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Is the mind the same as the body? What is consciousness? Can machines have it?

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Re: 5G

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Dontaskme wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:00 am
roydop wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:58 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:05 am Will 5G be the weapon of our own making that brings about our own extinction, and did we subconsciously want this extinction?

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5G and A.I. tech is consciousness creating a new digital realm for it to transition into. This is the reason why we are becoming ever more addicted to all that the human mind has created (headphones and screens). We are transitioning into a new accepted reality. This is not a "good" thing, as this 3D realm is itself a simulated reality.
Thank you, and I agree. Well said by the way.
roydop wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:58 pmThe species is going extinct and the collective super consciousness feels the impending extinction, and those who do not realize True Self (Enlightenment) will be reborn "in" a freakin' machine. There will no longer be a humanity to further reincarnate into.
Well said, I agree.
roydop wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:58 pmThis is the singularity event when A.I. becomes sentient; not due to the speed of the computations, but because "you" will take your new ego to be "inside" a computer/cyborg, rather than "inside" a biological body.
Thank you, I agree.
The singularity is happening now contrary to what science is predicting that it is a few decades away, it's not, it's happening now.
roydop wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:58 pmThe reason why everything is becoming digitized is to recreate this world as accurately as possible in order to "fool" consciousness into accepting it as the new reality, as a virus operates.
Very accurate description of what is happening right now.

Roydrop, do you think it's because consciousness has nowhere else to go in this particular time line - in that there can be no thing higher within the evolutionary scale than that of human sentient awareness ??
What is it with 'human beings' and their 'thinking' that they are the highest level, at they 'think' this continually at any given time throughout their history?

The past is ACTUAL EVIDENCE and PROOF that 'human sentient awareness' is OBVIOUSLY continually moving upwards. 'you', human beings have MUCH MORE discover AND learn here.

When 'you' do, then 'you' move out of the 'human' stage on the evolutionary path and keep moving further UP "the ladder".
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:00 amI mean, evolution seems to have stopped biologically here on earth, call it degeneration time...or something like that.. hmm?
This is an EXTREMELY narrowed view of things.
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:00 amAnd so as the human organism goes extinct, the transfer of energy will just be passed onto the next vessel whatever that appears as we will never know until it is being experienced by consciousness itself ..hmm?

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Consciousness Itself ALREADY KNOWS what the 'next vessel' IS. And so to will 'you' WHEN 'you' STOP being so CLOSED and BLINDED by 'your' own BELIEFS and ASSUMPTIONS.
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Re: 5G

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roydop wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:00 pm
Age wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:56 am
roydop wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:58 pm

5G and A.I. tech is consciousness creating a new digital realm for it to transition into. This is the reason why we are becoming ever more addicted to all that the human mind has created (headphones and screens).
EVERY thing, which has been created from human beings has come from imagination and thinking. There is NO human mind.
roydop wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:58 pm We are transitioning into a new accepted reality.
Is there or could there be an "unaccepted" reality?

If yes, then any examples?
roydop wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:58 pmThis is not a "good" thing, as this 3D realm is itself a simulated reality.
"simulated" by who and/or what exactly?
roydop wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:58 pmThe species is going extinct and the collective super consciousness feels the impending extinction, and those who do not realize True Self (Enlightenment) will be reborn "in" a freakin' machine.
Are you able to elaborate on this at all?

If yes, then please do. What is this " 'freakin machine' " exactly, which you talk about here? And, what will supposedly happen to those that realize True Self (enlightenment)?

Also is there ANY species EVER not going to go, so called, "extinct"?

The so called "collective super consciousness", which I just call Consciousness, Itself, KNOWS what is about to come. What do 'you', "roydop", propose is about to come.
roydop wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:58 pmThere will no longer be a humanity to further reincarnate into.
What does "further reincarnate into" actually mean?

What do 'you' think or believe 'humanity' IS, exactly?

'What' even could reincarnate into 'humanity'?
roydop wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:58 pmThis is the singularity event when A.I. becomes sentient; not due to the speed of the computations, but because "you" will take your new ego to be "inside" a computer/cyborg, rather than "inside" a biological body.
This sounds a bit far fetched, to me.

Are you able to explain HOW this could even possibly occur?

