Bill Maher Trump dinner

[Pistolero]

After watching Maher describe his meeting with Trump, I am confirmed that in America only the most gifted liars make it over the 'glass ceiling.'
One must 'sell oneself to the devil,' and the devils are known by name and heritage.

In the Empire of Lies, there is a meritocracy of liars.
The American dream is accessible to all, as it is in many nations...so it isn't an exclusively American dream....
But, to make it to the upper echelons of power, one must be of a particular kind.

[accelafine]

Have you seen these "men" crossing the English channel into rafts - very rarely is there a woman or child aboard. They are ALL fighting age men, abandoning women and children and let's not forget - they had plenty of 'asylum' in every country on the way. The reason these MEN want to get to UK is for freebie handouts, accomadation etc...they contribute nothing to society.

Look up the stats on immigrants that actually bother to get a job in UK. Look up the stats per capita of their terrible violence inflicted towards women and children within the countries of Europe they arrive in.

In Italy alone, average 5 women are raped by immigrants EVERY day. They come from Africa and Middle East, from cultures where women are not seen as equals, but mere property, breeding machines for their Islamic ideology.

Europe/UK is being undermined by these "men" because of do gooders that think they need our help. NO they don't. They should never have abandoned the women and children they left behind in the first place. They see Western women as the lowest of the low...and that's a fact.

They have no allegiance, no assimilation, no love for the people or the country they intend to bum off. Yet the hard working tax paying British people, that have shown in polling they want them out - even those that vote for the disgusting Labour party (who allow them in and suck up to them to eventually get their vote) - even those in polling have come to their senses and want them deported.

Makes you wonder what kind of bubble he's living in. I thought everyone had seen those 'rafts' full to bursting with young, healthy men

Oh I’ve seen the rafts. I’ve also seen the smug, sneering commentary from people who think watching suffering through a screen gives them the full story. You see a boat of frightened, exhausted men and conclude, “freeloaders.” I see people who’ve likely endured torture, war, persecution, or years in refugee camps—people who left everything because staying meant dying. And you think the outrage is that they’re too healthy?

Let me spell this out for you: Men often go ahead first because it’s dangerous. Because if anyone’s going to risk drowning, freezing, or getting turned back at gunpoint, it's them—not their wives and children. And yes, they’re hoping to bring their families later, once it’s safe. That’s not abandonment. That’s sacrifice. But hey, if your worldview only has room for cartoons, I guess “cowards invading for handouts” is easier to swallow than “desperate humans trying to survive.”

As for your cherry-picked crime stats—if you’re really that concerned about violence, start with the homegrown variety. Domestic abuse, mass shootings, hate crimes—guess what? No boats required.

What this boils down to is fear. You’re afraid of people who look different, pray differently, or speak another language. So instead of admitting that fear, you slap on a mask of moral outrage and shout about “assimilation” while parroting far-right talking points with zero nuance and zero humanity.

And to accelafine—thanks again for chiming in with your usual giggle and emoji, confirming once more that when faced with human lives at stake, you’re more comfortable cracking jokes than facing the mirror.

This isn’t a “bubble.” It’s a reality you refuse to face because it doesn’t fit your small, spite-soaked worldview.

Who are you talking to? I haven't posted any crime stats.

[attofishpi]

39% of British Muslims expect wives to obey them.
23% of British Muslims want Sharia Law.

The are what the boatloads of ""MEN"" that the likes of BigMike are happy to settle among the freedoms (soon to be voted out) of Western democratic societies..ISLAMIC IDEOLOGY imported to make BigMike feel good that he's helping THEM, forget about the local women that they despise..as if they're sluts because they are not coverered head to toe in some black sheet..




1. Marriage and sex with pre-menstrual girls (children) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIsRJ3hiHpE
Introduction to Surah
65. At-Talâq

4. And those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the 'Iddah (prescribed period), if you have doubts (about their periods), is three months, and for those who have no courses [(i.e. they are still immature) their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise, except in case of death][] . And for those who are pregnant (whether they are divorced or their husbands are dead), their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is until they deliver (their burdens), and whosoever fears Allâh and keeps his duty to Him, He will make his matter easy for him.


(*girls as young as 8 are permitted to be raped by Islamic *any* "men" - that is HAPPENING RIGHT NOW because of MorHamMad)


2. Killing of non-believers
Surah 9:29: "Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah [tax] willingly while they are humbled."

“Kill them [unbelievers] wherever you find them… And fight them until there is no more unbelief and worship is for Allah alone” (Quran 2:191-193).

“Strike off their heads and strike from them every fingertip” (Quran 8:12).

