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Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 11:36 am

Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:45 amDo you have an objective metric for where the fence is; or are you just being a dumb philosopher?

If those are the only options, then I am just being a dumb philosopher.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:45 amHere's my objective metric for where my fence is: monad(0.5)

Hence:

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:11 am

Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:51 amBelief: Either: A > B OR B > A

So: A+bee fart > B therefore Skepdick, the bee fart counting wanker, believes A
OR B+bee fart > A therefore Skepdick, the bee fart counting wanker, believes B

And:

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:49 pm

Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:36 pmThis is a principled statement. IF. Conditional.

That's right Skepdick. IF a bee fart blew your way, it would knock you off the fence. You keep affirming the very thing you are denying. You can only do that if you are completely batshit crazy.

Willus Ignoramus.

IF is a conditional/computational statement.

Why are you failing to grasp the sheer magnitude of the "bee fart" in proportion to the size of the fence?

I can only explain it to you, I can't understand it for you.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 11:39 amThis is a principled statement. IF. Conditional.

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:49 pm That's right Skepdick. IF a bee fart blew your way, it would knock you off the fence. You keep affirming the very thing you are denying. You can only do that if you are completely batshit crazy.

Willus Ignoramus.

IF is a conditional/computational statement.

Right. And you have already told me what would happen in the event of that condition being met:

Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:54 amA bee fart would sway me - (future tense)

I suspect it is a symptom of your personality disorder that prevents you from seeing what utter bollocks you are writing.

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:22 pm

Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 11:39 amThis is a principled statement. IF. Conditional.

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:49 pm That's right Skepdick. IF a bee fart blew your way, it would knock you off the fence. You keep affirming the very thing you are denying. You can only do that if you are completely batshit crazy.

Willus Ignoramus.

IF is a conditional/computational statement.

Right. And you have already told me what would happen in the event of that condition being met:

Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:54 amA bee fart would sway me - (future tense)

I suspect it is a symptom of your personality disorder that prevents you from seeing what utter bollocks you are writing.

Moving away from the abstract, could you give me a a concrete example of such an event - an event that would meed the condition. In proportion to the size of fence.

I suspect the "bollocks" you have in mind is all occupuing the space between your ears.

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:06 am Is your balance so precarious that 49/51 would topple you?

Here is where you begin pretending that when you said 49/51 you had a really tiny and insignificant event in mind; instead of something infinite orders of magnitude larger than our universe.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:24 pmHere is where you begin pretending that when you said 49/51 you had a really small and insignificant event in mind....

Bollocks:

Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 1:34 pmX=Y is suspension of judgment
X > Y is a judgment.
X < Y is a judgment.

And:

Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:54 amA bee fart would sway me - (future tense)

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:34 pm

Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:24 pmHere is where you begin pretending that when you said 49/51 you had a really small and insignificant event in mind....

Bollocks:

Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 1:34 pmX=Y is suspension of judgment
X > Y is a judgment.
X < Y is a judgment.

And:

Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:54 amA bee fart would sway me - (future tense)

Bollocks to your bollocks.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 12:20 pm 49.000...1/51.999..9 wouldn't topple me.
49.000...2/51.999..8 wouldn't topple me.
49.000...3/51.999..7 wouldn't topple me.
49.000...4/51.999..6 wouldn't topple me.
....
49.9/51.1 wouldn't topple me.

But 49/51 just breaks the camel's back.

49.000...1/51.999..9 = monad(0.5)
49.9/51.1 = monad(0.5)
49/51 < monad(0.5)

You have zero sense or intuition about proportion.

I can only explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:36 pmYou have zero sense or intuition about proportion.

Ha!

Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:54 amA bee fart would sway me - (future tense)

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 1:22 pm

Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:36 pmYou have zero sense or intuition about proportion.

Ha!

Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:54 amA bee fart would sway me - (future tense)

And? Is a bee fart infinitesimally small or infinitely large?

Zero sense of proportion. Q.E.D

I think he's got it!

Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 1:02 pm...the English meaning of "bee fart" (connoting small and insignificant)...

Oops, he dropped it.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 1:33 pmIs a bee fart infinitesimally small or infinitely large?

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 1:46 pm I think he's got it!

Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 1:02 pm...the English meaning of "bee fart" (connoting small and insignificant)...

Oops, he dropped it.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 1:33 pmIs a bee fart infinitesimally small or infinitely large?

So close, yet so far.

He thinks connotation denotes objective size.

What an idiot.

I think the volume of flatulence would be much different between bee species due to their varying sizes. Are we talking about a bumblebee or like a smaller yellow jacket?

Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 1:52 pm

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 1:46 pm I think he's got it!

Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 1:02 pm...the English meaning of "bee fart" (connoting small and insignificant)...

Oops, he dropped it.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 1:33 pmIs a bee fart infinitesimally small or infinitely large?

So close, yet so far.

He thinks connotation denotes objective size.

What an idiot.

Ha! "small and insignificant" relative to what?

promethean75 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 1:54 pm I think the volume of flatulence would be much different between bee species due to their varying sizes. Are we talking about a bumblebee or like a smaller yellow jacket?

I’m getting dizzy, reviewing the thread to find out what the significance of the bee fart analogy is. Would anyone care to explain it for me?

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 1:59 pm Ha! "small and insignificant" relative to what?

And the light turns on... but I doubt anybody's home yet.

commonsense wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 2:01 pm I’m getting dizzy, reviewing the thread to find out what the significance of the bee fart analogy is. Would anyone care to explain it for me?

Willus Ignoramus fell of the fence-sitter's fence.

Now he's trying to recover with the usual, predictable language games/impotent philosophical bait-and-switch traps.

If that's the case, would u be so kind Mr. Bouwman as to commit a few informal fallacies as well? I very much enjoy red herrings, strawmen, ad hom and especially moving the goal posts.