The Clue to Infinity is I do not know.

[Walker]

Don't be mean, keep it clean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjC8-37HKCo

[Dontaskme]

Don't be mean, keep it clean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjC8-37HKCo

Dear physchopath, I do not watch or read any of the links you post, so why don't you just continue talking to the wall, because I simply do not care about anything you have to show me, I either agree with people or I don't...and you just happen to be one of those people I do not agree with, so try as you must to rattle me, I know that gives you pleasure, but you will be wasting your time, let me assure you, you are meaningless..

[Walker]

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[Walker]

I looked around.

From what I gather, my reference to science, the origin of the universe, the moment of conception, and the moment of change, referenced as The Big Bang, also references something that causes you suffering.

Coincidence. It’s also a coincidence that in other threads, which involve other topics, I find “petard,” a useful metaphor, borrowed from Shakespeare.

Also, the reference is germane to Ukraine/Russia.

Content is determined by, and relates to, the sub-forum and the thread title. It’s natural for folks to attach personal memories to another’s philosophical observations that are made relevant to not only current events, but the way things are, that is if they be observations of the gist.

What’s inappropriate is for you to take personally a discussion about the origin of the universe, which includes The Big Bang Theory, which includes the notion that all matter and energy was once contained in an infinitesimally tiny point, which changed in an instant.

And then, viciously attack based on your misconception. But, I'm forgiving and compassionate, and cut some measure of slack for ignorance.

This instant of change applies to all change, including acceptance.

[Walker]

[Dontaskme]

What if I told you. The clue to infinity is I do not know.

[Dontaskme]

I looked around.

From what I gather, my reference to science, the origin of the universe, the moment of conception, and the moment of change, referenced as The Big Bang, also references something that causes you suffering.

Coincidence. It’s also a coincidence that in other threads, which involve other topics, I find “petard,” a useful metaphor, borrowed from Shakespeare.

Also, the reference is germane to Ukraine/Russia.

Content is determined by, and relates to, the sub-forum and the thread title. It’s natural for folks to attach personal memories to another’s philosophical observations that are made relevant to not only current events, but the way things are, that is if they be observations of the gist.

What’s inappropriate is for you to take personally a discussion about the origin of the universe, which includes The Big Bang Theory, which includes the notion that all matter and energy was once contained in an infinitesimally tiny point, which changed in an instant.

And then, viciously attack based on your misconception. But, I'm forgiving and compassionate, and cut some measure of slack for ignorance.

This instant of change applies to all change, including acceptance.

You are such a drama queen ..get over yourself you bad bad actor.

You have no idea what you are talking about and neither do I

Pretend all you like, you are nothing but a deaf dumb and blind moron.

And just so you know, every time you poke me, I’m going to poke you back harder.

[Sculptor]

It's not my imagination, it's yours. It is purely logical.

One thing it is not is logical. It's neither empirical nor logical.
If you think it is logical show your working.

A thing cannot both be and not be.

Not relevant

There cannot both be existence and not be existence.

Same thing, still not relevant.

If there is existence, it is, and it is not possible that existence not be. If you imagine there could be a, "time," (or any other case) where there is no existence, logically, there could be no such time (or case), because there would be nothing, so there cannot be a time or any actual case where there is nothing. You can imagine nothing, but there cannot be nothing.

The point about the universe having a beginning is that time also begins too.

But, if you want to believe nothing is possible (with all the mysticism that opens the door to) it doesn't matter to me.

Nothing is nothing. Neither possible or not possible. It is a null state.

Not trying to convince you, only explaining why I do not believe there cannot be nothing. If nothing else, I don't have to bother myself with all the cosmological and creation theories of origins.

This is just you imposing a set of beliefs here.

That's just silly. Of course it's what I believe. Why would I describe what I don't believe. You make it sound as though anything one is convinced is true is for that reason out of court. You are only saying what you believe aren't you. You aren't lying.

