Re: The Cult of Philosophy
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2022 8:45 am
For the discussion of all things philosophical.
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LOL you REALLY ARE A VERY STUPID LITTLE one "atla".
See, now you were even denying to have written that very previous comment. First you lie, then you call someone else little and stupid because of it.
LOLAtla wrote: ↑Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:02 amSee, now you were even denying to have written that very previous comment. First you lie, then you call someone else little and stupid because of it.
Because knowing the answer comes before asking the question. True answers are ALWAYS incredibly simple. It is the conditions that people place on their thinking that causes the complexities [and confusion] to arise.
Everything that doesn't involve thinking.Ansiktsburk wrote: ↑Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:08 am The thinking as such is a pretty powerful force and what discipline than philosophy comes closer to that?
So, if I ask a "specialist" on outer solar-system planetary systems about, for example, 'What is it out there?", then how exactly is what you CLAIM here, true?simplicity wrote: ↑Sat Feb 19, 2022 11:54 pmBecause knowing the answer comes before asking the question.
What I like to SAY and CLAIM is; ANY and ALL 'meaningful' answers are ALREADY, instinctively, KNOWN, deep within, but which are NOT YET KNOWN, consciously. However, when one LEARNS and UNDERSTANDS HOW to find ALL True answers, then the 'meaningful answers' in Life can and do become consciously KNOWN, almost instantaneously.
I prefer to just say that it is 'thinking', itself, which causes the CONFUSION, and BLOCKS and PREVENTS the KNOWING from ARISING and COMING-TO-LIGHT. 'thinking', itself, is what and who 'you', human beings, are, by the way. 'KNOWING' is what and who 'I', of which there is ONLY One of.simplicity wrote: ↑Sat Feb 19, 2022 11:54 pm It is the conditions that people place on their thinking that causes the complexities [and confusion] to arise.
Because he doesn't know and you know that he doesn't know.
Yes, the child knows that the clergy-person does not know.
No, what you intuitively know is that 99.999...% of knowledge is un-grasp-able even if your conscious mind refuses to accept such a proposition. For simple questions such as the ice cream I prefer, you assumed that I like ice cream. Why? We make assumptions all the time that have no basis what-so-ever in Reality.
What are you going on about here now?simplicity wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 1:56 amBecause he doesn't know and you know that he doesn't know.
You, ONCE AGAIN, appear to have completely and utterly MISSED what is going on here.simplicity wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 1:56 amYes, the child knows that the clergy-person does not know.
I do NOT 'intuitively know' this AT ALL.simplicity wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 1:56 amNo, what you intuitively know is that 99.999...% of knowledge is un-grasp-able even if your conscious mind refuses to accept such a proposition.
You made an EXTREMELY GREAT POINT here, and which SHOWS just how SIMPLY and EASILY ASSUMPTIONS are made, BEFORE CLARIFICATION is GAINED, FIRST.simplicity wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 1:56 am For simple questions such as the ice cream I prefer, you assumed that I like ice cream. Why?
VERY, VERY True. Like, for example;simplicity wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 1:56 am We make assumptions all the time that have no basis what-so-ever in Reality.
What language is this?
And what are you BASING this 'most' on, EXACTLY?RCSaunders wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 10:34 pmWhat language is this?
"Cannot," in English is one word. To write, "cannot," as two words is either bad English grammar or not English. Nothing says you have to use correct English or grammar, but to most English speakers and readers, not to is a sign of ignorance.
The CONTRADICTION here is BLINDINGLY OBVIOUS.RCSaunders wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:35 pm Again, nothing says you have to use correct English if you don't mind advertising that you are an ignoramus.
LOL "wrong questions".RCSaunders wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:35 pm As for a question being incorrect. Half of philosophy is nonsense attempting to answer wrong questions, like, "how many angels can dance on the point of a pin," or, "why is there something rather than nothing?"
