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Is the mind the same as the body? What is consciousness? Can machines have it?

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Walker wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:49 am
Dontaskme wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:45 am And this one....
Reminds me of Borgs in Star Trek.
”Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated”

Be Warned!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZSmB45oiaM

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Do you think that technology, or AI, is The Beast from Revelations?

“What you’ve got is the idea that connect to AI and you’ll become superhuman intelligent. No, you’ll become subhuman intelligent. You’ll become a vehicle for artificial intelligence.”
- Icke, from the link
Technology is just an artificial distraction that fools the human brain into believing it is intelligent and free, AND THAT IT IS THE ONE IN CONTROL. In truth technology is just a tool used as a sneaky way to lure humankind to partipate in it's own subconscious pre-emptive predictive programming. Some people can already see through the delusion. But others are seduced by the LIE in that they are easily manipulated and mind controlled by the billionaire global elites, who believe they are above the law who think they can get away with anything including the mass murder of their own species, (depopulation) while everyone else are duped into becoming slaves to their evil agenda's which is to distract humans away from their divine real self. The distraction is because they don't want people to WAKE UP to the actual real truth. And this all part and parcel of the PLAY OF CONSCIOUSNESS to get you to WAKE UP.

Ironically, the opposite of the global elites plan is happening, people are WAKING UP because that's how God planned it. God never said it was going to be easy, just that it would be worth it.In that there is no way to get to heaven except through the gates of hell. The choice is always ours because we already have the truth within us all. The Christ Consciousness is who we are, the second coming just means knowing the difference between the truth teller and the liar.
The real self never came, because it didn't have to, it's already HERE.
The second coming could mean remembering who we really is, was, and always will be.

Back to the story...

We microchip our pets to keep track of their whereabouts and control their activity. And that's what we are bascially going to do to ourselves if that's what we willingly want to participate in.

The real God never needed any technological device to make this universe what it is. But the worship of technology as if that's what normal reality IS.. is a fools game, but not for those who cannot be fooled. Smart phones cannot take selfies of themselves, so the whole image worshipping dynamic is a LIE... THAT YOU HAVE BEEN PROGRAMMED TO BELIEVE IS REAL...IN truth, there is no one in control of you because all worshipped images are empty to their core...

The story continues...it's endless..watch this space, is it empty or full...you decide? :D

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David Icke was right.

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Walker wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:49 am Do you think that technology, or AI, is The Beast from Revelations?

Religious Scripture is just a self fulfilling prophesy.

In other words HIS STORY

In other words, emptiness appearing full.
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Age wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 3:13 am
roydop wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:16 pm
roydop wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:00 am
True understanding will arise out of the experience of thought free Awareness, not from more "blah blah blah".
And let me guess, from 'your' perspective, EVERY thing 'you' say comes from the experience of the so called "thought free Awareness", AND, ANY thing anyone "else" says, which 'you' do NOT agree with nor accept is just more "blah, blah, blah", is that guess correct?
Let's examine this.

If i am able to remain in the thought free state (without also engaging the senses, ei: watching a screen, reading a book, listening to music...) for long periods of time and you are able to remain in the same state for only a few seconds at a time, then i am experiencing the world from a perspective that you are not.
What?

If 'we' are experiencing the same state, which you just acknowledged we are, then OBVIOUSLY we ARE experiencing from the EXACT SAME perspective. 'you' are, therefore, NOT experiencing things from a perspective that I am not. 'you' just say you are experiencing the SAME state for longer periods than I do. (But, by the way, in thought free Awareness there is NO actual "time", so there is obviously NO "long periods of time" either). If 'you' have been in True (thought free) Awareness, then 'you' would already be Aware of this fact anyway.

roydop wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:16 pmThis is not a judgement call, it's just a logical evaluation.
Seems a rather ILLOGICAL evaluation, to me.

If you say we are in the same state but then say we are experiencing DIFFERENTLY, then, logically, this is CONTRADICTORY, and thus ILLOGICAL, well it is to 'me' anyway.
roydop wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:16 pm So when i describe the world i see from my perspective, you really have no frame of reference to say anything about my description of the world, do you?
Before I answer that, I can ask 'you' clarifying questions, which is what I DID DO, to obtain further clarity about 'you' description of things. However, 'you' NOT clarifying things but instead guiding 'me' to read the words of some "other" person also will NOT give me a better 'frame of reference' about 'your' description of things, AT ALL.