What I believe is based on the best evidence available to me and the best reason I am capable of. One or both may be limited (just as yours may be), but what I believe is not just because I like it or want it to be true, it's because I refuse to believe anything for which there is no direct evidence to examine (like origins) or results in a contradiction (like there being a beginning of that which does not exist, i.e. has no beginning).

I was not claiming infinity or otherwise. I made no hypothesis. I just laid down the facts.
You cannot peddle belief as logic, and so I did no such thing.
There is evidence for the Big Bang; like that or not.
When you say you refuse to believe a thing for which there is no direct evidence is a lie since you have already asserted a claim about the universe being infinite - despite such a claim being logically impossible to ever verify.

[Walker]

You are such a drama queen ..get over yourself you bad bad actor.

You have no idea what you are talking about and neither do I

Pretend all you like, you are nothing but a deaf dumb and blind moron.

And just so you know, every time you poke me, I’m going to poke you back harder.

You should check this link.
It’s a work of art.
The great Joe Sample on keyboards. So distinctive.

Harry's House/Centerpiece
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS0wzDM ... YF&index=8


btw: I know exactly what I'm talkin' about.

[Age]

So, the answer to the question, 'What are the colors of the leaves on 'that' tree?', to "dontaskme" is "consciousness, one without a second".

Dontaskme is a label known to consciousness.

What does the colour of a leaf look like to knowing consciousness, the answer is, the colours look like consciousness. The label red or green leaf is known to consciousness. What is consciousness, it's a red or green leaf.

So yes, consciousness is the only knowing there is, it's one knowing without a second. I don't know how many times I have to repeat this to you Age. I do not know because I is known, and that which is known knows nothing.

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So, to 'you', because 'consciousness' is known, 'consciousness' knows nothing, but this is EXTREMELY CONTRADICTORY because the one known as "dontaskme" says that 'consciousness' is the only knowing there is, correct?

By the way, you are absolutely FREE to repeat the EXACT SAME 'thing' as MANY times as you like. But, if what you are repeating is False, Wrong, or Incorrect, then just REPEATING 'it' will NOT make 'it' True, Right, nor Correct. Is this UNDERSTOOD by 'you'?

[Age]

WHEN 'you' LEARN how to USE the 'right' words, THEN 'you' WILL SAY the 'right' 'things' ONLY. Until then 'you' WILL just keep SAYING what 'you' have been SAYING so far. Which is; SOME true, right, and/or correct 'things' and SOME false, wrong, and/or incorrect 'things'. Like above here.

Yeah, I don't believe that either.

We KNOW that you ONLY BELIEVE what 'you' ALREADY BELIEVE is true. And, this is a PRIME EXAMPLE of WHY the adult human beings, in the days when this was being written, took SO LONG to come to FIND, SEE, and KNOW, what thee ACTUAL Truth of 'things' REALLY IS.

'They' ACTUALLY BELIEVED that what the 'thoughts' ACTUALLY BELIEVED was true, was ACTUALLY TRUE, which is I KNOW IS EXTREMELY FUNNY and HILARIOUS to 'Us', but this is EXACTLY how these adult human beings WERE LIKE, back in those days.

'They' were SO CLOSED that 'they', literally, could NOT SEE thee ACTUAL Truth, which was LAID 'bare' BEFORE 'them' ALL.

[Age]

"IDEA's" do NOT 'look like' ANY 'thing'. This is because they are OBVIOUSLY INVISIBLE to human eyes. Just like the OTHER INVISIBLE 'things' are INVISIBLE to the human eye.

'Invisible things' are not known images, nor do 'invisible things' exist.

LOL REALLY?

So, to the concept known as "dontaskme" 'it' ACTUALLY BELIEVES that there are absolutely NO 'invisible things'.

Talk about being COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY BLINDED by one's OWN BELIEFS. 'you', "dontaskme", as SHOWING and PROVING just how CLOSED 'you' REALLY ARE now.