LOL But If one wants to KNOW how to get to the drugstore, then the question, "What does a pickle taste like?" would NOT be asked. Therefore, 'that question' does NOT exist, in that situation. Which MEANS this IMAGINED ONLY 'incorrect question' does NOT even exist, in the FIRST PLACE, nor in the 'REAL WORLD'.RCSaunders wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:35 pm If one want's to know how to get to the drugstore, "What does a pickle taste like?" is an incorrect question. Of course a question can be incorrect. Think before you write.
Here is ANOTHER GREAT EXAMPLE of 'illusory superiority', at its best.RCSaunders wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:35 pm Please don't respond to this post unless it is to thank me.
I WILL respond if I WANT TO.RCSaunders wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:35 pm I'm not making an argument, just pointing out some things that might help you. If you are not interested, just ignore them.
Age wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:18 amAnd what are you BASING this 'most' on, EXACTLY?RCSaunders wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 10:34 pmWhat language is this?
"Cannot," in English is one word. To write, "cannot," as two words is either bad English grammar or not English. Nothing says you have to use correct English or grammar, but to most English speakers and readers, not to is a sign of ignorance.
And, are you IGNORANT of the Fact that the use of words, language, is an EVER-CHANGING, thus EVER-EVOLVING process?
And, are you NOT able to work out what I am SAYING and MEANING above here?
Capitalizing words like, "question," and, "not," is also bad English, which English speakers and readers will immediately recognize as ignorance of the language leading to the assumption what is written by such an ignorant author is likely just as wrong.
You go to a lot of trouble to prove to the world what you are, and it's working!Age wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:18 am
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ANY one is absolutely FREE to ASSUME absolutely ANY thing. AND, by ALL MEANS, PLEASE KEEP ASSUMING 'things' here.
If I AM IGNORANT of the so-called "english language", then so be it.
And, if 'you', adult human beings, in the days when this was being written, can be SO EASILY LED to ASSUME that 'I' am an IGNORANT AUTHOR, which MEANS, to 'you', people, that what 'I' write is ALSO 'likely' to be JUST AS WRONG, then so be it. My job is BEING DONE here.
Who are the Truly IGNORANT ones can be VERY EASILY and VERY CLEARLY SEEN here. Although, and OBVIOUSLY, it takes longer for some people to SEE 'things', which "others" could ALREADY SEE.
By the way, ASSUMING that because one is, SUPPOSEDLY, "ignorant" of A LANGUAGE, then this MEANS that what that one SAYS or WRITES is then likely to be WRONG, is a PRIME EXAMPLE of 'egocentricity', 'superiority complex', and of one who is Truly 'conceited'.
By the way, have ANY of 'you' EVER considered JUST ASKING for CLARITY, BEFORE you MAKE the ASSUMPTION that "another" is "LIKELY to be WRONG"?
The ABSURDITY of ASSUMING what someone SAYS is "LIKELY to be WRONG" just because they do NOT use a language the EXACT SAME WAY that 'you' do, is about as ABSURD and ILLOGICAL as 'things' could get.
The CONTRADICTION here is BLINDINGLY OBVIOUS.RCSaunders wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:35 pm Again, nothing says you have to use correct English if you don't mind advertising that you are an ignoramus.
So, one does NOT use words, LAUGHABLY, "correctly" to you, then, to you, they are ADVERTISING that they are an IGNORAMUS.
Okay. Are you now ABLE to DIRECT "others" to what 'it' IS, which they can base "correctness" off of, EXACTLY?
If no, then is this a SIGN of being a True IGNORAMUS?
If it is NOT a SIGN of being a True IGNORAMUS, to YOU, then what you call it when someone makes a CLAIM, but they are completely AND utterly INCAPABLE of being ABLE to back up and support their CLAIM/S?
But, if you are ABLE to DIRECT 'us' to what is, allegedly, and so-called, "correct English", then we AWAIT 'your' GUIDANCE.
