are photons in both locality and nonlocality at one moment

[jackles]

Are photons local and nonlocal in the exact same way as spooky action.

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

Are photons local and nonlocal in the exact same way as spooky action.

Well assuming Einstein's right here's my side.

You see, the theory also says the speed of light is finite, 186,000 miles per second.
So there would have been a delay for the shuttle to reach Earth, even from the guy on Earth's perspective.
The guy standing on Earth's watch would NOT read 3:15, but 3:15.05 or some other value.

This is different from the standard binary form of time dilation you understand. There are actually THREE different dilations going on.

So, upon stepping on Earth and exiting his shuttle, according to Einstein's theory, the guy in the shuttle magically enters an alternate universe, a parallel dimension, where they guy on Earth's watch magically reads 3:15 (instead of 3:15.05 as it should in the original reality.)

According to this, it would seem that all one needs to do to travel backwards in time, is simply nudge a little faster than the speed of light, and you get to go as far backward in time as you please.

Seemingly something at home comfortable in the land of LSD and rabbit holes.

And thus, if approaching the event horizon of a black hole, light could slingshot using the gravitation vortex to exceed 186,000 miles per second, causing backwards time travel around it. This would serve no purpose, because the black hole would still exist, for a while. The light would swirl around, continuing to accelerate and eventually reach the point in time before the black hole existed, the light would likely move in a random direction at this point, or no direction, going inside itself into another dimension, possibly because it went so far back in time it cascaded itself from the shrinking of the universe. allowing it to time travel back in time, providing black holes exist and that it entered the surface of the black hole at just the right tangent in order to maximize it's swirling ability.

The big question is, what is the light we see? Is it a fake because the real light is in another dimension? If someone traveled lightspeed, it would imply that they became two separate consciousnesses, drifting further and further apart the longer they travel.

[jackles]

Yes I follow that trixie. I can perhaps explain what i mean by using numbers. If a photon where to be represented by 1and nonlocality be represented by 0 and then the event will be represent by 2. Then 1 the photon has 0 or nonlocality as its lower frame of reference but appears in 2 s event frames of reference as c light speed at one in the same moment.

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

Yes I follow that trixie. I can perhaps explain what i mean by using numbers. If a photon where to be represented by 1and nonlocality be represented by 0 and the event be represent by 2. Then 1 or the photon has 0 or nonlocality as its lower frame of reference but appears in 2 the event frames of reference as c light speed at one in the same moment.

That seems like what I said but I'm conducting more research atm. By event do you mean conscious perception?

So what you're saying is that it's in two places at the same time, and two places at two different times, or n places at n times, which is what my above text says as well.

[jackles]

Yes it the photon seems in reality to be not moving in a parallel universe that is super imposed on and creating the event and is sizeless. So the photons spacetime size which is c is staionary to it. The photon does not have speed in the nonlocal. Its almost as if the local event is spliced around a photon that dosnt move.? The sizeless dimension seems to be consciousness that the brain some how sources. So the photon moves in local event terms but dosnt in nonlocal and sizeless consciousness terms. Nonlocality seems to be consciouness.

[Cerveny]

Are photons local and nonlocal in the exact same way as spooky action.

In the real world there are no non-localities. If photon is "measured", it is always a particular "event" at a particular time in a particular place :(

[jackles]

Yes it the photon is apart of the local event with a place in that event but at one in the same it is relating to a nonlocal reference frame which is omni present to and creating the timespace for that very place to be in existance in. Its like normal spacetime is a holagram and its the photons reference frame thats causing the holagram to exist as place for the photon to exist in and to relate as c in that holagram. Wth out doubt the local event is caused by the nonlocal and omni present reference frame of the photon. The long and the short of it is the photon ref frame is certainty.

[Cerveny]

Photon must be seen as an event, not as a thing...

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

Yes it the photon seems in reality to be not moving in a parallel universe that is super imposed on and creating the event and is sizeless. So the photons spacetime size which is c is staionary to it. The photon does not have speed in the nonlocal. Its almost as if the local event is spliced around a photon that dosnt move.? The sizeless dimension seems to be consciousness that the brain some how sources. So the photon moves in local event terms but dosnt in nonlocal and sizeless consciousness terms. Nonlocality seems to be consciouness.

Makes sense