~ Republicans Are Traitors ~

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Bill Maher did something that the mainstream media won’t. He made the case that the Republican obstruction of Obama has crossed over into treason.


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Bill Maher: What about trying to repeal it for the 37th time? Is that a wise use of our resources and time? I mean, at some point obstruction becomes I don’t know, treason. They’ve also blocked Obama’s head of the EPA. There’s no head of the circuit court in DC. At some point, it becomes more about hating him than loving their country.

Michael Moore: No. They hate America. That’s what it is.

Maher: They hate America?

Moore: Yeah, I think these conservatives and right wingers really, for as much as they say they love this country. They hate it. They hate the government. They hate the people.

Maher: Those are really two different things, aren’t they?

Moore: No. Well it shouldn’t be, the government is supposed to be of, for, and by the people. Right? So why is the government the big evil bastard here?

Maher: Cause Merica got taken over by a Kenyan socialist. That’s why… That’s why we need our guns. We might have to take over the government.

Maher and Moore’s discussion brings up an interesting point. Republicans started out by hating this president. Their hate was reflected in obstruction. By obstructing and opposing everything that this president has tried to accomplish, Republicans created the perception that they hate government. Since the American people, not only elect the government, but count on the government to provide safety and security, obstruction has created the perception that Republicans hate the American people.

The mainstream media is so busy treating Obama hate and conspiracy theories as a legitimate point of view that they never stop to consider whether or not they are playing a role in damaging the country. The media loves to talk about the dysfunction in Washington, but they will never acknowledge the role that they continue to play in legitimizing Republican obstruction.

The media is so terrified of the right that they will never bring up the fact that congressional Republicans have violated their oaths of office by refusing to do the duties that they were elected to carry out. This behavior has gotten so extreme that Republicans have taken to boycotting committee hearings for Obama nominees.

Treason is the act of willfully attempting to overthrow the government. All the recent Republican talk of Obama impeachment certainly looks like an attempt to overthrow the elected government, but I think one of the definitions of traitor also fits what Maher and Moore discussed.

A traitor is,
“One who betrays another’s trust or is false to an obligation or duty.” Republicans have definitely betrayed the trust of the American people, and have been false to their sworn duties.








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The government, the corporations, and the media are on the same side, and against you. Republicans are democrats and vise versa. Politics is simulation, they are pretending to be politicians. Power has moved, gone elsewhere. Yet the simulation continues so that the people will not get suspicious. They want you to believe that it still matters. It is a rigged spectacle. Turn away from all of it. Mahler is part of the system.
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EXTREMELY well done.


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Oh my god thanks so much! Captain Condescendence.
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I don't know that I'd go so far as to say they were traitors. Traitors of what? Is not the government, as Moore said, of, by and for the people, such that it, the government is aqueous, changing, as in, with the people of which it's comprised. They are the people as well. I guess the real question is whether the republicans actually represent the majority of the population. If they do, then they're not traitors, if on the other hand they are not, then I guess they are. Of course in order for this to be understood either way, all people would have to completely understand the truthful in's and out's of Obama-care. And I'm sure there are a lot of misinformed people out there.
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There is no politics. You are talking about something that is not. Why waste your time. Turn away, it doesn't deserve your attention.
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SpheresOfBalance wrote: And I'm sure there are a lot of misinformed people out there.
Would you include yourself.
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" It is rather the same thing that is happening to the English language. It becomes ugly and inaccurate because our thoughts are foolish, but the slovenliness of our language makes it easier for us to have foolish thoughts."
https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm

Instead of expressing an immediate thoughtless agreement with an assertion , an intelligent assessment of the Maher and Moore claim of 'treason' should begin with a common definition of the word. Consider http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/treason .

Since treason is also a legal concept, one could seek its meaning in Black's Law Dictionary. http://thelawdictionary.org/treason/ :


What is TREASON?
The offense of attempting to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance; or of betraying the state into the hands of a for- eign power. Webster. In England, treason is an offense particularly directed against tbe person of the sov- ereign, and consists (1) in ...

Law Dictionary: What is TREASON? definition of TREASON (Black's Law Dictionary) http://thelawdictionary.org/treason/#ixzz2Tn0N5D21

And, finally, to dispel the "foolish thoughts", one could consult the definition of treason in the US Constitution, which Maher and Moore are apparently ignorant of. http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A3Sec3.html

Our government is a federal system consisting of checks and balances. Fortunately, the Republicans currently control of the House of Representatives and thus serve as a check on the machinations of the Obama regime.