Only an 'image seen' as a physical object can be said to exist.

WOW, 'you' are SHOWING and PROVING just how STUPID 'you' REALLY ARE here.

Can you REALLY NOT SEE past your OWN BELIEFS?

An 'idea' is inseparable from it's image, else an 'idea' can never be known to exist. An image is only known in it's conception as and through the known label that is placed upon what is never there prior to the label superimposed upon it.

This thread topic is about KNOWLEDGE...and what is knowledge but an image known, seen as a physical object in consciousness, not outside of consciousness. A 'tree' for example is an image seen inseparable from the seeing. It's an image of the imageless, known conceptually by consciousness itself all one without a second, there is no divide between the knower and the known there.

But 'consciousness' is a known concept, and it is 'YOU', "dontaskme", who TELLS 'us' that a known concept can NOT know ANY thing.

REALLY how MANY TIMES are 'you' going to CONTRADICT "your" 'self' here in this forum?

So implying that 'invisible things' exist... is absurd...

Can you REALLY NOT think of absolutely ANY 'thing' that is 'invisible' to the human eyes, but which still exists?

but then most of what you say is absurd Age...

Okay.

That works PERFECTLY in regards to what is coming to fruition here.

if you want to be understood you need express yourself so that others can understand what you are saying to them, because most of the time your messages are just one big jumbled up mess that make absolutely no sense whatsoever.

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Could this be a PRIME EXAMPLE of 'projection' at its BEST?

[Age]

Don't be mean, keep it clean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjC8-37HKCo

Dear physchopath, I do not watch or read any of the links you post, so why don't you just continue talking to the wall, because I simply do not care about anything you have to show me, I either agree with people or I don't...and you just happen to be one of those people I do not agree with, so try as you must to rattle me, I know that gives you pleasure, but you will be wasting your time, let me assure you, you are meaningless..

Are you saying here that it would not matter what "walker" said you would just DISAGREE with it?

[Age]

What if I told you. The clue to infinity is I do not know.

Are you even aware that the term; "The clue to infinity is ...", is NONSENSICAL to some of 'us'.

Are you ABLE to explain what the words, "The clue to infinity", even MEANS or REFERS TO, EXACTLY?

'Infinity' is a 'thing', which is just defined by certain words.

The Universe is 'infinite' in 'size' (and 'eternal' in 'time', as some might say).

[Age]

One thing it is not is logical. It's neither empirical nor logical.
If you think it is logical show your working.

Not relevant

Same thing, still not relevant.

The point about the universe having a beginning is that time also begins too.

Nothing is nothing. Neither possible or not possible. It is a null state.


This is just you imposing a set of beliefs here.

That's just silly. Of course it's what I believe. Why would I describe what I don't believe. You make it sound as though anything one is convinced is true is for that reason out of court. You are only saying what you believe aren't you. You aren't lying.

What I believe is based on the best evidence available to me and the best reason I am capable of. One or both may be limited (just as yours may be), but what I believe is not just because I like it or want it to be true, it's because I refuse to believe anything for which there is no direct evidence to examine (like origins) or results in a contradiction (like there being a beginning of that which does not exist, i.e. has no beginning).

I was not claiming infinity or otherwise. I made no hypothesis. I just laid down the facts.
You cannot peddle belief as logic, and so I did no such thing.
There is evidence for the Big Bang; like that or not.

There is obviously what is called 'evidence' for some 'bang', but the so-called 'big bang' is NOT ANY indication AT ALL that this was 'the beginning' of Everything.

When you say you refuse to believe a thing for which there is no direct evidence is a lie since you have already asserted a claim about the universe being infinite - despite such a claim being logically impossible to ever verify.

But it is NOT 'logically impossible' to 'verify' that the Universe is infinite, or eternal. In fact, the EXACT OPPOSITE is True, Right, AND Correct in that it is ACTUALLY 'logically possible' to 'verify' that the Universe is ACTUALLY infinite AND eternal.