Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 2:38 pm
Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 2:07 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:18 pm
Strictly speaking, it's not a "measurement" at all. Just as ∏ (
pi) isn't a "measurement," neither is eternity. "Measuring" is always finite. ∏ and eternity are infinite and unspecifiable. Moreover, eternity is not "time," which is also finite. It's better described as a "relation beyond time."
But let that be. The question is still needs to be asked, obviously.
The idea there is a timeless eternity existing as an (if) uncertainty, that is not a measurement, is by definition, still a measurement here in time.
No, actually, it isn't. "Measurements" are, by defnition,
quantifications. Eternity has indefinite duration. It's not a "quantity."
You may change the meaning to something else by definition, and that would still be the same one love action dreaming difference where there is none.
Eternity is now. This is it, there is nothing beyond what can only be known now.
While it is often associated with infinite duration, classical philosophy defines eternity as what is timeless or exists outside time.
Unlike time, which has a "before" and an "after," eternity is simultaneously whole.
If you ICan claim one can exist outside of time, in an eternal realm, even though you have no certainty about one existing eternally, and that it's just an iffy idea, then maybe your iffy idea could well be true, who knows until they have tasted the eternal life?
Have you experienced eternal life IC? ..If so thanks for leaving it, and kindly dropping by here today, into what can only be known as space-time duality. And what do you imagine it would be like existing outside of space-time? what does life in the beyond time feel like, would you need a body that is also timeless, can you imagine life without a body? can bodies live forever? so many questions eh.. and supposing your iffy idea of eternal life was true, how do you think you would be able to traverse between living a finite life here in space time, to then finding yourself living infinitely in eternity?
To know you have traversed between the two finite and infinite ideas, you would have to have the ability to actually split yourself into two or into many parts, or quantities of the whole, and that is what your mind is apparently trying to do here, and yet even as that is apparently appearing to happen, nothing will have changed for the whole, because that which is wholly whole, can never not be whole.
Poor argument, Mr Can't. Think deeper, dig deeper into the rabbit hole, and maybe you'll earn your badge of Can that I'm sure you will wear with honour and pride.
