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

It doesn't work all I get is some advertising bollocks.

Worked for me but I will pick a new host.

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

Okay posted a new link.