Instinct and reason?

[Blaggard]

I was thinking about something at some point, and it's no doubt none too clever but meh if you don't flex your arm then you're arm loses it's erm what's the word, agility. So anyway to get to the point and that is that a lot of what people do and the way they behave is somewhat encoded more in their genes than we might imagine. It's well known in science that humans have very few natural instincts that you can cite, ie that they have from birth, and that may well be true. Or is it as I suppose, is the sort of ecoding that goes on to produce instinct more prevalant than we might imagine, and more instinctual than we might like to admit? ( instinct AKA genetic memory, however you might want to dress up how behavioural patterns transcend the generations) is instinct still making us behave in ways that make us do things we may or may not.

For example, it's well known that human beings are very xenophobic, and have been in history, but this is placed down to social struggles, politics, resource struggles and so on, rather than of course territorial issues like there would be in the animal world; animals will defend a territory so as to promote their familial structure over an overlapping animal group who might move in to take over that area. And... I think you can see where this is going, are we really all that lacking in instinct or do we just have a bit of a big ego, and a will to explain things in terms of politics over nature? Because frankly if you look at the way humans behave it seems society is only a thin veneer pasted over animal instinct, and perhaps it might be more relevant to look at the animal kingdom and finally admit we are part of it more than we might like to think?

So are we really sure we are not just an animal with many behaviours we chose to explain away by societal means and put down to those, or are we just an instinctive animal who is making excuses that denote an arrogance, we should not perhaps have?

[vegetariantaxidermy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t03tIsBPj6Y

You didn't have any responses so I thought you might like this.

[uwot]

You didn't have any responses so I thought you might like this.

Actually, iMod had something to say, but thought better of it, presumably. Pity, I had quite a good joke lined up.

[Blaggard]

If you don't get responses it means no one is interested, which is not the end of the world. Hell I am not going to cry about no interest threads. I might of course write some powerfully worded diatribe to the Daily Mail, but then I am slightly mad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM3mOlERzQc

You didn't have any responses so I thought you might like this.

Actually, iMod had something to say, but thought better of it, presumably. Pity, I had quite a good joke lined up.

Imod had some comment lined up aww how sweet. Shame I could of stroked his head, rubbed his tummy and called him a good dog.

Incdentally there's no guilt in cat language you shit where you want to make a point. What there is though is shitting on another cats territory, and that means either a) you run like a cat and never look back ie you aren't prepared to put your money where you turd was, or b) you are stating that's my shit, deal with it, catterwaulling and a big fight may well commence or c) (most probably true in this case, because humans don't speak cat and thus to cats simpletons, well open the bloody back door then you dumb ape and stop chastising me for having to take a shit, in my own back yard, what are you retarded) so anyway suffice to say cats don't feel guilt they just do look what I did. Also if you look at that cats there you can see it, one they are both finding you very rude for looking straight at them, no animal likes that sort of challenge when they are faced with a remtard ape, and two, if you want some of this, we're still here, we can smell it, unless you fight us, all your base are belong to us. And even if you do rub our noses in it and fling us out of the back door it's perhaps an objext lesson in back door, and leave the fucker open you wittless simian.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

If you don't get responses it means no one is interested, which is not the end of the world. Hell I am not going to cry about no interest threads. I might of course write some powerfully worded diatribe to the Daily Mail, but then I am slightly mad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM3mOlERzQc

You didn't have any responses so I thought you might like this.

Actually, iMod had something to say, but thought better of it, presumably. Pity, I had quite a good joke lined up.

Imod had some comment lined up aww how sweet. Shame I could of stroked his head, rubbed his tummy and called him a good dog.

Incdentally there's no guilt in cat language you shit where you want to make a point. What there is though is shitting on another cats territory, and that means either a) you run like a cat and never look back ie you aren't prepared to put your money where you turd was, or b) you are stating that's my shit, deal with it, catterwaulking and a big fight may well commence or c) (most probably true in this case, because humans don't speak cat and thus to cats simpletons, well open the bloody back door then you dumb ape and stop chastising me for having to take a shit, in my own back yard, what are you retarded) so anyway suffice to say cats don't feel guilt they just do look what I did. Also if you look at that cats there you can see it, one they are both finding you very rude for looking straight at them, no animal likes that sort of challenge when they are faced with a remtard ape, and two, if you want some of this, we're still here, we can smell it, unless you fight us, all your base are belong to us.

I suppose you can read a cat's mind then. It's funny how quickly you can go off a person.