“Allah has purchased from the believers their lives and their properties; in exchange for that they will have Paradise. They fight in the cause of Allah, so they slay and are slain” (Quran 9:111).

“Truly Allah loves those who fight in His cause in battle array…” (Quran 61:4)

“The Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah” (Sahih Muslim 1:33).

Mohammed’s last words: 'Allah cursed the Jews and the Christians because they took the graves of their Prophets as places for praying."


3. Killing apostates
Bukhari[52:260] "...The Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

Quran[4:89] "They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them, until they emigrate in the way of God; then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as friend or helper."


4. Rape of captured women enemies
Qur’an 4:24 permits intercourse with women captured in jihad (holy war). The verse states: “And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess.” This implies that female captives can be taken as concubines or wives by Muslim men after they have been captured in battle.

[BigMike]

39% of British Muslims expect wives to obey them.
23% of British Muslims want Sharia Law.

The are what the boatloads of ""MEN"" that the likes of BigMike are happy to settle among the freedoms (soon to be voted out) of Western democratic societies..ISLAMIC IDEOLOGY imported to make BigMike feel good that he's helping THEM, forget about the local women that they despise..as if they're sluts because they are not coverered head to toe in some black sheet..




1. Marriage and sex with pre-menstrual girls (children) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIsRJ3hiHpE
Introduction to Surah
65. At-Talâq

4. And those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the 'Iddah (prescribed period), if you have doubts (about their periods), is three months, and for those who have no courses [(i.e. they are still immature) their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise, except in case of death][] . And for those who are pregnant (whether they are divorced or their husbands are dead), their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is until they deliver (their burdens), and whosoever fears Allâh and keeps his duty to Him, He will make his matter easy for him.


(*girls as young as 8 are permitted to be raped by Islamic *any* "men" - that is HAPPENING RIGHT NOW because of MorHamMad)


2. Killing of non-believers
Surah 9:29: "Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah [tax] willingly while they are humbled."

“Kill them [unbelievers] wherever you find them… And fight them until there is no more unbelief and worship is for Allah alone” (Quran 2:191-193).

“Strike off their heads and strike from them every fingertip” (Quran 8:12).

“Allah has purchased from the believers their lives and their properties; in exchange for that they will have Paradise. They fight in the cause of Allah, so they slay and are slain” (Quran 9:111).

“Truly Allah loves those who fight in His cause in battle array…” (Quran 61:4)

“The Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah” (Sahih Muslim 1:33).

Mohammed’s last words: 'Allah cursed the Jews and the Christians because they took the graves of their Prophets as places for praying."


3. Killing apostates
Bukhari[52:260] "...The Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

Quran[4:89] "They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them, until they emigrate in the way of God; then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as friend or helper."


4. Rape of captured women enemies
Qur’an 4:24 permits intercourse with women captured in jihad (holy war). The verse states: “And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess.” This implies that female captives can be taken as concubines or wives by Muslim men after they have been captured in battle.

Ah, the mask comes off.

This isn’t about immigration, safety, or national identity. This is unfiltered bigotry—an unhinged, cherry-picked tirade aimed not at understanding a global humanitarian issue, but at demonizing an entire religion of over a billion people.

What you’ve posted isn’t an argument. It’s a paranoid screed stitched together from out-of-context quotes, YouTube links, and decades-old Islamophobic propaganda. You’re not here to protect anyone—you’re here to spew fear and justify hate.

You don’t care about women’s rights. You don’t care about children. You don’t care about democracy. You just want a scapegoat. And you’ve found one in desperate people fleeing war, hunger, and violence.

No one’s buying this cartoonish vision of “invading armies of rapists.” The only thing you’ve made clear is how willing you are to dehumanize others to prop up your own fragile sense of righteousness.

If your ideology requires this level of bile to sustain itself, it’s already bankrupt. And everyone reading knows it.

[attofishpi]

No one’s buying this cartoonish vision of “invading armies of rapists.” The only thing you’ve made clear is how willing you are to dehumanize others to prop up your own fragile sense of righteousness.

Proof that you are an idiot. The only Muslim (godelian) on the forum agrees with all of what I quoted about Islamic ideology. He agrees that children that have menstruated are ok for men to have sex with, even as young as 8 years old.

That's just ONE Muslim, that happens to have that opinion, and he's right here on this very forum, you total smug SAP. 1 in how many billion?

[BigMike]

No one’s buying this cartoonish vision of “invading armies of rapists.” The only thing you’ve made clear is how willing you are to dehumanize others to prop up your own fragile sense of righteousness.

Proof that you are an idiot. The only Muslim (godelian) on the forum agrees with all of what I quoted about Islamic ideology. He agrees that children that have menstruated are ok for men to have sex with, even as young as 8 years old.