Also, I can say some thing, if I so choose to, about HOW and WHY 'your' description of things IS WRONG.

I ALREADY KNOW HOW and WHY 'you' HAVE 'your' 'frame of reference', so I KNOW HOW and WHY you describe things the way you do, which obviously can NOT be disputed. But also just as OBVIOUS is the fact that 'your' description of things can be partly or completely WRONG.

By the way, because (thee) 'I' IS absolute Awareness, 'I' already have a PERFECTLY CLEAR and FULL 'frame of reference' of EVERY thing to say SOME THING about 'your' own very tiny, narrowed little, individual, and separate description of things.
You didn't respond to this: "BTW, how long are you able to sit silently without thinking? An honest evaluation on this matter is paramount."


To say that consciousness that can remain in/as thought free Awareness for a few seconds at a time is at the same "level" of a consciousness that is able to remain in/as thought free Awareness for an hour, is like saying that someone who can deadlift 50 kilograms once is as strong as someone who can carry 50 kgs up a hill, or that someone who can jump is on the same level as someone who can levitate. roy dopson is not nearly as "Enlightened' as Ramana Maharshsi, who suggested once that one should remain in/as thought free Awareness for 7 years.

Even the way you write is nonsensical.

Until you are able to rest effortlessly in/as thought free Awareness for, oh let's say 10 minutes, I'm done talking to you.
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henry quirk wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:40 pm
Here is the source of all of your problems.
What problems? I ain't been complainin'.
Are you content while sitting in a chair in a still room, while free of thought? One would assume that one should be able to be happy in and of their own existence. Most people misinterpret interest with happiness. That is, as long as the mind is churning, one is content. But until one is content in their own being, true and lasting happiness will not be realized.
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roydop wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:20 pm
henry quirk wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:40 pm
Here is the source of all of your problems.
What problems? I ain't been complainin'.
Are you content while sitting in a chair in a still room, while free of thought? One would assume that one should be able to be happy in and of their own existence. Most people misinterpret interest with happiness. That is, as long as the mind is churning, one is content. But until one is content in their own being, true and lasting happiness will not be realized.
Pretending to be a potted plant ain't my idea of a good time. I know you don't get it, but: some of us enjoy thinking, enjoying cogitating, enjoy workin' the synapses.
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or fishing...

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henry quirk wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:42 pm
roydop wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:20 pm
henry quirk wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:40 pm

What problems? I ain't been complainin'.
Are you content while sitting in a chair in a still room, while free of thought? One would assume that one should be able to be happy in and of their own existence. Most people misinterpret interest with happiness. That is, as long as the mind is churning, one is content. But until one is content in their own being, true and lasting happiness will not be realized.
Pretending to be a potted plant ain't my idea of a good time. I know you don't get it, but: some of us enjoy thinking, enjoying cogitating, enjoy workin' the synapses.
I completely get it. There's nothing "wrong" with engaging in the dream/game, just as long as one recognizes that every good time comes with a bad time, and there's a whole lotta bad times on the horizon.

The exercise of sitting quietly in a chair free of thought reveals the inherent emptiness in all experience. Gotta keep that mind churning for the ponzi scheme to continue.

Also, abiding in/as thought free Awareness is not a lesser evolutionary state, but a higher one. Consciousness that can rest in and of it's own being has transcended the illusory world constructed by mind. I find the bliss and peace of Being far more fulfilling/substantial than anything this realm has to offer.
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he inherent emptiness in all experience. the ponzi scheme
See, there's where we part company: experience is not empty, and experiencing is not a scam.
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Impenitent wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 12:04 am 5G isn't as good as SG...

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The SG has some major sustain...

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Dontaskme wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:33 am
SteveKlinko wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:30 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:05 am Will 5G be the weapon of our own making that brings about our own extinction, and did we subconsciously want this extinction?

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What would be the basis for even having such a thought about 5G?
Ultimately, the human mind is heading towards redundancy. There will come a time when we won't ever have to put any effort into living, or have to think about anything anymore, we'll just press a submit button on our mechanical devices and all the thinking and answers to our questions and problems will be at our finger tips. The singularity means we reach God like status, so we we won't be of any more use to ourselves, we'll become totally useless and dependant like a baby again, we'll become dependant on our own frankenstien like machines that will be our new God instead. Also, imagine how we would all react if the internet was NO MORE...people would go crazy and be like headless chickens. You know what they say, if you don't use it, you'll lose it. We are making ourselves deliberately redundant. Some people are aware of this, others are not and could not care less.

