Tenzin Gyatso - Beyond the World's Religions

[Bill Wiltrack]

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[abepat]

very very true

[Greylorn Ell]

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"Digital Universe -- Analog Soul" does that.

[HexHammer]

This wise ass lama didn't have a damn clue if the recent Iraq war was legit or not, didn't infact have a clue about anything about the Iraq war, though he had sitten for a long interview and spoken about aaaaaallll the wise things he knew.

What an utterly useless man.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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... Iraq war was legit or not...

Can you help me out with that one?




I don't know much at all about Tenzin Gyatso.

Perhaps he had a reason...perhaps his opinion about the war, or any other subject is not that important.

There is an outside world and an inside world. So to speak.


Perhaps he is illuminating about inside-world types of thingies?






I am a simple Buddhist monk - no more, no less.
~ Tenzin Gyatso, 14th Dalai Lama ~



This is my simple religion. There is no need for temples; no need for complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the philosophy is kindness.
~ Tenzin Gyatso, 14th Dalai Lama ~

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[Greylorn Ell]

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I am a simple Buddhist monk - no more, no less.
~ Tenzin Gyatso, 14th Dalai Lama ~

I've met simple Buddhist monks in Thailand and here in the U.S, up the road from my house. None of them have been invited to appear on multiple U.S. TV talk shows and other personal appearances.

Thus he is another liar on the liberal-socialist stage, every bit as clever as Obama, or he is a complete idiot.

This is my simple religion. There is no need for temples; no need for complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the philosophy is kindness.
~ Tenzin Gyatso, 14th Dalai Lama[/size] ~

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Without an elaborate, complex, and internally confused religion that dominates several Asian cultures and has spread its tentacles of arcane belief throughout the world-- a religion whose many costly temples dot the lines that mark its path-- the 14th Dalai Lama would just be an ordinary liberal-progressive Tibetan farmer.

He has the mind of a simple-minded farmer, and would be unable to compete in a major farming system. Brains and hearts are brains and hearts, not temples. Kindness is a way of getting along,, not a philosophy. The man is a dolt who has been trained in the art of sucking up to people who are dumb enough to believe that he is the incarnation of Siddartha Gautama, despite showing up on planet earth with about one tenth of S. G's intellect and insight.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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[Ginkgo]

On this basis Greylorn we can take it you don't have a very high opinion of subsistence farmers who are liberal progressives.

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Already been done Tenzin me old mucker, its called Western Philosophy and in it the bit you're chatting about is called Ethics and Morals.

[Greylorn Ell]

On this basis Greylorn we can take it you don't have a very high opinion of subsistence farmers who are liberal progressives.

I have an extremely high opinion of farmers, and have hung out with some of them when I lived in farm country. As a kid I worked on small farms with these people. Weeding and picking fields was my first source of income. That was hard work. So not only do I appreciate good food, I know what it takes to bring forth that food, and I have nothing but respect for the men and women who run small family farms. (Corporate farms, not so much.)

Back then I knew of a couple of farmers who were staunch Democrats, but that was well before the socialists co-opted the Democrat Party. Most people are not cognizant of the agenda of a particular political party, or of particular candidates. They will vote stupidly, even contrary to their own long-term self-interest. If I knew of a farmer today who had voted for B.O., even the first time, I'd avoid him on the grounds that he is either an ignorant or stupid person, or both.

So let's not create any kind of connection between my opinions about farmers and those about liberal progressives. I've known some smart farmers.

[Greylorn Ell]

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Already been done Tenzin me old mucker, its called Western Philosophy and in it the bit you're chatting about is called Ethics and Morals.

The DL has missed the mark, again. What is the point of examining spirituality and ethics, when we do not understand the fundamental nature of beings, ourselves, to whom we seek to apply them?

What kind Dalai Lama has been reincarnated 14 times yet returns to life with no better comprehension of the core nature of mankind than modern Buddhism? I'd say, a complete phony, an ordinary person, a philosophically ignorant spiritual shmoo who has learned to convert meaningless platitudes into a free lunch.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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“Whether one is rich or poor, educated or illiterate, religious or nonbelieving, man or woman, black, white, or brown, we are all the same.

Physically, emotionally, and mentally, we are all equal.

We all share basic needs for food, shelter, safety, and love.

We all aspire to happiness and we all shun suffering. Each of us has hopes, worries, fears, and dreams.

Each of us wants the best for our family and loved ones. We all experience pain when we suffer loss and joy when we achieve what we seek.

On this fundamental level, religion, ethnicity, culture, and language make no difference.”

― Dalai Lama XIV, Toward a True Kinship of Faiths: How the World's Religions Can Come Together






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[Greylorn Ell]

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“Whether one is rich or poor, educated or illiterate, religious or nonbelieving, man or woman, black, white, or brown, we are all the same.

Physically, emotionally, and mentally, we are all equal.

We all share basic needs for food, shelter, safety, and love.

We all aspire to happiness and we all shun suffering. Each of us has hopes, worries, fears, and dreams.

Each of us wants the best for our family and loved ones. We all experience pain when we suffer loss and joy when we achieve what we seek.

On this fundamental level, religion, ethnicity, culture, and language make no difference.”

― Dalai Lama XIV, Toward a True Kinship of Faiths: How the World's Religions Can Come Together

This nonsense could only be spoken by a nincompoop who has lived his entire life in never-never land, and who likes it there. Printing this fool's statements in large, highlighted text does not make them sensible.

Greylorn

[Arising_uk]

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“Whether one is rich or poor, educated or illiterate, religious or nonbelieving, man or woman, black, white, or brown, we are all the same.

Apart from being rich or poor, educated or illiterate, religious or atheistic, a man or a women, or being black or white or brown or yellow or red that is.

Physically, emotionally, and mentally, we are all equal.

Some are more or less physically stronger than others, some are more or less emotional than others, and "mentally' is too vague a term to make much sense. So no, we are not all equal as if we were then there'd be no need for for any of the above words.

We all share basic needs for food, shelter, safety, and love.

Definitely the first three, as Maslow described, but "love" again is too vague a term, Maslow did it better.

We all aspire to happiness and we all shun suffering. Each of us has hopes, worries, fears, and dreams.

True, so what?

Each of us wants the best for our family and loved ones.

And some want it at the cost of the worst for others, a few appear to not want this at all.

We all experience pain when we suffer loss and joy when we achieve what we seek.

True, what of it?

On this fundamental level, religion, ethnicity, culture, and language make no difference

On this fundamental level religion, ethnicity, culture, and language make all the difference as its these things that prescribe and proscribe all the above.

― Dalai Lama XIV, Toward a True Kinship of Faiths: How the World's Religions Can Come Together[/size]

Because he follows what is essentially a philosophy and not a religion he does not appear to understand that the theist religions can never come together in the way he wishes as by their very definition they cannot accommodate others religions.