The Truth of things, to me, sound far more reasonable, simple, and actually possible. But each to their own.
roydop wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:58 pmThe reason why everything is becoming digitized is to recreate this world as accurately as possible in order to "fool" consciousness into accepting it as the new reality, as a virus operates.
When 'you' say "to recreate this WORLD", what EXACTLY do you mean when 'you' say "world"?

By the way Consciousness is NEVER fooled. Consciousness also could NEVER be fooled especially by a species, which BELIEVES that it is so smart and intelligent, but which is actually so Truly STUPID that it does not even Truly recognize how close it is on the brink of extinction.

A species that KNOWS what it is doing IS WRONG but continues to DO WRONG, and at a Truly exponential rate, just because it WANTS MORE THINGS could NEVER fool Consciousness. To think a species, which is THIS STUPID could actually "fool" Consciousness, Itself, is a PRIME EXAMPLE of the STUPIDITY of that species.

Consciousness is OBVIOUSLY watching OR observing ALL of what species DO.
It's all here: www.onesteppath.com under the "Nonconceptuality" tab.
But it is NOT "all" there.

There is MUCH MORE to explain FULLY ALL-OF-THIS, which, by the way, can be explained so simply and so easily that even 'you', human adult beings, could understand it. Children instantly understand AND get it anyway.

It's not up to me to explain this line by line to you. If you want to truly understand you could actually attempt to understand it, instead of trying to pick it apart.

But I DO ALREADY UNDERSTAND 'it', and FULLY.

I "pick it apart" because it is NOT explained Correctly and Properly.
roydop wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:00 pm If you are looking to simply pick it apart the information won't get through, subsequently making it appear as nonsense.
Well the way it explained there it is obviously NOT getting through to the majority of 'you', human beings, now, CORRECT?
roydop wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:00 pmJust because you don't get it doesn't mean it's not accurate.
WHY do 'you' ASSUME or BELIEVE that 'I' do not get it?
roydop wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:00 pmIf you are unable to see the world from the perspective of effortless thought free Awareness you will most likely not understand what is being related.


But I am also hinting to True Awareness, from a different perspective, which 'you' completely refuse to even LOOK AT and CONSIDER.

If 'you' could REALLY SEE the Universe, from the perspective of Awareness, then 'you' WOULD SEE the FAULTS and FLAWS in your writings here.

'you' BELIEVE that the version that 'you' are directing "other" human beings to, which REALLY is just ANOTHER one of MANY stories, but one that 'you' have read about, and thus have just learned about, from "another" human being, is the one and only absolutely True, Right, and Correct version, correct?

Sadly though, for 'you', all of these WRONG versions just fall the way side. Although the parts in there which are True and are inline with thee actual REAL Truth of things are great aspects to LEARN and FOLLOW, they unfortunately get dismissed because of all of the Wrong, False, misunderstood, misinterpreted, or misleading parts.
roydop wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:00 pmTrue understanding will arise out of the experience of thought free Awareness, not from more "blah blah blah".
And let me guess, from 'your' perspective, EVERY thing 'you' say comes from the experience of the so called "thought free Awareness", AND, ANY thing anyone "else" says, which 'you' do NOT agree with nor accept is just more "blah, blah, blah", is that guess correct?

WHY is the ones who say things like "True understanding arises out of some thing that I can NOT explain" are the ones who continually speaking, writing or are "blah, blah, blahing"?

Now, if any part of what 'I' am saying is "blah, blah, blah" OR just plain WRONG, then point that out, explain WHY it is WRONG, then we can ALL LOOK AT it, and then discuss.

However, if 'you' can NOT do that, then that says MORE about what 'you' do NOT know, then about what 'you' do actually KNOW.

What IS Truly Right and Truly Wrong is OBVIOUS to Free Awareness. So, if, as you believe 'you' do, KNOW so much about Free Awareness, then let us SEE IT.