I don't know what is going to happen in the future but it's not hard to predict, based on what's already happening now.

Some of us just refuse to take our heads out of our arsehole and face the bigger picture, it's as if they want nothing more than to get lost up there own arse, it's like what is the alternative, that's hardly worth thinking about.

Just my nonsensical crappy opinions. The world is going to hell in a handcart, we all know it, we all instinctively know what everyone is thinking, it's just that some are afraid to say it out loud.

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The problem is that the weapon, "Money," runs the show; when it should be truth, "Science!"

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roydop wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:12 pm
Age wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 3:13 am
roydop wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:16 pm



Let's examine this.

If i am able to remain in the thought free state (without also engaging the senses, ei: watching a screen, reading a book, listening to music...) for long periods of time and you are able to remain in the same state for only a few seconds at a time, then i am experiencing the world from a perspective that you are not.
What?

If 'we' are experiencing the same state, which you just acknowledged we are, then OBVIOUSLY we ARE experiencing from the EXACT SAME perspective. 'you' are, therefore, NOT experiencing things from a perspective that I am not. 'you' just say you are experiencing the SAME state for longer periods than I do. (But, by the way, in thought free Awareness there is NO actual "time", so there is obviously NO "long periods of time" either). If 'you' have been in True (thought free) Awareness, then 'you' would already be Aware of this fact anyway.

roydop wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:16 pmThis is not a judgement call, it's just a logical evaluation.
Seems a rather ILLOGICAL evaluation, to me.

If you say we are in the same state but then say we are experiencing DIFFERENTLY, then, logically, this is CONTRADICTORY, and thus ILLOGICAL, well it is to 'me' anyway.
roydop wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:16 pm So when i describe the world i see from my perspective, you really have no frame of reference to say anything about my description of the world, do you?
Before I answer that, I can ask 'you' clarifying questions, which is what I DID DO, to obtain further clarity about 'you' description of things. However, 'you' NOT clarifying things but instead guiding 'me' to read the words of some "other" person also will NOT give me a better 'frame of reference' about 'your' description of things, AT ALL.

Also, I can say some thing, if I so choose to, about HOW and WHY 'your' description of things IS WRONG.

I ALREADY KNOW HOW and WHY 'you' HAVE 'your' 'frame of reference', so I KNOW HOW and WHY you describe things the way you do, which obviously can NOT be disputed. But also just as OBVIOUS is the fact that 'your' description of things can be partly or completely WRONG.

By the way, because (thee) 'I' IS absolute Awareness, 'I' already have a PERFECTLY CLEAR and FULL 'frame of reference' of EVERY thing to say SOME THING about 'your' own very tiny, narrowed little, individual, and separate description of things.
You didn't respond to this: "BTW, how long are you able to sit silently without thinking? An honest evaluation on this matter is paramount."
If thee Truth be KNOWN, I NEVER saw this question asked BEFORE. So, I OBVIOUSLY I could NOT have responded to it BEFORE. However, IF you want to say or suggest that 'you' have posed this clarifying question to me previously, then WHERE and WHEN?

ALSO, I have ALREADY COINCIDENTALLY provided the ANSWER to this very question, in my writings PREVIOUSLY. On a few occasions I have already STATED that i have upwardly progressed to STOP thinking (or thought free Awareness) for about three to four seconds now.
roydop wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:12 pmTo say that consciousness that can remain in/as thought free Awareness for a few seconds at a time is at the same "level" of a consciousness that is able to remain in/as thought free Awareness for an hour, is like saying that someone who can deadlift 50 kilograms once is as strong as someone who can carry 50 kgs up a hill, or that someone who can jump is on the same level as someone who can levitate.
Well 'you' have certainly MISSED what I have been saying here. Consciousness, Itself, is ALWAYS in a thought free state, as Consciousness, Itself, IS Awareness.

When there is a 'thought free state', occurring within one human body, then that 'i'/'person', in that body, is NOT existing, but Consciousness IS. 'thought free Awareness' is when Consciousness is Aware, without 'thought/you/person/i' interfering or distorting True Awareness, Itself. 'you', human beings, do NOT go into or become Consciousness, Itself, but what happens is Consciousness is just OBSERVING and SEEING things CRYSTAL CLEARLY, as It ALWAYS DOES anyway, without 'you', thoughts, "snowing" the picture.

'Consciousness' does NOT go into nor remain in/as 'thought free Awareness'. Consciousness IS 'Awareness without thought/thinking'.

