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Re: Personhood to Apes BEFORE Corporations!

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:32 pm
by Arising_uk
chaz wyman wrote:Did you catch the Royal Institution Xmas Science lectures for children this year?
I didn't, was it good?

My dad used to take me when I was young, brilliant!

I thank you as it's made my realise I should(will) take my kids next year.

Re: Personhood to Apes BEFORE Corporations!

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:36 pm
by Arising_uk
You image of evolution is exactly whats wrong with your(and many others, mainly Americans it seems) understanding of the process. As we did not evolve from chimps, we are primates like them, we evolved from a past common ancestor, they are our 'cousins' in a sense.

Re: Personhood to Apes BEFORE Corporations!

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:19 pm
by chaz wyman
Arising_uk wrote:
chaz wyman wrote:Did you catch the Royal Institution Xmas Science lectures for children this year?
I didn't, was it good?

My dad used to take me when I was young, brilliant!

I thank you as it's made my realise I should(will) take my kids next year.
They tend to be a bit more 'fun' and a little less formal than previous years. But highly recommended.
This year it was psychology.
I have the excuse still - my son is 16 - don't I don't think it will stop us watching even when we are both 'too old'.

Some of the details repeated the illusions from this years "Horizon"; they talking about Phineas the man with a steel pole through his head; they did the get the sheep, the dog, and the hay across the river puzzle; brain scans - all good fun.

Re: Personhood to Apes BEFORE Corporations!

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:13 am
by Bill Wiltrack
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Re: Personhood to Apes BEFORE Corporations!

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:14 pm
by chaz wyman
Bill Wiltrack wrote:.


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This is about what I understand human evolution to be.
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This is an image of a route that is impossible, taken from an image that is a misrepresentation.

That would mean that your understanding is false.

THIS IMAGE shows a false and ego-centric conception of progress which misrepresents evolution.
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Evolution is about change, not progress. It is multibranched and not linear.


Your image above implies that we can re-race the route backwards. This is impossible.

Re: Personhood to Apes BEFORE Corporations!

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:28 pm
by chaz wyman
Arising_uk wrote:You image of evolution is exactly whats wrong with your(and many others, mainly Americans it seems) understanding of the process. As we did not evolve from chimps, we are primates like them, we evolved from a past common ancestor, they are our 'cousins' in a sense.
So are you an ape on your mother's side or your father's side?

Re: Personhood to Apes BEFORE Corporations!

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:02 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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This is about what I understand human evolution to be.








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I apologize about the first two stock images I used. Apparently they do not reflect that hominoids are descendants of a common ancestor.




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Re: Personhood to Apes BEFORE Corporations!

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:32 am
by Arising_uk
Bill Wiltrack wrote:This [wiki url to evolution] is about what I understand human evolution to be. ...
Posting a link to wiki is not a demonstration of understanding. Have you read it all the way through? I doubt it and the reason why I doubt it is the earlier posts you made showing that you hadn't understood it even if you had read it.

Re: Personhood to Apes BEFORE Corporations!

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:59 am
by chaz wyman
Arising_uk wrote:
Bill Wiltrack wrote:This [wiki url to evolution] is about what I understand human evolution to be. ...
Posting a link to wiki is not a demonstration of understanding. Have you read it all the way through? I doubt it and the reason why I doubt it is the earlier posts you made showing that you hadn't understood it even if you had read it.

I quite liked the images which show a black skin rather than a white one.

Obviously there is no way to say whether our ancestors and white or black skin - or accurately when the sundering of skin colour occurred, but generally black or 'yellow' skin is far more useful to hunter/gatherers than white. It's high time that the Eurocentric view was modified by a bit of reasoning.
White skin is far more likely to be the result of sexual selection as living inside is a mark of wealth and position.

Re: Personhood to Apes BEFORE Corporations!

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:46 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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Re: Personhood to Apes BEFORE Corporations!

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:51 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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Re: Personhood to Apes BEFORE Corporations!

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:49 pm
by chaz wyman
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Dear oh dear what awful cultural prejudices.
Russia and Europe are not exclusive BTW.
And the Russia Federation has been more keen to disarm nukes than the US in recent years.

Re: Personhood to Apes BEFORE Corporations!

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:07 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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Re: Personhood to Apes BEFORE Corporations!

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:23 pm
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Re: Personhood to Apes BEFORE Corporations!

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:17 pm
by Arising_uk
Sounds a bit fishy to me.