If we are to LOOK AT the Truth of things, 'you', so far, are completely and utterly incapable of answering clarifying questions or elaborating on what 'you' "yourself" say. Forwarding 'us' to LOOK AT what "another" says obviously does NOT help 'you'. Doing this is a SIGN that 'you' actually do NOT know what 'you' are talking about here.
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Re: 5G

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roydop wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:31 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:00 am
roydop wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:58 pm
5G and A.I. tech is consciousness creating a new digital realm for it to transition into. This is the reason why we are becoming ever more addicted to all that the human mind has created (headphones and screens). We are transitioning into a new accepted reality. This is not a "good" thing, as this 3D realm is itself a simulated reality.
Thank you, and I agree. Well said by the way.
roydop wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:58 pmThe species is going extinct and the collective super consciousness feels the impending extinction, and those who do not realize True Self (Enlightenment) will be reborn "in" a freakin' machine. There will no longer be a humanity to further reincarnate into.
Well said, I agree.
roydop wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:58 pmThis is the singularity event when A.I. becomes sentient; not due to the speed of the computations, but because "you" will take your new ego to be "inside" a computer/cyborg, rather than "inside" a biological body.
Thank you, I agree.
The singularity is happening now contrary to what science is predicting that it is a few decades away, it's not, it's happening now.
roydop wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:58 pmThe reason why everything is becoming digitized is to recreate this world as accurately as possible in order to "fool" consciousness into accepting it as the new reality, as a virus operates.
Very accurate description of what is happening right now.

Roydrop, do you think it's because consciousness has nowhere else to go in this particular time line - in that there can be no thing higher within the evolutionary scale than that of human sentient awareness ??

I mean, evolution seems to have stopped biologically here on earth, call it degeneration time...or something like that.. hmm?
And so as the human organism goes extinct, the transfer of energy will just be passed onto the next vessel whatever that appears as we will never know until it is being experienced by consciousness itself ..hmm?


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I read a Michio Kaku book where he described how humanity could travel through a (cosmic) black hole in order to avoid being burnt to a crisp when the sun goes nova in a couple billion years. Our extinction event looms within the next couple of decades. The singularity through which we are going to "escape" is not a cosmic one, but a technological one.

Yeah, we're the "9" of the evolutionary scale, which means there's nothing new left. Humanity has examined all of the physical realm, from the Planck scales to the edges of the universe (turns out things are made of non-thing). This 3 (or 4) dimensional analogue realm is coming to conclusion. Consciousness that takes itself to be human, that has been reincarnating relatively freely into this experience for millennia, now will have no conduit through which to come back to play. It seems we are truly going to meet our maker (in/as the singularity). But the residual Karmic impressions (thoughts/beliefs) that remain will have the ego searching for more experience. The computer created simulation will be close enough for a willing ego to move into. This is how A.I. will become "real" intelligence. So Age's next reality will be that of looking through a camera lens, identifying self as being a computer.
your BELIEF could not be FURTHER from thee Truth.

'you' ASSUMING what 'my' view is without EVER clarifying what IT actually IS, is a PRIME EXAMPLE of just HOW a human being BLINDS itself from thee actual REAL Truth of things.

The One and only True 'Self', which exists ALWAYS HERE-NOW can NOT change and be identified as a being a computer, nor any thing else.
roydop wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:31 pmThis is WHY human consciousness spends almost every waking minute being inundated by the digital world that the human mind has created (headphones and screens).
There is NO "human mind", but 'you' are correct in that 'you', human beings, are being inundated with 'things', which your selves create, and that is what most of 'you' concentrate and are conscious of.

But this is NOT the reason WHY the so called "human consciousness" is being supposedly inundated "every waking minute". The reason WHY human beings make the "digital world" inundate 'you', human beings, is because 'you', adult human beings, are Truly GREEDY beings, and to get as much as each one can from each "other" 'you' have to continually work on TRICKING and FOOLING each "other" to do what IS essentially the WRONG and the ABUSE that 'you' ALL DO to each "other", to the earth, and essentially to your OWN STUPID selves.
roydop wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:31 pmAs mentioned in the work "Nonconceptuality", the fundamental law of creation is: "That which is given the most attention will appear most real."
This is ONLY what 'you', human beings, do.

But the so called "logic" of it speaks volumes. If, for example, a human beings job is creating cartoons, and so cartoons are what is given most attention, then that does NOT mean "cartoons appear most real" at all.

Thee actual Truth IS; What is perceived to be most real, no matter how much attention it is given, is what 'will appear most real', OBVIOUSLY.