[Blaggard]

It was a joke, not meant to be taken seriously. It's funny how quick you can perhaps.

Suffice to say yes I can read minds, I am magic, look upon my amazing powers and weep, that's exactly what I meant, well done.


End of the day: I am catman hear me roar.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

It was a joke, not meant to be taken seriously. It's funny how quick you can perhaps.

Suffice to say yes I can read minds, I am magic, look upon my amazing powers and weep, that's exactly what I meant, well done.


End of the day: I am catman hear me roar.

If you change the thread to 'What's your favourite sexual position' then I'm sure you will get lots of responses. And of course humans go by instinct. Why would we be any different from every other animal on the planet? And cats feel everything we feel and then some.

[Blaggard]

Well it's not doggy style obviously.

And that's the point isn't it we are all ruled by instincts, but there seems to be a trend in science that says we have very few when in fact we have many, but just aren't willing to call a spade a spade, as if somehow by a miracle 3 million years of evolution did not leave a deep instinctual genome on us, we are apprently all relatively free of our genes. I think not, I argue to the contrary. And it is of course contentious.

[thedoc]

Imod had some comment lined up aww how sweet. Shame I could of stroked his head, rubbed his tummy and called him a good dog.

Incdentally there's no guilt in cat language you shit where you want to make a point. What there is though is shitting on another cats territory, and that means either a) you run like a cat and never look back ie you aren't prepared to put your money where you turd was, or b) you are stating that's my shit, deal with it, catterwaulling and a big fight may well commence or c) (most probably true in this case, because humans don't speak cat and thus to cats simpletons, well open the bloody back door then you dumb ape and stop chastising me for having to take a shit, in my own back yard, what are you retarded) so anyway suffice to say cats don't feel guilt they just do look what I did. Also if you look at that cats there you can see it, one they are both finding you very rude for looking straight at them, no animal likes that sort of challenge when they are faced with a remtard ape, and two, if you want some of this, we're still here, we can smell it, unless you fight us, all your base are belong to us. And even if you do rub our noses in it and fling us out of the back door it's perhaps an objext lesson in back door, and leave the fucker open you wittless simian.

This is pretty much why I don't have cats, and if someone was stupid enough to give me a cat, I'd be sure to have a 5 gallon bucket of water handy. Cats just can't learn to breath under water, for some reason, stupid cats.

[thedoc]

Well it's not doggy style obviously.

And that's the point isn't it we are all ruled by instincts, but there seems to be a trend in science that says we have very few when in fact we have many, but just aren't willing to call a spade a spade, as if somehow by a miracle 3 million years of evolution did not leave a deep instinctual genome on us, we are apprently all relatively free of our genes. I think not, I argue to the contrary. And it is of course contentious.

I'm not sure it's science as much as psychology and society that is trying to elevate man above the animals and claim that we do not live by instinct, religion is even worse about this. Elsewhere I posted that parents, in spite of what they think, do not teach their children very much. Babies already know how to crawl, and walk, (of course eating and breathing come first), talk, ride a bike, and many other things, go to potty. Parents don't really teach these things, the baby just has to develop the strength and co-ordination to do them. I'm glad I still have my instincts, or I would have been dead a long time ago.

BTW, I like doggy style.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Imod had some comment lined up aww how sweet. Shame I could of stroked his head, rubbed his tummy and called him a good dog.

Incdentally there's no guilt in cat language you shit where you want to make a point. What there is though is shitting on another cats territory, and that means either a) you run like a cat and never look back ie you aren't prepared to put your money where you turd was, or b) you are stating that's my shit, deal with it, catterwaulling and a big fight may well commence or c) (most probably true in this case, because humans don't speak cat and thus to cats simpletons, well open the bloody back door then you dumb ape and stop chastising me for having to take a shit, in my own back yard, what are you retarded) so anyway suffice to say cats don't feel guilt they just do look what I did. Also if you look at that cats there you can see it, one they are both finding you very rude for looking straight at them, no animal likes that sort of challenge when they are faced with a remtard ape, and two, if you want some of this, we're still here, we can smell it, unless you fight us, all your base are belong to us. And even if you do rub our noses in it and fling us out of the back door it's perhaps an objext lesson in back door, and leave the fucker open you wittless simian.

This is pretty much why I don't have cats, and if someone was stupid enough to give me a cat, I'd be sure to have a 5 gallon bucket of water handy. Cats just can't learn to breath under water, for some reason, stupid cats.

