Thomas

[Hjarloprillar]

" Split a piece of wood, and I am there. Lift a stone, and you will find me there."

While i'm not religious. If this is not 'science' then what is?

Mans search for meaning is to split the wood and lift the stone.
And use reason to reveal that the truth is in the details.

The path to understanding is not in 'buildings of stone and wood.'
[allusion to church]

But inquiry, imagination and passion.

too late
At a bus stop today i saw 8-10 people all glued to mobiles.
networked into the 'hive mind'
woe
for the hive dos not want ' inquiry, imagination and passion' in its sheeple.
7.5 billion and rising.

Imagine Jesus suddenly time hops to now.
He might comment
"this is a joke, right?"

Prill

[Blaggard]

That is heresy if God cannot be found in the church he can be found nowhere.

The Catholic Church would probably kill to keep such wisdom secret, and no doubt have. It undermines just about everything the Church stands for. They should make a film about it.

And no his comment would be this is pretty much what I foresaw when I said many false prophets will come after actually considering he is omniscient like his father.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkPgYbdQ1kQ

This is priceless:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70IAwHTzrHI

[jackles]

this is a referance to nonlocality as consciousness.the sizeless unmoving omni present one.

[Hjarloprillar]

The Catholic Church would probably kill to keep such wisdom secret, and no doubt have. It undermines just about everything the Church stands for. They should make a film about it.

Blaggard

The Holy Grail 'neath ancient Roslin waits.
The blade and chalice guarding o'er her gates.
Adorned in masters' loving art, She lies.
She rests at last beneath the starry skies.

the code, based on earlier works of scholars.
True or false i care not

This, is what makes catholicism fascinating.
A thousand years of glory and woe.
because one man spoke REASON, the tool of science.

I love jesus because he had guts

[Blaggard]

The Catholic Church would probably kill to keep such wisdom secret, and no doubt have. It undermines just about everything the Church stands for. They should make a film about it.

Blaggard

The Holy Grail 'neath ancient Roslin waits.
The blade and chalice guarding o'er her gates.
Adorned in masters' loving art, She lies.
She rests at last beneath the starry skies.

the code, based on earlier works of scholars.
True or false i care not

This, is what makes catholicism fascinating.
A thousand years of glory and woe.
because one man spoke REASON, the tool of science.

I love jesus because he had guts

He did have big balls it's true, assuming he existed, which is something some contend with. The Catholic church doesn't and hasn't followed the simple message though so they are fair game.

[Blaggard]

this is a referance to nonlocality as consciousness.the sizeless unmoving omni present one.

No it's not it's a reference to the opposite, Jesus is as ubiquitous as God omnipresent. What it says is only that. Politically speaking though it is obviously dangerous because if you don't have a church and clergy between God then the Church becomes redundant. This is a gnostic type of quote saying that Jesus is everywhere and can be in everyone.

[jackles]

i am well aware of what it is and what it means.and the gnostics are correct and so was the church.everything is as it should be.but the gnostics are technicaly correct jesus is the nonlocal teacher in locations.

[Blaggard]

i am well aware of what it is and what it means.and the gnostics are correct and so was the church.everything is as it should be.but the gnostics are technicaly correct jesus is the nonlocal teacher in locations.

Yes you keep saying contradictions like he exists everywhere but is local and so on, it makes no sense at all.

Cognitive dissonance is not really a wise course of action in trying to explain your strangeness? You seem obsessed with this idea of non local without actually understanding what it means, and thus logically what you are saying is just a paradox. Mind you so is most of religion, it's pretty contradictory at the best of times, so knock yourself out, I am still going to challenge nonsense arguments though if you don't mind, yours or anyone elses.

[Hjarloprillar]

i am well aware of what it is and what it means.and the gnostics are correct and so was the church.everything is as it should be.but the gnostics are technicaly correct jesus is the nonlocal teacher in locations.

Yes you keep saying contradictions like he exists everywhere but is local and so on, it makes no sense at all.

Blaggard

Agree. I don't understand the 'local' bit.
Of course i understand what local and non local is but applied by jackles it has a meaning i think only he can comprehend if at all.
locality=place
could it be he says jesus is simply a teacher whose teachings spread from from initial 'saying' to all locations.
There are far easier ways to say it if so.

[jackles]

jesuses consciousness was nonlocaly situated.when he talked to his disiples there consciouses where localised by there upbringing in a certain locality on earth.they the diciples thought that they were israilites a local identity.he jesus imformed them of there nonlocal identity.christianity is nonlocal identity.

[Hjarloprillar]

jesuses consciousness was nonlocaly situated.when he talked to his disiples there consciouses where localised by there upbringing in a certain locality on earth.they the diciples thought that they were israilites a local identity.he jesus imformed them of there nonlocal identity.christianity is nonlocal identity.

'His message was for all humanity'
[nonlocal]

yet 1700 years later the Chinese for example had never heard of him.
[maybe he needed more cell towers]

[jackles]

hjar i think you got the right idea.there is no real difference between what jesus was saying about nonlocality(love) and buddism or zen.you got it hjar i know you got it.regs jackles

[Blaggard]

jesuses consciousness was nonlocaly situated.when he talked to his disiples there consciouses where localised by there upbringing in a certain locality on earth.they the diciples thought that they were israilites a local identity.he jesus imformed them of there nonlocal identity.christianity is nonlocal identity.

'His message was for all humanity'
[nonlocal]

yet 1700 years later the Chinese for example had never heard of him.
[maybe he needed more cell towers]

That's not true Dutch and English missionaries of all denominations had spread Christianity long before the 17th century so if someone hadn't heard of the new Roman God Christ Jesus they must of been either deaf or blind.

China has a large community of Christians as does every other Eastern country, alright it is a minor religion in the East but you only have to watch mini series like Shogun to see the church swanning around in the back of the scenery, I know it's not a history, but it is definitely true that proselytising was a big part of Jesus message. In actual fact Christianity had been imported to China in the 7th century by trade missions, ie missionaries and trade envoys so...

[Hjarloprillar]

Blag
quote
"so if someone hadn't heard of the new Roman God Christ Jesus"

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what? didn't the Romans skewer Christ with the "spear of longinus?"
i think Catholicism is a guilt trip. they killed Christ and have been trying to make everyone forget for 2 millennia

the concept of roman god is not, nonlocal. it's power on earth dictated by old men in the vatican

[Blaggard]

It's not called Roman Catholicism for nothing, Emperor Constantine converted in the 4th century and it's been Roman ever since then it schizmed into Orthodox situated in Byzantium and Jerusalem and Holy Roman Empire situated mostly in Rome, but sometimes in Germany and France.