Human consciousness, however, is a whole other thing. Human consciousness is so tiny and small in relation to Consciousness that it is hardly worth even mentioning, let alone talking about here, now.

Also, since 'you' have OBVIOUSLY misinterpreted AND misunderstood what I have been saying, to make it CLEAR, to you, I have NOT been saying that to remain in thought free Awareness for a few seconds is the at the same "level" as doing it for an hour. These are YOUR words. NOT mine.

What I was AND still am saying that IF some one can dead lift 50 kilograms AND some one can lift and carry 50 kilograms up a hill, then BOTH of them CAN lift 50 kilograms. The SAME applies with the other two about being off the ground AND thought free Awareness. CAN 'you' now SPOT and SEE the difference between what I have been ACTUALLY SAYING from what 'you' THINK or BELIEVE I have been saying?

As I continually say, in this forum, IF 'you' human beings STOP ASSUMING and BELIEVING things, then 'you' WILL START SEEING the actual Truth of things.
roydop wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:12 pm roy dopson is not nearly as "Enlightened' as Ramana Maharshsi, who suggested once that one should remain in/as thought free Awareness for 7 years.
'I' suggest remaining in that Truly OPEN state ALWAYS, which 'I' have stated/suggested MANY times previously here in this forum. Does this make 'me' more Enlightened? Hell NO. This just means i have learned some things "others" have not.

But just because the True 'I', is allowed to speak the CRYSTAL CLEAR Truth, through ALL human beings at differing times, and is some times HEARD and UNDERSTOOD this does NOT mean, and I will repeat, does NOT mean that human beings like the one called "roy dopson", "raman maharshi", "age", nor ANY other of the billions of 'you' that exist are necessarily more or less enlightened than "another" IS. 'you' ALL have come from and through ABSOLUTE and TRUE 'thought free Awareness', SO the ability to be Truly OPEN again remains with ALL of 'you' EQUALLY and ALWAYS. And the ability to BE and REMAIN Truly OPEN ALWAYS so that thee absolute Truth of things can be SEEN ad UNDERSTOOD also remains forever more.

Absolutely EVERY one has had a DIFFERENT upbringing so OBVIOUSLY EVERY one of 'you' LOOKS AT and SEES things differently. IF any one of 'you' SEES and UNDERSTANDS things in a more, so called, "enlightened" way, then that is NOT because one of 'you' is more enlightened than "another" is, this just MEANS that 'you' have been brought up DIFFERENTLY, naturally.

The Universe evolves to become conscious of thee True Self. Who AND what 'you' are, and thinks, is of NO real importance. What is Truly important here is what thee 'I', thy True Self, SEES and KNOWS.

When any one of 'you' REMAINS Truly OPEN, then what IS actually True, Right, AND Correct can be and WILL BE SEEN and UNDERSTOOD, very simply, very easily, and almost instantaneously. Until then, each one of 'you', adult human beings, will keep 'trying to' express what 'you' each BELIEVE and THINK is true, right, and correct in Life.
roydop wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:12 pmEven the way you write is nonsensical.
Just saying some thing like this without ANY EXAMPLES does NOT say ANY THING AT ALL REALLY.

WHY do you NOT provide some examples so that 'we' can at least SEE them, LOOK AT them, AND DISCUSS them?

Then we can SEE if they really are nonsensical or NOT.

Obviously some of what 'I' write would appear to be VERY nonsensical to some one like 'you'. But this is the BEAUTY of what I write. I write to make it appear one way, but what I am actually saying AND expressing might be very, very different indeed. 'you' WILL NEVER KNOW, until 'you' DO. I do this to provide EVIDENCE of just how much 'you' little human beings ARE STUCK in your own making. 'you' are BEING CONTROLLED by your OWN DISTORTIONS and OWN BELIEFS and ASSUMPTIONS, and so are NOT able to SEE things as CRYSTAL CLEAR as I can. 'you' are SO STUCK that 'you' literally can NOT, at the moment, unstuck yourselves from IT.

Remember just ABSOLUTELY EVERY thing I say and claim here I can back up and support FULLY and WHOLLY. Whereas, most of what 'you', human beings, claim here can be SHOWN very easily and very simply to just be simply WRONG and/or FALSE.

