Passion

[Harbal]

Do people who are passionate about preventing further global warming also say that people who are indifferent to global warning are nowhere near as irritating as they themselves are? Or, do they find these indifferent people far more irritating than passionate people are?

I don't know what people who are passionate about global warming say, but I can't imagine their saying that those who are indifferent to it are less irritating than themselves. I guess they find indifferent people maddening and frustrating more than irritating.

Do you know any one who is not fake in some way?

I know people who don't seem to be fake, but you can never be absolutely sure. I don't think there are many people who don't try to present a false impression of themself in some respect, and to some extent. What they are being misleading about could range from trivial to very significant.

[Age]

But this thread is about passion, which is a subject I feel very strongly about indeed,

It could be said or argued that when one feels very strongly about some thing, then they are also very passionate about that thing.

And, to others, those who feel very strongly indeed about some things are just irritating.

[Harbal]

But necessity is not the mother of invention. Something else is.

I feel sure that necessity has often been a significant motivator behind innovation, even when it hasn't been the prime driver of it. What is the "Something else" that you consider to be the mother of invention?

[Age]

Do people who are passionate about preventing further global warming also say that people who are indifferent to global warning are nowhere near as irritating as they themselves are? Or, do they find these indifferent people far more irritating than passionate people are?

I don't know what people who are passionate about global warming say, but I can't imagine their saying that those who are indifferent to it are less irritating than themselves. I guess they find indifferent people maddening and frustrating more than irritating.

Why guess what they may find when you do not even know what they say?

Also, if you do not know what they say, then why jump past irritating and guess they would find them maddening and frustrating?

Do you know any one who is not fake in some way?

I know people who don't seem to be fake, but you can never be absolutely sure.

But if someone was not fake in any way whatsoever at all, then this would imply that you could be absolutely sure about them.

And, vice-versa, if you can never be absolutely sure about sure about someone, then this implies that they are in fact being fake, in some way.

I don't think there are many people who don't try to present a false impression of themself in some respect, and to some extent. What they are being misleading about could range from trivial to very significant.

[Age]

But necessity is not the mother of invention. Something else is.

I feel sure that necessity has often been a significant motivator behind innovation, even when it hasn't been the prime driver of it. What is the "Something else" that you consider to be the mother of invention?

Laziness.

And, because the environment that one was born and/or evolving into provides absolutely every thing necessary, which one needs. So, there is nothing new that is needed, and therefore there is no necessity.

Wanting, instead of necessity, I would say is more of a motivator behind innovation, than necessity is. See, every innovation was not needed, nor necessary, but they were obviously wanted. Like, for example, just about every innovation created, and if not just about every one of them, then all of those innovations.

[Harbal]

But this thread is about passion, which is a subject I feel very strongly about indeed,

It could be said or argued that when one feels very strongly about some thing, then they are also very passionate about that thing.

It could, indeed, but if it were said in relation to my quoted statement then whoever said it would have made an error of judgement.

And, to others, those who feel very strongly indeed about some things are just irritating.

Well I created this thread as a representative of those others.

[Age]

But this thread is about passion, which is a subject I feel very strongly about indeed,

It could be said or argued that when one feels very strongly about some thing, then they are also very passionate about that thing.

It could, indeed, but if it were said in relation to my quoted statement then whoever said it would have made an error of judgement.

Well since no one has said it in relation to your quoted statement, then there is no reason to assume that there will be, an error of judgment.

And, to others, those who feel very strongly indeed about some things are just irritating.

Well I created this thread as a representative of those others.

Is that 'those others' who find people who feel very strongly indeed about things like passion are irritating, for example?

[Dontaskme]

Instead indifference cannot be modulated. Indifference coincides with not being.

That doesn't make sense.

Indifference does not coincide with not being. Simply because there is no such state as not being.

[Dontaskme]

But the Universe did need human beings, or some other Truly intelligent species, to be born, for a particular reason.

Err, no, the universe needs human beings like an ocean needs water. So no, there is no need for human beings.

Just as the universe had no need for dinosaurs to exist only to later on extinct.

The universe hasn't got a brain. Nor a mind.

[Harbal]

Why guess what they may find when you do not even know what they say?

Because you asked me a question to which I didn't know the answer, but I didn't like to offer you nothing at all, so I offered you a guess. I'm sorry. In future when I don't know the answer to a question I will just say I don't know.

Also, if you do not know what they say, then why jump past irritating and guess they would find them maddening and frustrating?

Again, for the same reason as above.

But if someone was not fake in any way whatsoever at all, then this would imply that you could be absolutely sure about them.

Not necessarily, it might imply that they are a very convincing fake.

And, vice-versa, if you can never be absolutely sure about sure about someone, then this implies that they are in fact being fake, in some way.

But implications are not proof of the presence of the things they imply.

[Iwannaplato]

Just to be clear, VT, I hate PC as much as you do.

Somebody needs to tell that Immanuel Can what a bastard he is, I hate the fact that he doesn't seem to know.

Getting old does not suit me. Some people readily accept getting old, some people even seem to embrace it, I hate it.

Don't you just hate bands that take themselves too seriously.

I absolutely hate this sort of thing and watching the video made me feel quite angry.

I hate it when people don't finish their sentences.

But perhaps some of these were intended ironically. I can't imagine how that would be the case in most of them, but then there's the lovely....

All you're interested in is spoiling it for everyone else. You should leave the philosophy to those of us with a passion and talent for it.

[Harbal]

Well since no one has said it in relation to your quoted statement, then there is no reason to assume that there will be, an error of judgment.

Splendid. That's one less thing we need concern ourselves with then.

Is that 'those others' who find people who feel very strongly indeed about things like passion are irritating, for example?

Yes, I have taken it upon myself to speak on behalf of those who find passionate people irritating.

[bobmax]

Instead indifference cannot be modulated. Indifference coincides with not being.

That doesn't make sense.

Indifference does not coincide with not being. Simply because there is no such state as not being.

Isn't "not being" the state you so ardently desire?

Passion gives you a chance to be.

Indifference makes you not be.

Passion can take you to heaven as well as hell.
Which are in any case being.

But passion can also make you shut yourself off from the world.
In this way the passion is extinguished replaced by indifference.
This is "not being".

[Harbal]

Just to be clear, VT, I hate PC as much as you do.

Somebody needs to tell that Immanuel Can what a bastard he is, I hate the fact that he doesn't seem to know.

Getting old does not suit me. Some people readily accept getting old, some people even seem to embrace it, I hate it.

Don't you just hate bands that take themselves too seriously.

I absolutely hate this sort of thing and watching the video made me feel quite angry.

I hate it when people don't finish their sentences.

But perhaps some of these were intended ironically. I can't imagine how that would be the case in most of them, but then there's the lovely....

All you're interested in is spoiling it for everyone else. You should leave the philosophy to those of us with a passion and talent for it.

Some very impressive quotes there, and a few even look like something I might have said.

[Iwannaplato]

Some very impressive quotes there, and a few even look like something I might have said.

Yes, and while I will try to appear indifferent about the author, given my audience, my search gave me a better sense of someone's sense of humor. Kudos to that person, whomever he or she may be.
I like that last quote the best, of course. But I'm American...well, also English, dual and all. Though I find myself somewhere more woke (woker, filled with wokeness...?) than either of my native countries. Oh, sorry. Of course, nationalities are not relevant.
Carry on.