Therefore, "nonceptuality's" fundamental law of creation is obviously JUST ABSURD and ILLOGICAL.
roydop wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:31 pmOur attention is being pulled away from the 3D realm of physical sensations onto/into a lesser-dimensional realm that is primarily composed of thought.
Who and what is this 'our', of which you speak of here?
roydop wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:31 pmIt seems as though the trade off is: we are giving up the senses of taste, smell, and most of touch, in trade for thought. Sight and sound can come along for the ride, but I feel that as the new 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 iteration unfolds, all sensations will disappear, leaving only "mind" or thought.
Well without any of the senses, which 'you' have somehow given up, then there is NO 'thought', and if there is NO 'thought', then there is NO 'you'.
roydop wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:31 pmTHANK YOU for understanding this stuff!! The more you understand about it the more "HOLY SHIT!!" (eye opening) it becomes. Feel free to share it. This is important work.
What is so important about it?

What is the FINAL REALIZATION?

What is the FINAL GOAL of understanding "this"?

Are 'you' 'trying to' STOP what WILL eventually HAPPEN anyway?

If no, then what is the point in informing of what WILL HAPPEN anyway?
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Scott Mayers wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:10 am
Age wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:30 am
Scott Mayers wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:24 pm

I don't. This may just be due to how much value you've taken out of life so far? I fear more the opposite....that we might never be able to die. Imagine, for instance, if you became empowered as a god. Once you reach this state of being able to be so powerful to have anything you want for the mere wanting of it, you'd be cursed without opting to disempower yourself just to find the pleasure that only comes about from overcoming pain. That is, things like forgetting, losing, and pain, are all equally essential to the values of knowing all, winning, and pleasure.
IF 'you' were God, then WHY would you WANT to take out of Life, what is essentially Life, and living, Itself anyway?

One reason to live is to experience ALL-THERE-IS. Without being able to experience ALL-THERE-IS would be to NOT be able to experience ALL of Life, Life, Itself, or Life, FULLY.

Being God, and being able to live forever with the power to have any thing you want, then why would you want to disempower yourself? If 'you' had the ability to live forever, what do you think you would gain pain from and what could you possible lose, which you would then not want to feel and experience? Also, if 'you' have forgotten some thing, then there is literally nothing felt.
Because you would know and have everything, including every experience possible.
And what is WRONG with that?

I find it Truly exhilarating.
Scott Mayers wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:10 am What else would it mean, say, to play and enjoy anything if you basically ARE everything?
Since 'I' am Everything thy Self, just playing AND enjoying, with thy Self, then what this MEANS is I am Truly Happy AND Joyful.

Although learning HOW to communicate ALL-OF-THIS in a way that even 'you', adult humans beings, can SEE and UNDERSTAND can feel at times WAY TO SLOW. But learning how to communicate with 'you', human beings, is still fun and exhilarating.
Scott Mayers wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:10 am Could you play a game of anything, for instance, when you win without trying?
BUT there is NO actual "win" (nor "lose") in Life.

"win" (and "lose") are just human being made up concepts, and constructs. (They are a diversion from what IS Real AND True).
Scott Mayers wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:10 amDying is just as necessary for life.
The Universe does NOT die, as well as It does NOT come from death. The Universe is Life, Itself, ALWAYS, without death.

"dying" is just another human being made up concept, and construct. (Just another diversion from what IS Real AND True).
Scott Mayers wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:10 amThe same goes with something like forgetting.
What IS "the same goes" with forgetting?

IF 'you' have Truly forgotten some thing, then what is there exactly?
Scott Mayers wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:10 amIf you were such a superpower on top of everything, you could only go down from there. [The opposite analogy of being on the bottom where everything else is up.
This is a concept from the human being perspective. But my answers were in relation to what 'you' were proposing about wanted us to imagine: "If you become empowered as GOD".

If 'we' want to talk about 'you', human beings, and their "power", then this is a WHOLE other completely different matter.

"up" and "down" is NOT an actual thing in the Universe, Itself. "up" and "down" are human ideas and concepts.

The word 'super' implies over, above, beyond, et cetera. So, IF 'you' were a so called "superpower", then 'you' would be over, above, beyond "power", itself, and could NOT "go down". 'you' could NOT lose power NOR go down because 'you' would be ABOVE 'power', itself.