Until then is it okay with you we just ASSUME you are completely AND utterly INCAPABLE to do so.LOL "wrong questions".RCSaunders wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:35 pm As for a question being incorrect. Half of philosophy is nonsense attempting to answer wrong questions, like, "how many angels can dance on the point of a pin," or, "why is there something rather than nothing?"
Have you EVER considered to just ask the "questioner" to CLARIFY, for example, 'What is an angel?' 'How big are they?' and/or 'What is the ACTUAL size of the head, and/or the point, of a pin?'
Or, do you just JUMP to the ASSUMPTION and CONCLUSION that they are just "WRONG questions", and so ALSO then just JUDGE the one who asks "such questions"?
Oh, and by the way, the REASON WHY there is SOME 'thing' rather than NO 'thing' is BECAUSE it could NOT be ANY OTHER WAY.
This becomes FULLY UNDERSTOOD, and KNOWN, when one LEARNS how to LOOK AT and SEE 'things', CORRECTLY.
But because 'you' are NOT YET ABLE to do this, 'you' are just STILL IGNORANT of these IRREFUTABLE Facts.LOL But If one wants to KNOW how to get to the drugstore, then the question, "What does a pickle taste like?" would NOT be asked. Therefore, 'that question' does NOT exist, in that situation. Which MEANS this IMAGINED ONLY 'incorrect question' does NOT even exist, in the FIRST PLACE, nor in the 'REAL WORLD'.RCSaunders wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:35 pm If one want's to know how to get to the drugstore, "What does a pickle taste like?" is an incorrect question. Of course a question can be incorrect. Think before you write.
So, your EXAMPLE is just moot.Here is ANOTHER GREAT EXAMPLE of 'illusory superiority', at its best.RCSaunders wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:35 pm Please don't respond to this post unless it is to thank me.
PLEASE continue writing the way 'you' do "rcsaunders". 'you' are LIVING PROOF for what I have been SAYING and CLAIMING here.I WILL respond if I WANT TO.RCSaunders wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:35 pm I'm not making an argument, just pointing out some things that might help you. If you are not interested, just ignore them.
Are you, AT LEAST, capable of understanding what I have SAID and WRITTEN this time?
If no, then that is PERFECTLY UNDERSTANDABLE, especially considering what you have gone through and the way you LOOK AT and SEE 'things'.
OKAY.RCSaunders wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 3:43 pmAge wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:18 amAnd what are you BASING this 'most' on, EXACTLY?RCSaunders wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 10:34 pm
What language is this?
"Cannot," in English is one word. To write, "cannot," as two words is either bad English grammar or not English. Nothing says you have to use correct English or grammar, but to most English speakers and readers, not to is a sign of ignorance.
And, are you IGNORANT of the Fact that the use of words, language, is an EVER-CHANGING, thus EVER-EVOLVING process?
And, are you NOT able to work out what I am SAYING and MEANING above here?
Capitalizing words like, "question," and, "not," is also bad English, which English speakers and readers will immediately recognize as ignorance of the language leading to the assumption what is written by such an ignorant author is likely just as wrong.You go to a lot of trouble to prove to the world what you are, and it's working!Age wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:18 am
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ANY one is absolutely FREE to ASSUME absolutely ANY thing. AND, by ALL MEANS, PLEASE KEEP ASSUMING 'things' here.
If I AM IGNORANT of the so-called "english language", then so be it.
And, if 'you', adult human beings, in the days when this was being written, can be SO EASILY LED to ASSUME that 'I' am an IGNORANT AUTHOR, which MEANS, to 'you', people, that what 'I' write is ALSO 'likely' to be JUST AS WRONG, then so be it. My job is BEING DONE here.
Who are the Truly IGNORANT ones can be VERY EASILY and VERY CLEARLY SEEN here. Although, and OBVIOUSLY, it takes longer for some people to SEE 'things', which "others" could ALREADY SEE.
