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But we're certainly not "men", "real" men march in lockstep to their true nature.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:46 pm"Self" identity is a misnomer. We seem to be pawns in your game of metaphysical naming. We can be witches or elves or trolls or goblins or something and you can be the saint coming to the rescue by purging the world of our diseases.
He just needs it to not actually be called that. He cites a long list of neo-nazis, but they have to be referred to by some delicate euphemism such as "dissident". Likewise he is talking in that passage you highlighted about racial seperatism and he is suggesting that it is manly guard against race mixing, but he cannot say as much directly, he must drop hints.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:42 pmIs there such a thing as "good" Nazism?Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:37 pm In this context more rational, less irrational. More sober or grounded, less emotionally moved (as you seem to be).
There is nothing unethical in any of the 4 topics I presented. But you •hear• in them grave evils and like Flash resort to the Nazi trope.
I suggest this is programming more than sound, considered thought.
Flash concords:
Self-identity, self-definition = evil Nazism.It's not about war, it's about blood and soil. He's equating masculinity with sacrifice for the greater good of the one race, one folk, and all that shit.
Just like calling people "faggots" or "weaklings".Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:48 pm The term Nazi is a trope-word. An underhanded, unethical rhetorical usage that really has no meaning.
Same with Nazis I guess.Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:52 pm A faggot is a faggot when you think about it.
And so is a weakling.
So let me get this straight: you the moral subjectivist, the anti-moralist, wish to discuss what is evil and what is good?!?however, he has zero problem identifying me as evil, but is unable to identify Hitler as evil
Yes: the Nazis were definitely Nazis.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:52 pmSame with Nazis I guess.Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:52 pm A faggot is a faggot when you think about it.
And so is a weakling.
Sorry, I ought to say xenophobes are xenophobes, I suppose. \_(*_*)_/Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:54 pmYes: the Nazis were definitely Nazis.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:52 pmSame with Nazis I guess.Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:52 pm A faggot is a faggot when you think about it.
And so is a weakling.
So if you do not approve of my social conduct, or my ethical stance, some course of action is justified, in order to bring those things more in line with what you consider acceptable? Is that what you mean?Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:23 pmAny ideological position, say about social conduct and ethics, involves ideas or aspirations that in relation to one can take action.
If the project is, for example, renovation of the corrupted self, then some remedial choices will be taken. That means “action”. (But ceasing to act in some area can also be seen as action, if you get my point).
Those people today (in politics, in social affairs) who propose remediation do so in relation to actionable ideas.
Clear now?
I can easily say Hitler was evil, I can give reasons and provide a rationale. Likewise, I can say that your dishonesty matches that of Immanuel Can, and that this makes you a weak and sad little shit stain of a man. None of this results in inconsistency with my meta-ethical claims regarding the logical status of ethical popositions. You have no understanding of meta-ethics at all, and cannot sustain any such conversation. Also you will sulk again if I mention a bunch of books on the matter, so what's the point of fronting like that?Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:54 pmSo let me get this straight: you the moral subjectivist, the anti-moralist, wish to discuss what is evil and what is good?!?however, he has zero problem identifying me as evil, but is unable to identify Hitler as evil
What a trip!
xenophobia. noun. xe·no·pho·bia ˌzen-ə-ˈfō-bē-ə ˌzēn- : fear and hatred of strangers or foreigners or of anything that is strange or foreign.
A false comparison. Convenient, but false.Likewise, I can say that your dishonesty matches that of Immanuel Can, and that this makes you a weak and sad little shit stain of a man.
I don't know. I'm 56 years old, not a child and yet I can see fair reasons for Flash's point. Oh, wait, I'm being "childish". Metaphysics according to AJ.Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2024 7:11 pm The topic of who, and what, is evil is one that can only be broached in a spirit of fairness and balance.
Unless of course one is deeply involved and committed to underhanded rhetorics.
You entire argument (quote/unquote) is now established in this form: Either you declare that •Hitler is Evil• …
… or I will assert this indicates you are associated with that Ontological Malevolence, are a supporter of Hitler, and are as evil.
Grownups don’t play in these sand pits.