What a ****.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

If you don't get responses it means no one is interested, which is not the end of the world. Hell I am not going to cry about no interest threads. I might of course write some powerfully worded diatribe to the Daily Mail, but then I am slightly mad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM3mOlERzQc

You didn't have any responses so I thought you might like this.

Actually, iMod had something to say, but thought better of it, presumably. Pity, I had quite a good joke lined up.

Imod had some comment lined up aww how sweet. Shame I could of stroked his head, rubbed his tummy and called him a good dog.

Incdentally there's no guilt in cat language you shit where you want to make a point. What there is though is shitting on another cats territory, and that means either a) you run like a cat and never look back ie you aren't prepared to put your money where you turd was, or b) you are stating that's my shit, deal with it, catterwaulling and a big fight may well commence or c) (most probably true in this case, because humans don't speak cat and thus to cats simpletons, well open the bloody back door then you dumb ape and stop chastising me for having to take a shit, in my own back yard, what are you retarded) so anyway suffice to say cats don't feel guilt they just do look what I did. Also if you look at that cats there you can see it, one they are both finding you very rude for looking straight at them, no animal likes that sort of challenge when they are faced with a remtard ape, and two, if you want some of this, we're still here, we can smell it, unless you fight us, all your base are belong to us. And even if you do rub our noses in it and fling us out of the back door it's perhaps an objext lesson in back door, and leave the fucker open you wittless simian.

You obviously know nothing about cats. Their personalities are as varied as ours. I've never known a cat that doesn't like being looked at.

[Blaggard]

Oh for god's sake it was a joke. I am sure you can stare at any cat you like and they will love it. It was however not meant to be serious. I am sure if you gain the trust of a cat implicitly you can by pass the usual rules just as you can bypass the usual social rules in any animal community, I wouldn't try it with a gorrilla though I did not know. Because them fellas although generally less agressive than cats or indeed humans could tear me limb from limb if they so wanted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYWt6jBUZDc

Although in reality there are no mammals that like being stared at for no reason, it's actually pretty well known that most if not all animals including humans will take that as a challenge, it's after all rude to stare, and people do get annoyed by it ,staring for a reason however is of course part of the way any mammal offers up a challenge, and it can be used if there is good reason. But suffice to say that was just a joke and I really wish we could get back to the topic.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Oh for god's sake it was a joke. I am sure you can stare at any cat you like and they will love it. It was however not meant to be serious. I am sure if you gain the trust of a cat implicitly you can by pass the usual rules just as you can bypass the usual social rules in any animal community, I wouldn't try it with a gorrilla though I did not know. Because them fellas although generally less agressive than cats or indeed humans could tear me limb from limb if they so wanted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYWt6jBUZDc

Although in reality there are no mammals that like being stared at for no reason, it's actually pretty well known that most if not all animals including humans will take that as a challenge, it's after all rude to stare, and people do get annoyed by it. But suffice to say that was just a joke and I really wish we could get back to the topic.

'Joke: a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchline.'

And gorillas don't rip people to pieces. Only people rip people to pieces.

[Blaggard]

Oh for god's sake it was a joke. I am sure you can stare at any cat you like and they will love it. It was however not meant to be serious. I am sure if you gain the trust of a cat implicitly you can by pass the usual rules just as you can bypass the usual social rules in any animal community, I wouldn't try it with a gorrilla though I did not know. Because them fellas although generally less agressive than cats or indeed humans could tear me limb from limb if they so wanted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYWt6jBUZDc

Although in reality there are no mammals that like being stared at for no reason, it's actually pretty well known that most if not all animals including humans will take that as a challenge, it's after all rude to stare, and people do get annoyed by it. But suffice to say that was just a joke and I really wish we could get back to the topic.

'Joke: a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchline.'

And gorillas don't rip people to pieces. Only people rip people to pieces.

Yeah I said could, not did or not can and did do, but people have been killed by gorillas, probably because they didn't obey the basics laid down by people who studied gorillas, lie low, grunt, and do not for gods sake look them in the eyes.

You seem to have some weird fixation on this joke. I will of course refrain from making jokes in your presence in future as clearly, you don't like them. Fair enough. If you were here in my room now though I'd be looking you straight in the eyes, and not for no reason either. You're talking shit, and the expression on my face would no doubt enlighten you as to that fact.

Whilst I love the fact that you have animal issues, could you perhaps start a new thread about how you can do the animal thing, and how wrong I am. Because it's kinda off topic.