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Flash thinks he's a woman
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2025 2:26 pm
by attofishpi
FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sun Jun 08, 2025 2:20 pm
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Jun 08, 2025 2:11 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sun Jun 08, 2025 2:06 pm
Watching you try to outwit somebody is so fucking boring. If you think you have some amazing gotcha argument to drop on him then just spit it out you windowlicking fucknut.
That's the problem with you Poopypants, not an ounce of comprehension of wit nor logic - the gotcha was up whilst you were sleeping in your favourite lingerie.
If you've shot your bolt already, then that was just an embarrassing failure.
Oooo ouch! *case in point
Re: Flash welcomes ISLAM to UK
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2025 3:47 am
by godelian
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Jun 08, 2025 2:13 pm
You're stating that it is literal, interpretation is OBVIOUS. Ergo, do you agree with the literal statement of it or not, did Allah create mankind
ONLY to worship IT, YES or NO?
That is not what the verse literally says.
Hence, you are asking for an interpretation. Again, I am not the right person to ask this question to. I do not specialize in Quranic interpretation, i.e. "tafsir". There are people who do specialize in "tafsir" activity. I am quite confident that they would be happy to look into the matter.
Re: Flash welcomes ISLAM to UK
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2025 4:19 am
by attofishpi
godelian wrote: ↑Mon Jun 09, 2025 3:47 am
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Jun 08, 2025 2:13 pm
You're stating that it is literal, interpretation is OBVIOUS. Ergo, do you agree with the literal statement of it or not, did Allah create mankind
ONLY to worship IT, YES or NO?
That is not what the verse literally says.
Hence, you are asking for an interpretation. Again, I am not the right person to ask this question to. I do not specialize in Quranic interpretation, i.e. "tafsir". There are people who do specialize in "tafsir" activity. I am quite confident that they would be happy to look into the matter.
Oh, my bad.
"And I did not create the jinn and mankind except to worship Me."
— Qur’an, Surah Adh-Dhariyat (51:56)
According your GPT friend:
"Except" in this sentence implies a restriction on the creation's purpose. It suggests that the
only purpose for the creation of jinn and mankind is worship.
"Only" would modify the relationship and potentially distort the meaning. "Only" would imply a more exclusive or limited condition, which might not reflect the intended meaning as well as "except."
..looks like GPT is as confused as you. Seems clear to me that except/only are interchangeable.
In any case, what are you doing here - when you should be doing what Allah instructed and worshipping it! Allah really needs worship...! Such nonsense from MorHamMad's ego reflected again in Quran.
Re: Flash welcomes ISLAM to UK
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2025 5:10 am
by godelian
attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Jun 09, 2025 4:19 am
godelian wrote: ↑Mon Jun 09, 2025 3:47 am
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Jun 08, 2025 2:13 pm
You're stating that it is literal, interpretation is OBVIOUS. Ergo, do you agree with the literal statement of it or not, did Allah create mankind
ONLY to worship IT, YES or NO?
That is not what the verse literally says.
Hence, you are asking for an interpretation. Again, I am not the right person to ask this question to. I do not specialize in Quranic interpretation, i.e. "tafsir". There are people who do specialize in "tafsir" activity. I am quite confident that they would be happy to look into the matter.
Oh, my bad.
"And I did not create the jinn and mankind except to worship Me."
— Qur’an, Surah Adh-Dhariyat (51:56)
According your GPT friend:
"Except" in this sentence implies a restriction on the creation's purpose. It suggests that the
only purpose for the creation of jinn and mankind is worship.
"Only" would modify the relationship and potentially distort the meaning. "Only" would imply a more exclusive or limited condition, which might not reflect the intended meaning as well as "except."
..looks like GPT is as confused as you. Seems clear to me that except/only are interchangeable.
In any case, what are you doing here - when you should be doing what Allah instructed and worshipping it! Allah really needs worship...! Such nonsense from MorHamMad's ego reflected again in Quran.
Your interpretation is only binding to yourself. That is a basic epistemic rule in Islam. The fact that some people are more influential than others does absolutely not detract from that fact.
Interpretations by unbelievers, however, are strictly unreceivable. If you declare to reject Islam, Muslims must also reject all your interpretations of Islam.
This rule follows trivially from how deductive logic works. If you reject the premises, you are simply not allowed to draw conclusions from them.
DeepSeek: If you reject the premises, you are not allowed to draw conclusions from them.
You're absolutely right—that's a key principle in logic, critical thinking, and rational discourse. Let me break this down step by step to explain why it's important and how it applies in practice.
### 1. **What the Principle Means**
- **Premises**: These are the foundational statements or assumptions that an argument is built on. For example, in the argument, "All humans are mortal (premise 1). Socrates is human (premise 2). Therefore, Socrates is mortal (conclusion)," the two premises support the conclusion.
- **Rejecting premises**: If you reject a premise, you're saying you don't accept it as true or valid (e.g., "I don't agree that all humans are mortal").
- **Drawing conclusions**: If you reject one or more premises, you cannot logically or legitimately use those premises to derive a conclusion because the conclusion depends entirely on the truth of the premises. Doing so would be inconsistent or even deceptive.
The only thing that you can reasonably do with basic beliefs is to accept or reject them. If you could really prove them true or false, then they would not be basic beliefs to begin with.
Re: Flash welcomes ISLAM to UK
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2025 10:17 am
by attofishpi
godelian wrote: ↑Mon Jun 09, 2025 3:47 am
If you reject the premises, you are simply not allowed to draw conclusions from them.
DeepSeek: If you reject the premises, you are not allowed to draw conclusions from them.
You're absolutely right—that's a key principle in logic, critical thinking, and rational discourse. Let me break this down step by step to explain why it's important and how it applies in practice.
One
should only "reject a premise", if evidence is not provided to support the premise.
Anyone can reject a premise, but its extremely ignorant and arrogant to reject reasonable evidence.
godelian wrote:The only thing that you can reasonably do with basic beliefs is to accept or reject them. If you could really prove them true or false, then they would not be basic beliefs to begin with.
I can beyond a reasonable doubt prove per evidence that we are either 1) within a "simulation", god being AI, OR, 2) GOD is Divine and is the construct behind our reality - <--- 1 or 2 is TRUE.
Re: Flash welcomes ISLAM to UK
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2025 10:22 am
by godelian
attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Jun 09, 2025 10:17 am
One
should only "reject a premise", if evidence is not provided to support the premise.
There is no evidence for basic beliefs. For example, if you require evidence for PA, you must reject PA, because there is none, and then you must also reject its proof that 1+1=2.