Sex and the Religious-Left

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Wizard22
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Re: Sex and the Religious-Left

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For Liberals, having a child can only ever be accidental or a surprise, never intentional, never a product of foresight.

Because the Liberal is only ever interested in the orgasm, the ejaculation, the dopamine-hit, like a drug-addict.

Liberals cannot "see beyond" the next hit, which is also why the support and encourage the drug-addicts of the West.
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Re: Sex and the Religious-Left

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Wizard22 wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 10:59 pm Okay, your Liberal mind is missing the point...
Yeah, it's scary if you just have to deal with the ideas. It's so important to put people in boxes instantly. And to keep those boxes utterly distinct and simple. Two boxes, everyone's the same in each of the two boxes.
Let's go further.
You haven't gone anywhere yet.
Liberalism is based off of 'Liberation' from goals, objectives, ideals, except hedonism and pleasure-seeking.
Nah, that's false.

So if your goal now, is family and reproduction, then liberals Divert that goal back to hedonism.
I don't think you're noticing the hedonism in conservatives very well.
This is why you diverted the point, the reproducing family, back to masturbation, as-if that negated what was done by the Conservative family.
yeah, don't deal with the points directly, make up a position for me.
The difference is that the Conservative has a family to protect, while the Liberal does not, at least, not without contradicting himself and being a hypocrite.
I have a family to protect, so I guess I'm not a Liberal. Or, maybe, you can only think in binary terms.

But yeah, don't actually respond to anything I wrote. Just react, associate and make up stuff, and categorize people.

I suppose it's easy for you to keep track and ward off learning.
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Re: Sex and the Religious-Left

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Wizard22 wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 10:59 pm
Iwannaplato wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 10:53 pmWhy wouldn't conservatives, then, not want perverted people to have their genes fade away. Also those who fall for what you'd call propaganda.

And how many babies to you have to have. A man could masturbate a lot - when his wife is sick, pregnant, not in the mood, when he's on a business trip and still have ten babies or more.

And women, forgetabout it.

Further you're hand were sure as hell not made for typing. You could be out procreating.
Okay, your Liberal mind is missing the point...

Let's go further.

Liberalism is based off of 'Liberation' from goals, objectives, ideals, except hedonism and pleasure-seeking. So if your goal now, is family and reproduction, then liberals Divert that goal back to hedonism. This is why you diverted the point, the reproducing family, back to masturbation, as-if that negated what was done by the Conservative family.

The difference is that the Conservative has a family to protect, while the Liberal does not, at least, not without contradicting himself and being a hypocrite.
A person can have goals and standards and still believe in liberty as something generally beneficial to a person's natural development. Don't you think?
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Re: Sex and the Religious-Left

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Wizard22 wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 11:06 pm For Liberals, having a child can only ever be accidental or a surprise, never intentional, never a product of foresight.
SEriously, you're not connected to reality. You think Liberals don't plan to have children. What planet are you on?
Because the Liberal is only ever interested in the orgasm, the ejaculation, the dopamine-hit, like a drug-addict.
Wow. Disconnected.
Liberals cannot "see beyond" the next hit, which is also why the support and encourage the drug-addicts of the West.
It's amazing they managed to overpower the Conservatives who are not addicts, free to see beyond, and planning things.

YOu'd think in a struggle the people who plan, aren't addicts and can see beyond would have an advantage.

It must be embarrassing to find yourself constantly claiming victimhood to such pathetic damaged people.

One wonders if you will ever face the cogntive dissonance you have to be avoiding heartily to maintain all this idiocy.
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Re: Sex and the Religious-Left

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Iwannaplato wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 11:07 pmI have a family to protect, so I guess I'm not a Liberal. Or, maybe, you can only think in binary terms.

But yeah, don't actually respond to anything I wrote. Just react, associate and make up stuff, and categorize people.

I suppose it's easy for you to keep track and ward off learning.
That's not much of a counter-argument.

How is a Liberal's "family" anything other than a "happy accident"? To imply that you intentionally had children, implies that you know and recognize, that the function of sex is to beget a family. Thereby, you would contradict your Liberal ideology (that sex is for pleasure first and foremost).
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Re: Sex and the Religious-Left

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Wizard22 wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 11:15 pm
Iwannaplato wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 11:07 pmI have a family to protect, so I guess I'm not a Liberal. Or, maybe, you can only think in binary terms.

But yeah, don't actually respond to anything I wrote. Just react, associate and make up stuff, and categorize people.

I suppose it's easy for you to keep track and ward off learning.
That's not much of a counter-argument.

How is a Liberal's "family" anything other than a "happy accident"? To imply that you intentionally had children, implies that you know and recognize, that the function of sex is to beget a family. Thereby, you would contradict your Liberal ideology (that sex is for pleasure first and foremost).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g

Note to IWP, just to be clear, my link above doesn't have anything to do with you.
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Re: Sex and the Religious-Left

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"Seriously, you're not connected to reality. You think Liberals don't plan to have children. What planet are you on?"

Don't engage him, bro. Just let him make a few posts and it'll be over soon.
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Re: Sex and the Religious-Left

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Gary Childress wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 11:23 pmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g

Note to IWP, just to be clear, my link above doesn't have anything to do with you.
Cute, Gary... good counter-argument. :)
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Re: Sex and the Religious-Left

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promethean75 wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 11:27 pm"Seriously, you're not connected to reality. You think Liberals don't plan to have children. What planet are you on?"
When Liberals "plan to have children", then they renounce their Liberalism, for a moment, don't they?

They practice being Conservative, like the other half of humanity.

"A young man who is not a Liberal, has no heart.
An old man who is not a Conservative, has no mind."
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Re: Sex and the Religious-Left

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Also think about the life of a Liberal versus a Conservative.

The Liberal life is completely selfish...it's about your pleasure, your dopamine-hit, your masturbation, you you you you you.

But, should you have a child, and feel an ounce of Responsibility (denoting Morality), then it's no longer about you you you, isn't it???

You have something, somebody, other than yourself to concern yourself about...to protect, to care for, to love.


Liberalism to Conservatism, is a step from Selfishness to Selflessness.
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Re: Sex and the Religious-Left

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"The Liberal life is completely selfish...it's about your pleasure, your dopamine-hit"

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... 234979503/
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Re: Sex and the Religious-Left

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promethean75 wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 12:37 am "The Liberal life is completely selfish...it's about your pleasure, your dopamine-hit"

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... 234979503/
Hunter Biden would like to have a word with you...
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Re: Sex and the Religious-Left

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Gary Childress wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 10:29 pm So if I decide to jerk off, will I need to impregnate a female in order to make it OK? Does anyone here really want that to happen or would you prefer I jerk off and not produce offspring? Let's see a show of hands. First, think of yourself calling me "dad" and then vote.
When dealing with men who reason at the level of a rebellious child, one has few options. Ridicule. Contempt. Pity?
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Re: Sex and the Religious-Left

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Wizard: Liberalism is based off of 'Liberation' from goals, objectives, ideals, except hedonism and pleasure-seeking.
Iwannaplato: Nah, that's false.
He is onto something but his broad statements will function better if narrowed somewhat.

Change “liberalism” to the hyper-liberalism or perverted liberalism of our present (this alone requires a conversation) and his assertion has sense in it.
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Re: Sex and the Religious-Left

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Iwannaplato wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 10:53 pm Why wouldn't conservatives, then, not want perverted people to have their genes fade away. Also those who fall for what you'd call propaganda.
Christian charity.
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