That's just ONE Muslim, that happens to have that opinion, and he's right here on this very forum, you total smug SAP. 1 in how many billion?

Let’s clear this up once and for all: I’m not defending any religion. I’m an atheist and a determinist. I don’t believe in gods, prophets, or holy books—and I certainly don’t excuse harmful practices wrapped in religious language.

But unlike you, I can tell the difference between criticizing ideas and dehumanizing entire populations. You take one disturbing statement from one individual and use it as fuel to smear over a billion people—many of whom also reject that interpretation, fight against it, or have fled from regimes enforcing it.

That’s not evidence. That’s bigotry dressed up as outrage.

You’re not exposing anything except your own inability to argue with nuance, your addiction to fear-driven narratives, and your eagerness to paint entire cultures with the brush of their worst representatives.

If you want to talk ideology, let’s talk. But if all you’ve got is “one guy said something awful, therefore everyone like him is dangerous”—you’re not here to debate. You’re here to hate.

[Age]

39% of British Muslims expect wives to obey them.

It could also be said and argued that 100% of adults expect children to obey them.

And, is that a 'good' thing, or a 'bad' thing, to 'you', an adult?

Also, your absolute hatred of 'those' with different views or beliefs from your very own personal religious ones "attofishpi" is very clear and evident.

[attofishpi]

No one’s buying this cartoonish vision of “invading armies of rapists.” The only thing you’ve made clear is how willing you are to dehumanize others to prop up your own fragile sense of righteousness.

Proof that you are an idiot. The only Muslim (godelian) on the forum agrees with all of what I quoted about Islamic ideology. He agrees that children that have menstruated are ok for men to have sex with, even as young as 8 years old.

That's just ONE Muslim, that happens to have that opinion, and he's right here on this very forum, you total smug SAP. 1 in how many billion?

But unlike you, I can tell the difference between criticizing ideas and dehumanizing entire populations. You take one disturbing statement from one individual and use it as fuel to smear over a billion people—many of whom also reject that interpretation, fight against it, or have fled from regimes enforcing it.

One individual? Are you talking about godelian with his outright belief that the Quran is the word of Allah, or are you talking about Mohammed himself?

That’s not evidence. That’s bigotry dressed up as outrage.

When an extremely large proportion of a billion Muslims believe in what I quoted is the word of Allah, and that gives them the right to kill non believers and rape little children, I am outraged. I am also outraged at your idiocy to consider my concerns about this evil ideology as me being a "bigot".

U R A FOOL.

[BigMike]

Proof that you are an idiot. The only Muslim (godelian) on the forum agrees with all of what I quoted about Islamic ideology. He agrees that children that have menstruated are ok for men to have sex with, even as young as 8 years old.

That's just ONE Muslim, that happens to have that opinion, and he's right here on this very forum, you total smug SAP. 1 in how many billion?

But unlike you, I can tell the difference between criticizing ideas and dehumanizing entire populations. You take one disturbing statement from one individual and use it as fuel to smear over a billion people—many of whom also reject that interpretation, fight against it, or have fled from regimes enforcing it.

One individual? Are you talking about godelian with his outright belief that the Quran is the word of Allah, or are you talking about Mohammed himself?

That’s not evidence. That’s bigotry dressed up as outrage.

When an extremely large proportion of a billion Muslims believe in what I quoted is the word of Allah, and that gives them the right to kill non believers and rape little children, I am outraged. I am also outraged at your idiocy to consider my concerns about this evil ideology as me being a "bigot".

U R A FOOL.

Thanks for the all-caps finale—always a strong sign when someone’s argument has completely run out of gas.

Here’s the deal: being outraged by child abuse, violence, or oppression is right. Using that outrage as cover to smear 1.9 billion people, most of whom don’t share the literalist, extremist views you're obsessed with, is textbook bigotry.

You say “an extremely large proportion” believe those things. Based on what? Internet comment sections? Your own echo chamber? Because actual data from Pew and others shows a far more nuanced picture—one you have zero interest in confronting, because nuance doesn’t fit your narrative.

This isn’t about defending religion. I reject all of it. I’m a determinist, an atheist, and I believe no ideology—secular or religious—should be beyond critique. But what you’re doing isn’t critique. It’s a clumsy attempt to turn justified anger into a license for collective hatred.

You think calling me a fool is some kind of zinger? It’s just projection. Because only a fool thinks they can win an argument with fear, distortion, and a caps-lock key.

[attofishpi]

But unlike you, I can tell the difference between criticizing ideas and dehumanizing entire populations. You take one disturbing statement from one individual and use it as fuel to smear over a billion people—many of whom also reject that interpretation, fight against it, or have fled from regimes enforcing it.