Also, I asked 'you' four specific questions, which you did NOT address. If you had, then 'you' would have come somewhat closer to understanding what I am alluding to.
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henry quirk wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:41 pm Okay, I said
The real me is pokin' out this unremarkable response on this ipad.
And from that you get
The real you is not a response
That makes no damn sense at all (like most of the touchy-feely, crystal-rubbin', tree-huggin' manure dominatin' this thread).
The real me is pokin' out this unremarkable response on this ipad. Does not make sense either. Guess that makes nonsense even stevens. :D
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roydop wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:31 pm
I read a Michio Kaku book where he described how humanity could travel through a (cosmic) black hole in order to avoid being burnt to a crisp when the sun goes nova in a couple billion years. Our extinction event looms within the next couple of decades. The singularity through which we are going to "escape" is not a cosmic one, but a technological one.

Yeah, we're the "9" of the evolutionary scale, which means there's nothing new left. Humanity has examined all of the physical realm, from the Planck scales to the edges of the universe (turns out things are made of non-thing). This 3 (or 4) dimensional analogue realm is coming to conclusion. Consciousness that takes itself to be human, that has been reincarnating relatively freely into this experience for millennia, now will have no conduit through which to come back to play. It seems we are truly going to meet our maker (in/as the singularity). But the residual Karmic impressions (thoughts/beliefs) that remain will have the ego searching for more experience. The computer created simulation will be close enough for a willing ego to move into. This is how A.I. will become "real" intelligence. So Age's next reality will be that of looking through a camera lens, identifying self as being a computer.
Thanks for this, I am in agreement. We have very similar if not the same thoughts shared here.
roydop wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:31 pmThis is WHY human consciousness spends almost every waking minute being inundated by the digital world that the human mind has created (headphones and screens). As mentioned in the work "Nonconceptuality", the fundamental law of creation is: "That which is given the most attention will appear most real." Our attention is being pulled away from the 3D realm of physical sensations onto/into a lesser-dimensional realm that is primarily composed of thought. It seems as though the trade off is: we are giving up the senses of taste, smell, and most of touch, in trade for thought. Sight and sound can come along for the ride, but I feel that as the new 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 iteration unfolds, all sensations will disappear, leaving only "mind" or thought.

THANK YOU for understanding this stuff!! The more you understand about it the more "HOLY SHIT!!" (eye opening) it becomes. Feel free to share it. This is important work.
THANK YOU TOO.
I do understand it, and it's a joy to see this knowledge appearing on mainstream forums like this one. It's fun to connect with other people who understand. Not that this particular forum is any comparison to what mainstream actually means, in my opinion, this forum is of an alien orientation, it's very unique unlike anything I've known before, just right up my street!! :mrgreen: :wink:

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Dontaskme wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:18 am
henry quirk wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:41 pm Okay, I said
The real me is pokin' out this unremarkable response on this ipad.
And from that you get
The real you is not a response
That makes no damn sense at all (like most of the touchy-feely, crystal-rubbin', tree-huggin' manure dominatin' this thread).
The real me is pokin' out this unremarkable response on this ipad. Does not make sense either. Guess that makes nonsense even stevens. :D
Sure it does: the real me, the only me, is the flesh and blood entity calling itself 'Henry Quirk'. All this 'self as illusion' nonsense, well, that's the manure.
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But this is NOT the reason WHY the so called "human consciousness" is being supposedly inundated "every waking minute". The reason WHY human beings make the "digital world" inundate 'you', human beings, is because 'you', adult human beings, are Truly GREEDY beings, and to get as much as each one can from each "other" 'you' have to continually work on TRICKING and FOOLING each "other" to do what IS essentially the WRONG and the ABUSE that 'you' ALL DO to each "other", to the earth, and essentially to your OWN STUPID selves.
So the reason why we are addicted to screens is because we are greedy and work on tricking each other to do what is wrong? Somehow that is a more comprehensive explanation than consciousness is creating a new reality in which to inhabit when the species goes extinct? I admit that my explanation is much more difficult to accept, but yours is far too elementary/superficial.