Also, REMEMBER I am the only one here who LOVES to be challenged AND questioned on absolutely EVERY thing I say and write here. Whereas, ALL of 'you', human beings, HATE being challenged AND questioned on what 'you' say and write here. This can be EVIDENCED throughout ALL of my discussions here in this forum.
roydop wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:12 pmUntil you are able to rest effortlessly in/as thought free Awareness for, oh let's say 10 minutes, I'm done talking to you.
LOL am I supposed to care?

IF 'you' do NOT talk to 'I', then care factor is at absolute ZERO.

Also, what would I have to do to get 'you' to talk to 'me' again? Just say to you, "Ah okay I have done it for 10 minutes and 12 seconds now". So, then would you come and talk to me again?

Also, IF 'you' were Truly Honest and OPEN, then would SEE and UNDERSTAND how it would be, ESPECIALLY for some one like 'you', that 'you' could NOT be in 'thought free Awareness' for as long as 'you' would like to BELIEVE 'you' can be or are.

By the way, would 'you' like to start explaining what 'consciousness' IS exactly and HOW 'it' could moved into and remain in/as thought free Awareness?

Until then, do 'you' REALLY KNOW that much about what it is that 'you' are essentially really just 'trying to' express here?

Oh I nearly forgot, WHY is an honest evaluation on the question; How long are you able to sit silently without thinking? PARAMOUNT?

WHAT IS actually so PARAMOUNT and IMPORTANT here?

And, WHEN exactly are 'you', "roydop", going to give an Honest evaluation about, How long 'you' able to sit silently without thinking?
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roydop wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:20 pm
henry quirk wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:40 pm
Here is the source of all of your problems.
What problems? I ain't been complainin'.
Are you content while sitting in a chair in a still room, while free of thought?
Thee True Self is ALWAYS content, JUST KNOWING. Thus 'I' am PERMANENTLY content, and free of thought.
roydop wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:20 pmOne would assume that one should be able to be happy in and of their own existence.


But when one IS ASSUMING absolutely any thing, then they will NOT SEE nor will they KNOW thee REAL and actual Truth of things.
roydop wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:20 pmMost people misinterpret interest with happiness.
Do they?

Will 'you' provide ANY examples of this?

And then explain the VERY REASON WHY this occurs?

Also, WHY do 'you' still misinterpret interest with happiness?
roydop wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:20 pm That is, as long as the mind is churning, one is content.
But thee one and only Mind NEVER churns.

However, OBVIOUSLY 'you', thinking, human being, are nearly always constantly churning in your non sleeping state.
roydop wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:20 pm But until one is content in their own being, true and lasting happiness will not be realized.
Did this even NEED to be expressed?

This would be ALREADY be common KNOWLEDGE surely, by now in the days of when this is written, correct?

The VERY REASON WHY ALL of 'you', adult human beings, are addicted to some thing and do DO WRONG is because 'you' are NOT happy, NOT content, and can NOT get what it is that 'you' ALL Truly WANT and DESIRE.

When 'you' do get this, then BEING that One, which KNOWS Its Self, IS content in Its Being. Although True Happiness is ALREADY realized, only when Being thee True Self is when that One IS Truly Happy.
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roydop wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:29 pm
henry quirk wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:42 pm
roydop wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:20 pm

Are you content while sitting in a chair in a still room, while free of thought? One would assume that one should be able to be happy in and of their own existence. Most people misinterpret interest with happiness. That is, as long as the mind is churning, one is content. But until one is content in their own being, true and lasting happiness will not be realized.
Pretending to be a potted plant ain't my idea of a good time. I know you don't get it, but: some of us enjoy thinking, enjoying cogitating, enjoy workin' the synapses.
I completely get it. There's nothing "wrong" with engaging in the dream/game, just as long as one recognizes that every good time comes with a bad time, and there's a whole lotta bad times on the horizon.
But I do NOT have any of these, so called, "bad times", which 'you' speak of here.

What are they, and where do they come from?

AND, WHY do you hold this BELIEF that for every good time comes a bad time, and that there is a whole lot of "bad times" on the horizon?

What does this last part actually mean exactly?

Also, how do 'you' KNOW what is "on the horizon"?
roydop wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:29 pmThe exercise of sitting quietly in a chair free of thought reveals the inherent emptiness in all experience.
But there is NO emptiness because what is revealed is KNOWING. Being 'free of thought' can also mean Being 'full of KNOWING'.
roydop wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:29 pmGotta keep that mind churning for the ponzi scheme to continue.
But there is NO mind that churns. But OBVIOUSLY 'you', human beings, keep churning away. 'trying to keep' your OWN ASSUMPTIONS and BELIEFS appearing to be REAL.
roydop wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:29 pmAlso, abiding in/as thought free Awareness is not a lesser evolutionary state, but a higher one.
Therefore, whilst 'you', human beings, remain just that 'human beings', then 'you' will NOT progress to the next evolutionary state?

