Re: Is homosexuality a sin
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:18 am
The sole aim of marriage is to produce children. This point is defeated. Hence it is a sin but not a serious sin since others are not affected in this case.
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The sole aim of marriage is to produce children. This point is defeated. Hence it is a sin but not a serious sin since others are not affected in this case.
If you think the sole aim of marriage is to produce children then you are more of an idiot than I originally had you pegged.dattaswami wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:18 amThe sole aim of marriage is to produce children. This point is defeated. Hence it is a sin but not a serious sin since others are not affected in this case.
Illegal sex is a sin..attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:59 am
btw. You do realise that children can be produced outside of marriage don't you?
Apart from your seeming ignorance of the laws in the coutries of the people you are writing to here, you don't seem to realize that consenting adult unmarried sex is legal in your own country.dattaswami wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:42 amIllegal sex is a sin..attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:59 am
btw. You do realise that children can be produced outside of marriage don't you?
The children shall be born through a legal marriage so that the children get the association of both the parents and parents can mold the character of the child.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:03 am
Apart from your seeming ignorance of the laws in the coutries of the people you are writing to here, you don't seem to realize that consenting adult unmarried sex is legal in your own country.
I get that you want that. But it's legal to have sex as an adult even when single.dattaswami wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:23 amThe children shall be born through a legal marriage so that the children get the association of both the parents and parents can mold the character of the child.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:03 am
Apart from your seeming ignorance of the laws in the coutries of the people you are writing to here, you don't seem to realize that consenting adult unmarried sex is legal in your own country.
And then let's go in another direction: what is the role of a parent?dattaswami wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:23 amThe children shall be born through a legal marriage so that the children get the association of both the parents and parents can mold the character of the child.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:03 am
Apart from your seeming ignorance of the laws in the coutries of the people you are writing to here, you don't seem to realize that consenting adult unmarried sex is legal in your own country.
Then if that is true, which it isn't, it's illegal to intentionally make babies already knowing they may sin, babies who are forced into a world by sinners, who are unconsenting, but have been forced to also live in this illegal world where it's illegal to have sex and illegal to make babies to come and live in this illegal world full of sinners.
Your question is very important since children are the future generation and anything enters the brain of a child easily, especially when preached by their parents due to the strong confidence present in the hearts of children towards their parents. When a soul is born in this world after thoroughly washed in the hell, the child born here contains all mentalities (Samskaraas) in minute quantities only as seeds. These mentalities are both good and bad sinceIwannaplato wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:29 am
And then let's go in another direction: what is the role of a parent?
When you produce children out of legal marriage; then with association of good parents the child will motivated to do good deeds and due to this society will be benefited.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:31 am [
This is the sickness and the insane madness that is the human mind of belief.
Fortunately, the mind is a myth, it's just some imagined story, no one thought of, spoke of, wrote, or read.
There's just what's happening, that no thing, not a thing makes happen, nor can make unhappen.
What an absolute pile of balderdash. Children born from legal marriage can and do become gay. Which is a sin according to your belief. It's almost embarrassing but not entirely shocking that intelligent human beings can make-up such balderdash and believe it is real.dattaswami wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:27 am
When you produce children out of legal marriage; then with association of good parents the child will motivated to do good deeds and due to this society will be benefited.
I don't think you understood the question.dattaswami wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:25 amYour question is very important since children are the future generation and anything enters the brain of a child easily, especially when preached by their parents due to the strong confidence present in the hearts of children towards their parents. When a soul is born in this world after thoroughly washed in the hell, the child born here contains all mentalities (Samskaraas) in minute quantities only as seeds. These mentalities are both good and bad sinceIwannaplato wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:29 am
And then let's go in another direction: what is the role of a parent?
human being is a mixture of good and bad mentalities (Anishtamishtam mishramcha – Gita). Good mentalities are angels and bad mentalities are demons. If good and bad mentalities are approximately in equal quantities, the born child belongs to the race of human beings.
If good is more than bad, the child belongs to the race of angels. If bad prevails over good, the child belongs to the race of demons. Thus, in humanity itself, you have both angels and demons. Angels do not commit sins, even if commit, realize immediately. Devils always commit sins and never realize due
to ego and not due to lack of intelligence. Human beings are very complicated in the analysis balancing both good and bad and neither we can put them in angels nor in demons. Animals and birds also commit sins but have no intellectual capacity to realize the sin.
Demons differ from animals in not realizing the sin even though the intellectual capacity exists in them. Hence, punishments are given to demons, but not to animals and birds. The state of a child resembles more to a bird or animal in the beginning stage due to absence of matured intellectual capacity to discriminate good and bad. Slowly, the child grows and the direction of the child may result in one of these three lines from that common junction. The three lines are related to angels, humans and demons.
If the born child belongs to the race of angels by having major good mentalities, even very light atmosphere is sufficient to make it a perfect angel in
the rest of life. Similar is the case of a demon-child. The human-child is also similar because it can become angel or demon depending on even light good or bad atmosphere. Samskara is important, but, the atmosphere is also equally important or even more important. If the atmosphere is very strong, the weak samskara does not have strength to overcome the atmosphere. The reverse of this statement cannot exist because the samskara in a child after returning from the upper worlds is always weak.
The conclusion is that the atmosphere in this world is going to decide the entire fate of the soul present in the child. Hence, this world having a place for such atmosphere has full freedom to lead the soul in any direction. Therefore, this world is called as 'Karma Loka' or the place of free efforts deciding the entire fate of the soul. This is the reason why Swami Vivekananda told that you are the master of your destiny.
This means that nothing is predetermined in this world and everything depends upon the self-effort and the external atmosphere. Shankara says that the atmosphere alone is the deciding factor, neglecting even the samskara, which is very weak at the time of birth, continuing in the same level throughout childhood. Shankara gives top most place for the atmosphere as the sole factor to decide the fate of soul neglecting even the samskara, which can be grown in the congenial strong atmosphere. Shankara says that if you are in the association of contemporary human incarnation and
its devotees, you are sure to get the total grace of God (Satsangatve…). The Sat-Sanga means the association with 'Sat' or absolute reality existing in a specific human form like Shankara.
Marriage is not natural. It is not present in the natural world and is a cultural phenomenon designed by man. It is not necessary for reproduction.dattaswami wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:18 amThe sole aim of marriage is to produce children. This point is defeated. Hence it is a sin but not a serious sin since others are not affected in this case.