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So let them suffer!Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:57 pmHamas will not. You could try the Israelis, but so long as Hamas will not, they cannot either.bahman wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:40 pmIt is also a solution if both parties understand and submit to it.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:36 pm
Not necessarily so "wise." It tells us about the problem, but has no solution.
Without a solution, that's what is happening. But you have no solution, and nobody else has proposed one that works either. So that is what is happening.bahman wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:00 pmSo let them suffer!Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:57 pmHamas will not. You could try the Israelis, but so long as Hamas will not, they cannot either.
War has been an unavoidable thing in the history of humans. What is the reason? Stupidity.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:02 pmWithout a solution, that's what is happening. But you have no solution, and nobody else has proposed one that works either. So that is what is happening.bahman wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:00 pmSo let them suffer!Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:57 pm
Hamas will not. You could try the Israelis, but so long as Hamas will not, they cannot either.
But now I can't see what you're complaining about. You're getting exactly what your lack of a solution would lead you to expect.
How does that help us in the case of Israel and Hamas?bahman wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:06 pmWar has been an unavoidable thing in the history of humans. What is the reason? Stupidity.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:02 pmWithout a solution, that's what is happening. But you have no solution, and nobody else has proposed one that works either. So that is what is happening.
But now I can't see what you're complaining about. You're getting exactly what your lack of a solution would lead you to expect.
And we pretend that both the perpetrators who started and kept the thing going, and the people who were forced into a war and then can't get out of it are morally and intellectually equal? Solution? Elect a wise leader as a wise leader never starts a war. People choose unwise leaders. Why? Because they are unwise as well. Proper education is what we need.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:09 pmHow does that help us in the case of Israel and Hamas?bahman wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:06 pmWar has been an unavoidable thing in the history of humans. What is the reason? Stupidity.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:02 pm
Without a solution, that's what is happening. But you have no solution, and nobody else has proposed one that works either. So that is what is happening.
But now I can't see what you're complaining about. You're getting exactly what your lack of a solution would lead you to expect.
We call both sides "stupid," do we?
And that's supposed to help the situation?
The Gaza war is a complex and ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas, the militant group that controls the Gaza Strip. There is no simple or definitive answer to what the solution to the Gaza war is, as different parties have different interests, demands, and perspectives on the situation. However, some possible steps that could contribute to a peaceful resolution are:
A lasting and comprehensive ceasefire that ends the violence and allows humanitarian aid to reach the civilians in Gaza.
A political dialogue that addresses the root causes of the conflict, such as the Israeli occupation, the blockade of Gaza, the Palestinian division, and the status of Jerusalem.
A regional and international involvement that supports the peace process and holds the parties accountable for their actions and commitments.
A reconstruction and development plan that rebuilds the infrastructure and economy of Gaza and improves the living conditions of its people.
These are some of the ideas that have been proposed by various actors, such as the United Nations1, the Arab League2, and the Center for Strategic and International Studies3. However, they also face many challenges and obstacles, such as the lack of trust and willingness to compromise, the influence of external actors, the internal divisions and instability, and the human rights violations and war crimes. Therefore, the solution to the Gaza war requires a sustained and collective effort from all sides to end the cycle of violence and achieve a just and lasting peace.
Interesting! An AI is wiser than people!phyllo wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:19 pm I asked Bing Chat with GPT-4.
What is the solution to the Gaza war?
The Gaza war is a complex and ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas, the militant group that controls the Gaza Strip. There is no simple or definitive answer to what the solution to the Gaza war is, as different parties have different interests, demands, and perspectives on the situation. However, some possible steps that could contribute to a peaceful resolution are:
A lasting and comprehensive ceasefire that ends the violence and allows humanitarian aid to reach the civilians in Gaza.
A political dialogue that addresses the root causes of the conflict, such as the Israeli occupation, the blockade of Gaza, the Palestinian division, and the status of Jerusalem.
A regional and international involvement that supports the peace process and holds the parties accountable for their actions and commitments.
A reconstruction and development plan that rebuilds the infrastructure and economy of Gaza and improves the living conditions of its people.
These are some of the ideas that have been proposed by various actors, such as the United Nations1, the Arab League2, and the Center for Strategic and International Studies3. However, they also face many challenges and obstacles, such as the lack of trust and willingness to compromise, the influence of external actors, the internal divisions and instability, and the human rights violations and war crimes. Therefore, the solution to the Gaza war requires a sustained and collective effort from all sides to end the cycle of violence and achieve a just and lasting peace.
The AI just reflects what people have been writing. It's a mirror.Interesting! An AI is wiser than people!
Nothing personal, but I find everything about you thoroughly obnoxious and somewhat two-faced, layered with a kind of saccharin superiority.Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:50 pmGood, you agree. I also thought my assertion was reasonable.
Now the question is about Palestinians supporting the military attack tactics of Hamas, or not. And my impression is that there is a culture of support of that violent militancy. As well as pride. And I’ve also got the impression that the so-called Arab street responds favorably to violent, militant actions.
It remains to be seen how Gazans react to the intensity of Israel’s counter attack.
Some additional food for thought, Señor Grumpy:
Am I just grumpy, or is it something else?
Perhaps you could avoid — or delay? — posting here when that characteristic bitchiness has a grip on you? Do you feel any better, I mean really? when you lose your cool and erupt?
The extreme one-sided binary positions do not represent what the majority of people think.
Isn't that the solution?promethean75 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:31 pm Lol that gpt-4 basically just analyzed everything it's read on the internet about the conflict, isolated what content in that reading pertained to your question type 'solution', and then wrote a brief synopsis of that material.
Ask Hal if Hamas is safe from the iron dome if they fly in on motorized paragliders.