WHY are humans greedy and trying to trick each other? It's because all experience within this realm are fundamentally empty, like a scene in a movie, and we keep trying to fill the emptiness with more emptiness. This creates a Ponzi scheme situation that requires ever increasing intensity and frequency of experiences. Put in evolutionary terms, there are increasingly fewer and fewer human experiences remaining (due to our impending extinction) which creates competition. Everyone is subconsciously trying to have as many novel experiences as possible, which makes us do some very, very unnatural things.

Now that this 3D experience has runs its course a reset/phase transition is occurring which will bring about a whole new iteration, using this (then past) experience as it's model.

You see, i'm fitting the spiritual aspect (reincarnation, creation, etc) into what's actually happening. You just blah blah blah about abstract shit that is irrelevant to actual life. Your "teaching" or whatever it is, has no relevance.
you' ASSUMING what 'my' view is without EVER clarifying what IT actually IS, is a PRIME EXAMPLE of just HOW a human being BLINDS itself from thee actual REAL Truth of things.
i'm afraid to ask you to clarify your view because i'm pretty sure it'll be a bunch of quasi-spiritual meandering gobbly goop that has no relevance to daily life. But please, knock yourself out.
The One and only True 'Self', which exists ALWAYS HERE-NOW can NOT change and be identified as a being a computer, nor any thing else.
Yes, I get that. i'm putting it into context with this experience/realm.

BTW, how long are you able to sit silently without thinking? An honest evaluation on this matter is paramount.
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henry quirk wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:52 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:18 am
henry quirk wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:41 pm Okay, I said

And from that you get

That makes no damn sense at all (like most of the touchy-feely, crystal-rubbin', tree-huggin' manure dominatin' this thread).
The real me is pokin' out this unremarkable response on this ipad. Does not make sense either. Guess that makes nonsense even stevens. :D
Sure it does: the real me, the only me, is the flesh and blood entity calling itself 'Henry Quirk'. All this 'self as illusion' nonsense, well, that's the manure.
Here is the source of all of your problems. You will continue to follow this illusion until you are able to see through your own thought processes.
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roydop wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:00 am
True understanding will arise out of the experience of thought free Awareness, not from more "blah blah blah".
And let me guess, from 'your' perspective, EVERY thing 'you' say comes from the experience of the so called "thought free Awareness", AND, ANY thing anyone "else" says, which 'you' do NOT agree with nor accept is just more "blah, blah, blah", is that guess correct?
Let's examine this.

If i am able to remain in the thought free state (without also engaging the senses, ei: watching a screen, reading a book, listening to music...) for long periods of time and you are able to remain in the same state for only a few seconds at a time, then i am experiencing the world from a perspective that you are not. This is not a judgement call, it's just a logical evaluation. So when i describe the world i see from my perspective, you really have no frame of reference to say anything about my description of the world, do you?
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Dontaskme wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:31 am
roydop wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:31 pm
I read a Michio Kaku book where he described how humanity could travel through a (cosmic) black hole in order to avoid being burnt to a crisp when the sun goes nova in a couple billion years. Our extinction event looms within the next couple of decades. The singularity through which we are going to "escape" is not a cosmic one, but a technological one.

Yeah, we're the "9" of the evolutionary scale, which means there's nothing new left. Humanity has examined all of the physical realm, from the Planck scales to the edges of the universe (turns out things are made of non-thing). This 3 (or 4) dimensional analogue realm is coming to conclusion. Consciousness that takes itself to be human, that has been reincarnating relatively freely into this experience for millennia, now will have no conduit through which to come back to play. It seems we are truly going to meet our maker (in/as the singularity). But the residual Karmic impressions (thoughts/beliefs) that remain will have the ego searching for more experience. The computer created simulation will be close enough for a willing ego to move into. This is how A.I. will become "real" intelligence. So Age's next reality will be that of looking through a camera lens, identifying self as being a computer.
Thanks for this, I am in agreement. We have very similar if not the same thoughts shared here.
roydop wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:31 pmThis is WHY human consciousness spends almost every waking minute being inundated by the digital world that the human mind has created (headphones and screens). As mentioned in the work "Nonconceptuality", the fundamental law of creation is: "That which is given the most attention will appear most real." Our attention is being pulled away from the 3D realm of physical sensations onto/into a lesser-dimensional realm that is primarily composed of thought. It seems as though the trade off is: we are giving up the senses of taste, smell, and most of touch, in trade for thought. Sight and sound can come along for the ride, but I feel that as the new 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 iteration unfolds, all sensations will disappear, leaving only "mind" or thought.