One individual? Are you talking about godelian with his outright belief that the Quran is the word of Allah, or are you talking about Mohammed himself?

That’s not evidence. That’s bigotry dressed up as outrage.

When an extremely large proportion of a billion Muslims believe in what I quoted is the word of Allah, and that gives them the right to kill non believers and rape little children, I am outraged. I am also outraged at your idiocy to consider my concerns about this evil ideology as me being a "bigot".

U R A FOOL.

This isn’t about defending religion. I reject all of it. I’m a determinist, an atheist, and I believe no ideology—secular or religious—should be beyond critique. But what you’re doing isn’t critique. It’s a clumsy attempt to turn justified anger into a license for collective hatred.

When they (Muslims) use their collective vote in support of their ideology and undermine the democracy our grandfathers fought for...well, well done scum. You are not worthy of their sacrifice.

[BigMike]

One individual? Are you talking about godelian with his outright belief that the Quran is the word of Allah, or are you talking about Mohammed himself?

When an extremely large proportion of a billion Muslims believe in what I quoted is the word of Allah, and that gives them the right to kill non believers and rape little children, I am outraged. I am also outraged at your idiocy to consider my concerns about this evil ideology as me being a "bigot".

U R A FOOL.

This isn’t about defending religion. I reject all of it. I’m a determinist, an atheist, and I believe no ideology—secular or religious—should be beyond critique. But what you’re doing isn’t critique. It’s a clumsy attempt to turn justified anger into a license for collective hatred.

When they (Muslims) use their collective vote in support of their ideology and undermine the democracy our grandfathers fought for...well, well done scum. You are not worthy of their sacrifice.

Ah, so now we’ve arrived at the final stage: calling people “scum” for not joining your crusade against an entire religion. You’re not even hiding it anymore.

Let’s be clear: democracy isn’t some heirloom you get to clutch while demanding that others be silenced or excluded from it. The moment you start ranting about how certain people shouldn’t be allowed to vote based on their religion, you’ve stopped defending democracy—you’ve started undermining it.

You talk about our grandfathers’ sacrifice? They fought against fascism, totalitarianism, and dehumanizing ideologies. What you’re spewing here has far more in common with the forces they died to defeat than with the values they fought to protect.

You don’t honor their memory. You insult it.

[attofishpi]

This isn’t about defending religion. I reject all of it. I’m a determinist, an atheist, and I believe no ideology—secular or religious—should be beyond critique. But what you’re doing isn’t critique. It’s a clumsy attempt to turn justified anger into a license for collective hatred.

When they (Muslims) use their collective vote in support of their ideology and undermine the democracy our grandfathers fought for...well, well done scum. You are not worthy of their sacrifice.

Ah, so now we’ve arrived at the final stage: calling people “scum” for not joining your crusade against an entire religion. You’re not even hiding it anymore.

Let’s be clear: democracy isn’t some heirloom you get to clutch while demanding that others be silenced or excluded from it. The moment you start ranting about how certain people shouldn’t be allowed to vote based on their religion, you’ve stopped defending democracy—you’ve started undermining it.

You talk about our grandfathers’ sacrifice? They fought against fascism, totalitarianism, and dehumanizing ideologies. What you’re spewing here has far more in common with the forces they died to defeat than with the values they fought to protect.

You don’t honor their memory. You insult it.

The irony, when you know GOD exists and a sage introduces himself to you (Nov 2005) and tells you that we reincarnate within families/cultures we deserve (karmically) - and that I FOUGHT in past wars...

That red sentence above is precisely people from an ideological belief system that you are allowing into our country in droves.

Please, do tell me of all the Islamic countries that have freedoms and democracy for their people.

How do these stats add up for you, the Danish actually bother to record the origin of people that per capita are committing violent crimes (*they arn't cowered by the likes of you calling people "racist")


Violent Crime in Denmark by nation of Origin
https://www.androcies.com/ForumImages/DenmarkStats.jpg

[BigMike]

When they (Muslims) use their collective vote in support of their ideology and undermine the democracy our grandfathers fought for...well, well done scum. You are not worthy of their sacrifice.

Ah, so now we’ve arrived at the final stage: calling people “scum” for not joining your crusade against an entire religion. You’re not even hiding it anymore.

Let’s be clear: democracy isn’t some heirloom you get to clutch while demanding that others be silenced or excluded from it. The moment you start ranting about how certain people shouldn’t be allowed to vote based on their religion, you’ve stopped defending democracy—you’ve started undermining it.

