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artisticsolution wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:15 pm I only speak the truth.

Dream on. Not with those pronouns.

Why can't you at least pass a law that only allows one gun to be owned at time and make them shotguns? A la Henry.

I mean how hard would it be to create a national database to enforce this?

Now I can hear the standard cry "but the criminals will still get more" but so what, you've got your shotgun and loons like the Las Vegas killer wouldn't have the means to murder so many people or at least not so easily.

Arising_uk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:41 pm Why can't you at least pass a law that only allows one gun to be owned at time and make them shotguns? A la Henry.

I mean how hard would a national database be to enforce this be?

Now I can hear the standard cry "but the criminals will still get more" but so what, you've got your shotgun and loons like the Las Vegas killer wouldn't have the means to murder so many people or at least not so easily.

Different weapons have different uses.
Shotguns are short range.

And then there's that pesky constitution.
It's all held together by "shall not be infringed."

Look at the physical consequences of those words.
Just words?

Change that to shall be infringed, and start confiscating.

Walker wrote:...
And then there's that pesky constitution.
It's all held together by "shall not be infringed."

Look at the physical consequences of those words.
Just words? ...

You've amended your constitution umpteen times. Still, it does point out the problem of having a codified constitution in the face of a changing world with different problems.

Arising_uk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:56 pm

Walker wrote:...
And then there's that pesky constitution.
It's all held together by "shall not be infringed."

Look at the physical consequences of those words.
Just words? ...

You've amended your constitution umpteen times. Still, it does point out the problem of having a codified constitution in the face of a changing world with different problems.

No, it illustrates the corruption caused by The Great Society, not the intent of the Great Society, but the Progressive corruption of the intent.

The disease is not guns. There have always been guns.

Guns are the symptom.

Example: Chicago.

Most of your gun-nutters are right-wing and anti-progressive(whatever the hell shit this 'progressive' means as it's all Yank to me), you now calling them victims?

Walker wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:01 pm
The disease is not guns. There have always been guns.

Guns are the symptom.

Example: Chicago.

I actually agree The whole country mind-set is sick and diseased and has been for a long time. Canada has high gun ownership but has an obviously more mature and sophisticated population.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:07 pm
I actually agree

I've never actually been able to tell whether I agree with Walker or not.

Harbal wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:11 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:07 pm
I actually agree

I've never actually been able to tell whether I agree with Walker or not.

You can occasionally rejumble the words to be something you can agree with

Hobbes' Choice wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:41 pm Fishing, Flying, Hunting, Driving. All require licences in the USA.

Don't forget elevator inspectors.

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:25 am
... (and I'm calling it terrorism). ...

This guy knows how to ask questions.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-0 ... ant-talk-a

Should we be reading this stuff?

Walker wrote:This guy knows how to ask questions.

Stupid ones for sure. Do you think he likes answers as much?

#1 How can he tell its a 'suicide note'?

Did it have big writing on the front? "MY SUICIDE NOTE"

Does he really expect your police force to release what could be material evidence to the public so early in an investigation?

#2 And yet there are other clips showing this light flashing before the shooting?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZwofXcgzh9/

Not exactly Sherlock Holmes is he.

#3 Could it be because it wasn't true?

#4 Is this Jon Rappoport a weapons trainer? As apparently he's completely wrong and an accountant can kill a lot of people with a fully automatic sub-machine gun if he's firing into a big enough crowd from a height. In fact I'm surprised he didn't kill more.

#5 He booked in with 10 bags is how. He also booked in on the 28th of Sept so he could have just brought them up a few at a time from his car.

#6 Apparently he's been collecting weapons for quite a while. Now given in your wonderful country you can go and find a site or even a deserted place to practice firing them you think he wouldn't have practiced?

#7 She knew what band was going to be on at that time.

I seriously doubt this is true but if it was there are nutters in all large gatherings.

#8
10:05pm: First shots fired by the suspect
10:12pm: First officers arrived on the 31st floor and announced gunfire coming from above them
10:15pm: Last shots fired by the suspect
10:17pm: First two officers arrive on the 32nd floor of the hotel, where Paddock's room was
10:18pm: Security officer tells the officers he was shot and gives the exact location of the suspect's room
10:26-10:30pm: Eight additional officers arrive on the 32nd floor and begin to move systematically down the hallway, clearing each room and looking for injured people
10:55pm: Eight officers arrive at the stairwell in the opposite ends of the hallway nearest the suspect's room
11:20pm: The first breach was off and officers entered the suspect's room, where he was seen lying on the ground

They got there in 12 minutes but he'd stopped firing so they followed procedure.

#9 Because he knew he was likely to die and wanted to leave her better off?

#10 Because he sent her there as a holiday presumably a pretext so she wouldn't be involved.

And no, she apparently had no idea what he was going to do.

#11 wtf? Some other wacko conspiracy theory?

#12 Because ISIS aren't stupid and neither is the FBI, unlike this 'journalist'.

#13 The American dream writ large.

#14 Do you think millions of dollars through real estate deals might give one a clue?

#15 I take it this guy never leaves his basement. As if he did he'd know how large festivals are conducted nowadays.

#16 He had good musical taste?

So only trump supporters and republicans can like country music? What a bigoted knob.

And here's the real reason why he has 'news' blogged all this stuff.

Should we be reading this stuff?

Sure if you're a conspiracy nutjob with a right-wing agenda and one with no empathy or compassion to the victims or their relatives in their time of grief.

Congratulations! You have managed a new low.

Does anyone still think Americans are sane? Every time this happens (and it's a lot) the pro gunners claim it was all fake and a conspiracy by the few normal people to take their gunny wunnies off OF OF OF them. Imagine all the fake funerals, fake grief, and all those actors having to hide out for the rest of their lives, or assume fake identities and all the intricate web of deceit that entails. (And yes, there are videos saying the gunfire sound was a recording, and that there were no bullets found on the ground blah, blah, blah....)

Apparently having a 'flabby physique' is strong evidence that the latest shooting was a 'false flag' because of course people with 'flabby physiques' can't possibly use guns (must be why the US always loses against lean and fit village guerillas). Hmm, and here was I thinking you only need a couple of working fingers and even without that you could probably think of some other way to operate them (they would have to be made idiot-proof for obvious reasons).

Arising_uk wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:19 pm

Walker wrote:This guy knows how to ask questions.

Stupid ones for sure. Do you think he likes answers as much?

That’s rich, coming from you.

The authorities say he must have had help.
Are they wacko conspirators? And low?

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:31 pm Does anyone still think Americans are sane? Every time this happens (and it's a lot) the pro gunners claim it was all fake and a conspiracy by the few normal people to take their gunny wunnies off OF OF OF them. Imagine all the fake funerals, fake grief, and all those actors having to hide out for the rest of their lives, or assume fake identities and all the intricate web of deceit that entails. (And yes, there are videos saying the gunfire sound was a recording, and that there were no bullets found on the ground blah, blah, blah....)

Apparently having a 'flabby physique' is strong evidence that the latest shooting was a 'false flag' because of course people with 'flabby physiques' can't possibly use guns (must be why the US always loses against lean and fit village guerillas). Hmm, and here was I thinking you only need a couple of working fingers and even without that you could probably think of some other way to operate them (they would have to be made idiot-proof for obvious reasons).

Imagine all the fake reasoning, incoherence, venom and hate. It isn't hard to do.