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Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:42 pm Too tiresome to sort through your reaction Dubious. My view is that we need — we require — a more studied, a more depth analysis of the will of resistance in the ME world. Your post amounts to a tirade, not much more. That is fine if that is your object. It will not in my view produce understanding.

And slaughtering whole families. Burning people alive. Forcing mothers to see their children tortured and murdered. It's obscene, and obscene that people like sculptor and others on here don't give a shit.

The outcome was exactly what Hamas wanted. Every Gazan death is at the hands of Hamas--not Israel. The Hamas leadership doesn't give a fuck about Gazans.

Another example of sheer reaction. It won’t help us.

Your response is the kind IC would usually make when he doesn't know how to reply. Your debating techniques are not so unlike his. If you think I'm exonerating the historical travesties of the Jews against the Palestinians - being also a matter of historical record - you'd be dead wrong.

Nevertheless, it's beyond pathetic that the will to resistance in the ME should make itself apparent in such a disgusting manner. If you're going to make war against Israel, attack its armies, its military and not a bunch of defenseless concert goers whose crime, aside from being Jewish, was to have a good time!

It seems in all your grand wisdom, you can't tell the difference!

...what if ALL of it is just a shower of shit to the senses?

What would you all PHILOSOPHERS think then?




Israel Isreal?

..who would U all get pissed off with next?

I gather the question is rhetorical!

..such a quest should not exist only "rhetorically" in philosophy.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:21 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:41 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:35 am

So where were the hostages that the US was trying to get back?

Special pleading. People were jumping from the WTC because they knew they were dead either way. Can you imagine how horrible a choice like that must be? Are we going to start arguing that after a certain point of morbid and gruesome, it's OK to be equally morbid and gruesome in return? Pull yourself together. Military solutions aren't. You were on the right track once upon a time. What happened? Are you going to pull out the sign "support our troops"? Are you going to argue that torture is justified because there COULD CONCEIVABLY be a ticking bomb somewhere that the torture victim is holding out on his captors over?

What the fuck are you on about?

Evasion.

Dubious wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 1:18 pm It seems in all your grand wisdom, you can't tell the difference!

Oh I think I can well distinguish the difference.

And I definitely know how to reply.

I have not engaged in debate with you. And I do not think you are really interested in debate as exchange of perspectives or comparison of perspectives. You’ve only made emotional statements: reactive.

If you think I'm exonerating the historical travesties of the Jews against the Palestinians - being also a matter of historical record - you'd be dead wrong.

Definitely a better position to start from than Veggie’s.

What do you think of Norman Finkelstein’s views that he doesn’t condone Hamas extreme violence, but he understands it?

Nevertheless, it's beyond pathetic that the will to resistance in the ME should make itself apparent in such a disgusting manner. If you're going to make war against Israel, attack its armies, its military and not a bunch of defenseless concert goers whose crime, aside from being Jewish, was to have a good time!

Here you indicate you are unaware of the full scope of the 1,500-2,000 man operation.

There is a depth analysis by the Times that goes into the full picture.

You also seem unaware that Hamas is not fighting against Jews but against Israelis.

Stop wasting our time Jacobi.

As an aside: how can empathy be 'fraudulent'?? It is what it is. You can say that someone is 'pretending to be empathetic', but to say that 'empathy is fraudulent' is nonsensical. Poor guy must be American. They have a lot of trouble with the English language.

From what I can make out, Israel has been busy building an amazing country for the past 70 years, while Gazans have been busy building tunnels and buying weapons and making its leaders unimaginably rich--all while getting more and more jealous and bitter over the country that's known as Israel, and especially bitter and jealous of the arabs who had the good sense to remain and help build the said amazing country of Israel.
Imagine what the Gazans could have done with all those billions in aid instead of spending it on weapons and corrupt leaders.
The entire 'Palestinian' argument is a load of bullshit from beginning to end.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:21 pm As an aside: how can empathy be 'fraudulent'?? It is what it is. You can say that someone is 'pretending to be empathetic', but to say that 'empathy is fraudulent' is nonsensical. Poor guy must be American. They have a lot of trouble with the English language.

U just beat everyone on the forum to the year 2024...and that's all ya got?

ps. I was second IMO opinion.

pps. Americans piss everyone off and they all wish we spoke USAdian...but ya DONT ya speak a very fucked up form of English.

So suck this Englishman's COCK (the wizard of Oz)

HAPPY 2024!!

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:37 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:21 pm As an aside: how can empathy be 'fraudulent'?? It is what it is. You can say that someone is 'pretending to be empathetic', but to say that 'empathy is fraudulent' is nonsensical. Poor guy must be American. They have a lot of trouble with the English language.

U just beat everyone on the forum to the year 2024...and that's all ya got?

ps. I was second IMO opinion.

pps. Americans piss everyone off and they all wish we spoke USAdian...but ya DONT ya speak a very fucked up form of English.

So suck this Englishman's COCK (the wizard of Oz)

HAPPY 2024!!

It's nice that you think numbers can be happy. What about 'unhappy 2024'? That would be more realistic don't you think?

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:42 pm It's nice that you think numbers can be happy. What about 'unhappy 2024'? That would be more realistic don't you think?

I honestly only understand the question (of miserable kunts) when I am sober.

Ergo, I will check tomorrow after 100 cups of tea.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:45 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:42 pm It's nice that you think numbers can be happy. What about 'unhappy 2024'? That would be more realistic don't you think?

I honestly only understand the question (of miserable kunts) when I am sober.

Ergo, I will check tomorrow after 100 cups of tea.

Are you ever sober? I think not.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:51 pm

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:45 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:42 pm It's nice that you think numbers can be happy. What about 'unhappy 2024'? That would be more realistic don't you think?

I honestly only understand the question (of miserable kunts) when I am sober.

Ergo, I will check tomorrow after 100 cups of tea.

Are you ever sober? I think not.

..by about 99 cups of tea I get to the point where I real eyes..indeed, I am surrounded by a planet of stupid miserable kunts. Then I have my 100th cup of tea and start drinking coffee (with whiskey)


99 of 'em
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiwgOWo7mDc

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:55 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:51 pm

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:45 pm

I honestly only understand the question (of miserable kunts) when I am sober.

Ergo, I will check tomorrow after 100 cups of tea.

Are you ever sober? I think not.

..by about 99 cups of tea I get to the point where I real eyes..indeed, I am surrounded by a planet of stupid miserable kunts. Then I have my 100th cup of tea and start drinking coffee (with whiskey)


99 of 'em
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiwgOWo7mDc

Whatever gets you through life.