By the way, ASSUMING that because one is, SUPPOSEDLY, "ignorant" of A LANGUAGE, then this MEANS that what that one SAYS or WRITES is then likely to be WRONG, is a PRIME EXAMPLE of 'egocentricity', 'superiority complex', and of one who is Truly 'conceited'.
By the way, have ANY of 'you' EVER considered JUST ASKING for CLARITY, BEFORE you MAKE the ASSUMPTION that "another" is "LIKELY to be WRONG"?
The ABSURDITY of ASSUMING what someone SAYS is "LIKELY to be WRONG" just because they do NOT use a language the EXACT SAME WAY that 'you' do, is about as ABSURD and ILLOGICAL as 'things' could get.
The CONTRADICTION here is BLINDINGLY OBVIOUS.RCSaunders wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:35 pm Again, nothing says you have to use correct English if you don't mind advertising that you are an ignoramus.
So, one does NOT use words, LAUGHABLY, "correctly" to you, then, to you, they are ADVERTISING that they are an IGNORAMUS.
Okay. Are you now ABLE to DIRECT "others" to what 'it' IS, which they can base "correctness" off of, EXACTLY?
If no, then is this a SIGN of being a True IGNORAMUS?
If it is NOT a SIGN of being a True IGNORAMUS, to YOU, then what you call it when someone makes a CLAIM, but they are completely AND utterly INCAPABLE of being ABLE to back up and support their CLAIM/S?
But, if you are ABLE to DIRECT 'us' to what is, allegedly, and so-called, "correct English", then we AWAIT 'your' GUIDANCE.
Until then is it okay with you we just ASSUME you are completely AND utterly INCAPABLE to do so.LOL "wrong questions".RCSaunders wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:35 pm As for a question being incorrect. Half of philosophy is nonsense attempting to answer wrong questions, like, "how many angels can dance on the point of a pin," or, "why is there something rather than nothing?"
Have you EVER considered to just ask the "questioner" to CLARIFY, for example, 'What is an angel?' 'How big are they?' and/or 'What is the ACTUAL size of the head, and/or the point, of a pin?'
Or, do you just JUMP to the ASSUMPTION and CONCLUSION that they are just "WRONG questions", and so ALSO then just JUDGE the one who asks "such questions"?
Oh, and by the way, the REASON WHY there is SOME 'thing' rather than NO 'thing' is BECAUSE it could NOT be ANY OTHER WAY.
This becomes FULLY UNDERSTOOD, and KNOWN, when one LEARNS how to LOOK AT and SEE 'things', CORRECTLY.
But because 'you' are NOT YET ABLE to do this, 'you' are just STILL IGNORANT of these IRREFUTABLE Facts.LOL But If one wants to KNOW how to get to the drugstore, then the question, "What does a pickle taste like?" would NOT be asked. Therefore, 'that question' does NOT exist, in that situation. Which MEANS this IMAGINED ONLY 'incorrect question' does NOT even exist, in the FIRST PLACE, nor in the 'REAL WORLD'.RCSaunders wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:35 pm If one want's to know how to get to the drugstore, "What does a pickle taste like?" is an incorrect question. Of course a question can be incorrect. Think before you write.
So, your EXAMPLE is just moot.Here is ANOTHER GREAT EXAMPLE of 'illusory superiority', at its best.RCSaunders wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:35 pm Please don't respond to this post unless it is to thank me.
PLEASE continue writing the way 'you' do "rcsaunders". 'you' are LIVING PROOF for what I have been SAYING and CLAIMING here.I WILL respond if I WANT TO.RCSaunders wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:35 pm I'm not making an argument, just pointing out some things that might help you. If you are not interested, just ignore them.
Are you, AT LEAST, capable of understanding what I have SAID and WRITTEN this time?
If no, then that is PERFECTLY UNDERSTANDABLE, especially considering what you have gone through and the way you LOOK AT and SEE 'things'.