Also, WHY is it that people, like 'you', talk about moving into and/or being in a 'higher evolutionary state' BUT then PANIC and/or become completely PARANOID about silly little things like, 5G and/or technology, as it is evolution itself moving into and being in a 'higher state'?

The thoughts are continually churning over about, and being scared of, things like being taken over by "machines". AND being supposedly "taken over" by the very things that known by the word "artificial", which obviously implies NOT real. "Artificial intelligence" is obviously NOT some thing that could take over REAL intelligence.
roydop wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:29 pm Consciousness that can rest in and of it's own being has transcended the illusory world constructed by mind.
Consciousness permanently IS in rest and JUST Being.

The "world" constructed by thoughts within those human bodies IS permanently transcended by thee Truly OPEN Mind.
roydop wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:29 pm I find the bliss and peace of Being far more fulfilling/substantial than anything this realm has to offer.
But the VERY STRONG desire and want still, which STILL EXISTS in Being can be CLEARLY OBSERVED here, from the "roydop" being.
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roydop wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:29 pm

The exercise of sitting quietly in a chair free of thought reveals the inherent emptiness in all experience. Gotta keep that mind churning for the ponzi scheme to continue.
Very good, yes, the thoughtfree state that is emptiness itself is the highest state of being.

The thought of a still mind is like a still wind. The trained guru will know how to make the mind it's master than be a slave to their thoughts...via identification, ie: I am a human, or that is a cat.

People don't often see that other side of reality where every moment of their life is constantly dissolving and dying back into and from the emptiness in which it appears. The real truth is that for the autonomous sense of self, which sounds similar to the idea of an automated self ...this automated self is the only way it can exist as and through it's own artifical image it itself has created.
While Technology appears to be the only way to experience the matrix of things as and through the images created...it is also just a distraction like all other objects of desire. For the mind will tend toward the worship of the object as being the being. When in truth, no object is ever SELF AWARE.

It's technology that evolves - NOT YOU.




roydop wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:29 pm Also, abiding in/as thought free Awareness is not a lesser evolutionary state, but a higher one. Consciousness that can rest in and of it's own being has transcended the illusory world constructed by mind.
Although, what appears to transcend the illusory mental constructs OF THE MIND...THE mind never transcended,as the idea 'to transcend' is also a mental construct, but behind all this mental activity lies the highest state of pure not-knowing being. And so in going beyond all that is ever being said, understood, experienced and living from that not-knowing being, without knowing that, is the pure innocence, which is ''Being Alive''.


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Re: It is wise not to break the instrument for experience.

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No One wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:18 amAlso, WHY is it that people, like 'you', talk about moving into and/or being in a 'higher evolutionary state' BUT then PANIC and/or become completely PARANOID about silly little things like, 5G and/or technology, as it is evolution itself moving into and being in a 'higher state'?
Because Technology is just an appearance which can effect other appearances, and sometimes appearances effecting other appearances can irreversibly damage the vital instrument for the experience of appearances. So the body, namely the brain, is I'm afraid the only instrument available in which the experience of experience can be known to have happened, in the sense that if sensual experience is no longer being logged, namely, recorded and stored in memory, to be recalled on demand, did any sensual experience ever happen?

...and so if that instrument of experience, namely, the brain, if it is in any way damaged beyond repair, then either the movie which is the human experience will be severely impaired, or will not show up at all on the screen of Awareness.
The good news or bad news whatever which way one looks at this ..is that Nothing will happen to Awareness itself, for that is the one permanent constant that remains uncreated and therefore can never be destroyed.

So what will happen is that the movie of human experience will not be able to show up, in the sense similar to that of your mechanical device the TV set when that device becomes broken beyond repair then it will no longer be able to pick up the invisible incoming data and turn that data into a living movie. So if you want the experience of human experience to work properly, you really need to take care of the instrument of experience, and not destroy it by allowing toxic appearances to be able to interact with one another causing sometimes dire and consequential negative effects that are sometimes irreversible to the instrument, but not the Awareness which is the projection screen on which you happen.

In other words, 5 G is going fry yer brain.

Hope that is clear enough.

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