You talk about our grandfathers’ sacrifice? They fought against fascism, totalitarianism, and dehumanizing ideologies. What you’re spewing here has far more in common with the forces they died to defeat than with the values they fought to protect.

You don’t honor their memory. You insult it.

The irony, when you know GOD exists and a sage introduces himself to you (Nov 2005) and tells you that we reincarnate within families/cultures we deserve (karmically) - and that I FOUGHT in past wars...

That red sentence above is precisely people from an ideological belief system that you are allowing into our country in droves.

Please, do tell me of all the Islamic countries that have freedoms and democracy for their people.

How do these stats add up for you, the Danish actually bother to record the origin of people that per capita are committing violent crimes (*they arn't cowered by the likes of you calling people "racist")


Violent Crime in Denmark by nation of Origin
https://www.androcies.com/ForumImages/DenmarkStats.jpg

At this point, it’s not even a debate—it’s a cry for help.

You’re talking about visions, reincarnation, and being told by a “sage” that you fought in past wars, while using that as a justification to spread hate against entire groups of people in the present. That’s not insight. That’s a full-blown break from reality.

You’ve gone from angry generalizations to hallucinated justification. You're not defending democracy. You’re ranting about karmic destinies and past lives while spewing bile at strangers online.

You need to step away from this conversation—not to regroup your argument, but to seek professional psychiatric help. Seriously. This isn't normal. And the fact that you're so confident in this spiraling delusion only makes it more urgent.

[attofishpi]

Ah, so now we’ve arrived at the final stage: calling people “scum” for not joining your crusade against an entire religion. You’re not even hiding it anymore.

Let’s be clear: democracy isn’t some heirloom you get to clutch while demanding that others be silenced or excluded from it. The moment you start ranting about how certain people shouldn’t be allowed to vote based on their religion, you’ve stopped defending democracy—you’ve started undermining it.

You talk about our grandfathers’ sacrifice? They fought against fascism, totalitarianism, and dehumanizing ideologies. What you’re spewing here has far more in common with the forces they died to defeat than with the values they fought to protect.

You don’t honor their memory. You insult it.

The irony, when you know GOD exists and a sage introduces himself to you (Nov 2005) and tells you that we reincarnate within families/cultures we deserve (karmically) - and that I FOUGHT in past wars...

That red sentence above is precisely people from an ideological belief system that you are allowing into our country in droves.

Please, do tell me of all the Islamic countries that have freedoms and democracy for their people.

How do these stats add up for you, the Danish actually bother to record the origin of people that per capita are committing violent crimes (*they arn't cowered by the likes of you calling people "racist")


Violent Crime in Denmark by nation of Origin
https://www.androcies.com/ForumImages/DenmarkStats.jpg

At this point, it’s not even a debate—it’s a cry for help.

You’re talking about visions, reincarnation, and being told by a “sage” that you fought in past wars, while using that as a justification to spread hate against entire groups of people in the present. That’s not insight. That’s a full-blown break from reality.

You’ve gone from angry generalizations to hallucinated justification. You're not defending democracy. You’re ranting about karmic destinies and past lives while spewing bile at strangers online.

You need to step away from this conversation—not to regroup your argument, but to seek professional psychiatric help. Seriously. This isn't normal. And the fact that you're so confident in this spiraling delusion only makes it more urgent.

Of course, concentrate on all the stuff an atheist could never understand, but ignore the important facts.

AGAIN:

Please, do tell me of all the Islamic countries that have freedoms and democracy for their people.

How do these stats add up for you, the Danish actually bother to record the origin of people that per capita are committing violent crimes (*they arn't cowered by the likes of you calling people "racist")


Violent Crime in Denmark by nation of Origin
https://www.androcies.com/ForumImages/DenmarkStats.jpg

[accelafine]

I think the BigMike/AI hybrid needs to brush up on his reading comprehension skills. The only person who brought up muslims is him, which had nothing to do with this thread. He's probably never even met a muslim. There are almost none in the US (ooh, a whole 1 percent). Some parts of England have a muslim population of more than 30 percent.
This is typical of wokies though. Ever the hypocrites. Never defending those who actually need defending-- i.e. children (unless it suits their political agenda). Even his comment where he feigned horror at the abandoned border-crossing children was tainted with a 'but'-- proving how insincere he is. 'Oh, that's terrible, BUT what about their poor parents, those hypoctheticals who must have had NO CHOICE but to send their children over the border into the hands of paedophiles/sadists/child-killers'. Then he promptly changed the subject to one about muslims and how 'vulnerable and oppressed' they are, in need of the tenderest care from people like him (who never sees them and has probably never met one).
Of course he can't help any of this. It was all determined at the Big Bang.