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After reading this post and understanding those terms, I now agree with Maher & Moore.






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Pluto wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote: And I'm sure there are a lot of misinformed people out there.
Would you include yourself.
What did you have in mind? I was referring to Obamacare.
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tbieter wrote:" It is rather the same thing that is happening to the English language. It becomes ugly and inaccurate because our thoughts are foolish, but the slovenliness of our language makes it easier for us to have foolish thoughts."
https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm

Instead of expressing an immediate thoughtless agreement with an assertion , an intelligent assessment of the Maher and Moore claim of 'treason' should begin with a common definition of the word. Consider http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/treason .

Since treason is also a legal concept, one could seek its meaning in Black's Law Dictionary. http://thelawdictionary.org/treason/ :


What is TREASON?
The offense of attempting to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance; or of betraying the state into the hands of a for- eign power. Webster. In England, treason is an offense particularly directed against tbe person of the sov- ereign, and consists (1) in ...

Law Dictionary: What is TREASON? definition of TREASON (Black's Law Dictionary) http://thelawdictionary.org/treason/#ixzz2Tn0N5D21

And, finally, to dispel the "foolish thoughts", one could consult the definition of treason in the US Constitution, which Maher and Moore are apparently ignorant of. http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A3Sec3.html

Our government is a federal system consisting of checks and balances. Fortunately, the Republicans currently control of the House of Representatives and thus serve as a check on the machinations of the Obama regime.

After reading various bits within this thread, I now firmly see humans as psychotic monkeys, for the most part, or rather, at least that part that would call themselves rulers, authorities and leaders. Where their psychosis, is easily seen, in the expression of the greed, for money and power, as their false words, attempt to convey otherwise.


Could someone please help me? I heard an metaphor a while back during a television show covering an election. I could be wrong, but the metaphor gave me an inkling of meaning which I took to mean something along the lines of a double edged sword, but not exactly, in this case I understood it to mean, to use words to convey support for something that a majority might agree upon, while in fact the one using those words had a completely different ends in mind, one that served his self interests, (like that, that I try to convey, in the above paragraph). If I remember correctly it had either the word lamb or sheep in it. And no, it wasn't, 'a wolf in sheep's clothing.' I have been unable to find it on the web. Anyone have any ideas? Thank You!
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SpheresOfBalance wrote:Where their psychosis, is easily seen, in the expression of the greed, for money and power, as their false words, attempt to convey otherwise.
Only a dyed-in-the-wool socialist could come up with that crap.
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bobevenson wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:Where their psychosis, is easily seen, in the expression of the greed, for money and power, as their false words, attempt to convey otherwise.
Only a dyed-in-the-wool socialist could come up with that crap.
Son, you can try to pigeon-hole me, in what ever way, your limited mind, can fathom.
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SpheresOfBalance wrote:
bobevenson wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:Where their psychosis, is easily seen, in the expression of the greed, for money and power, as their false words, attempt to convey otherwise.
Only a dyed-in-the-wool socialist could come up with that crap.
Son, you can try to pigeon-hole me, in what ever way, your limited mind, can fathom.
Please, are you trying to say that you're not a socialist, but rather a free-market capitalist?
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SpheresOfBalance wrote:Where their psychosis, is easily seen, in the expression of the greed, for money and power, as their false words, attempt to convey otherwise.
bobevenson wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:
bobevenson wrote:Only a dyed-in-the-wool socialist could come up with that crap.
Son, you can try to pigeon-hole me, in what ever way, your limited mind, can fathom.
Please, are you trying to say that you're not a socialist, but rather a free-market capitalist?
I'm saying, that nothing you could possibly understand, is where my head is.

Where you've failed with me, is your self proclaimed status as a prophet, here are lyrics to a song, that I see are necessarily true: "If I claim to be a wise man, it surely means that I don't know." Also your endless talk of your ozso prophecy, which primarily references a game, that you've failed to market, speaks to me, of one that is bitter, because he's unable to capitalize, on ideas, that people see as BS. You should have sold a pet-rock instead, he made over a million. No wonder you scream socialist, and other such buzz words all the time, as you'll scream anything, so as to deny the truth, of your problems.
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