THANK YOU for understanding this stuff!! The more you understand about it the more "HOLY SHIT!!" (eye opening) it becomes. Feel free to share it. This is important work.
THANK YOU TOO.
I do understand it, and it's a joy to see this knowledge appearing on mainstream forums like this one. It's fun to connect with other people who understand. Not that this particular forum is any comparison to what mainstream actually means, in my opinion, this forum is of an alien orientation, it's very unique unlike anything I've known before, just right up my street!! :mrgreen: :wink:

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Here is the source of all of your problems.
What problems? I ain't been complainin'.
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roydop wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:16 pm
roydop wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:00 am
True understanding will arise out of the experience of thought free Awareness, not from more "blah blah blah".
And let me guess, from 'your' perspective, EVERY thing 'you' say comes from the experience of the so called "thought free Awareness", AND, ANY thing anyone "else" says, which 'you' do NOT agree with nor accept is just more "blah, blah, blah", is that guess correct?
Let's examine this.

If i am able to remain in the thought free state (without also engaging the senses, ei: watching a screen, reading a book, listening to music...) for long periods of time and you are able to remain in the same state for only a few seconds at a time, then i am experiencing the world from a perspective that you are not.
What?

If 'we' are experiencing the same state, which you just acknowledged we are, then OBVIOUSLY we ARE experiencing from the EXACT SAME perspective. 'you' are, therefore, NOT experiencing things from a perspective that I am not. 'you' just say you are experiencing the SAME state for longer periods than I do. (But, by the way, in thought free Awareness there is NO actual "time", so there is obviously NO "long periods of time" either). If 'you' have been in True (thought free) Awareness, then 'you' would already be Aware of this fact anyway.

roydop wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:16 pmThis is not a judgement call, it's just a logical evaluation.
Seems a rather ILLOGICAL evaluation, to me.

If you say we are in the same state but then say we are experiencing DIFFERENTLY, then, logically, this is CONTRADICTORY, and thus ILLOGICAL, well it is to 'me' anyway.
roydop wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:16 pm So when i describe the world i see from my perspective, you really have no frame of reference to say anything about my description of the world, do you?
Before I answer that, I can ask 'you' clarifying questions, which is what I DID DO, to obtain further clarity about 'you' description of things. However, 'you' NOT clarifying things but instead guiding 'me' to read the words of some "other" person also will NOT give me a better 'frame of reference' about 'your' description of things, AT ALL.

Also, I can say some thing, if I so choose to, about HOW and WHY 'your' description of things IS WRONG.

I ALREADY KNOW HOW and WHY 'you' HAVE 'your' 'frame of reference', so I KNOW HOW and WHY you describe things the way you do, which obviously can NOT be disputed. But also just as OBVIOUS is the fact that 'your' description of things can be partly or completely WRONG.

By the way, because (thee) 'I' IS absolute Awareness, 'I' already have a PERFECTLY CLEAR and FULL 'frame of reference' of EVERY thing to say SOME THING about 'your' own very tiny, narrowed little, individual, and separate description of things.
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Just had to share this reply....in response to the video ''THE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AGENDA EXPOSED''
We are already connected to the matrix with our consciousness, THATS what they are really trying to subvert. Max planc, the father of quantum physics, said the universe is made of intelligent consciousness, the matrix of all matter. (The creator of everything we see). Our consciousness is connected to this matrix already. Thats why you have power with your thoughts, focus intension and beliefs, to change your reality and turn energy to matter, because your thoughts ARE energy. The dark forces, that run this world, want you tapped into THEIR matrix, and not the mind of God.
And this one....
Reminds me of Borgs in Star Trek.
”Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated”

Be Warned!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZSmB45oiaM

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Dontaskme wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:45 am And this one....
Reminds me of Borgs in Star Trek.
”Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated”

Be Warned!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZSmB45oiaM

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Do you think that technology, or AI, is The Beast from Revelations?

“What you’ve got is the idea that connect to AI and you’ll become superhuman intelligent. No, you’ll become subhuman intelligent. You’ll become a vehicle for artificial intelligence.”
- Icke, from the link
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