Philosophy

[Age]

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Just LOOK AT what society and 'world' 'you' are living in now, when this is being written, and REMEMBER that 'it' was created through DISCIPLINE, RIDICULE, and PUNISHMENT.

Which, VERY SADLY, some of 'you' MORE ABUSED and DISTORTED ones STILL BELIEVE IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY and NEEDED.

If DISCIPLINE, RIDICULE, and/or PUNISHMENT ACTUALLY WORKED, then there would NOT be a prison ANYWHERE, ANY MORE, and there would NOT be ANY one DOING ANY Wrong EITHER ANY MORE. So, the PROOF of what DOES NOT WORK is 'in the pudding', as some might say, or in other words, in the way of 'life' that 'you' are ALL living IN, right now.

In fact some of 'you' have been SO SEVERELY DISCIPLINED and PUNISHED, as children, that 'you' have grown up in 'age' but NOT in 'maturity' to STILL ACTUALLY BELIEVE that ALL children ARE MENACES and if they are NOT DISCIPLINED and PUNISHED WILL END UP DOING WRONG.

The 'world' and 'way of life' that 'you' are living in "wizard22" when this is being written IS 'chaos and destruction' and on a further down hill spiral, or of a Peaceful and Loving 'world' and 'way of life'?

if it is the former, then that is exactly what 'you' get from PUNISHING and DISCIPLINING Truly INNOCENT children, and thee Truly INTELLIGENT ones on the planet, I will add.

But, if it is the latter, then WHY would 'you' even WANT to CHANGE how 'things' ARE?

I will, AGAIN, suggest that 'you' LOOK AT what 'you', "yourself" ARE ACTUALLY 'thinking' AND DOING, BEFORE 'you' even BEGIN to go and START to LOOK AT how "others" 'think' and AT what they DO.

Age, your responses are really just a series of error, after error, after error, riddled with logical fallacies, strawman arguments, red herrings, projection, etc etc etc. Also your chaotic grammar and failure to address your interlocutor, signals a great deal of cognitive dissonance. I won't go into unwinding the small knots inside your (ir)rationalization. But I will address a few of the major malfunctions.

What we have here, ONCE AGAIN, are just ALLEGATIONS and ACCUSATIONS, with absolutely NOTHING AT ALL to back up and support these CLAIMS.

FIRSTLY, writing in CAPITAL letters EVERY second or THIRD word, IS very DISTRACTING. You SHOULD reconsider TYPING like THIS. TRY to type NORMALLY. IT'S too distracting FOR the READER and MAKES you look SILLY.[/quote]

But the way I write is NOT distracting AT ALL, well NOT for 'us' readers anyway. It is ONLY distracting for SOME readers, and WHY that is, for THOSE readers ONLY, might be SOME thing that they could LOOK INTO and WORK OUT WHY they GET SO EASILY and SO SIMPLY DISTRACTED.

This might be some CONDITION they have, which could be VERY EASILY and VERY SIMPLY just RECTIFIED.

I have ALREADY EXPLAINED, and also on numerous occasions, WHY I write the way I do. And if ANY one else REALLY wants to LEARN and KNOW WHY also, then they WILL just ask 'WHY?'

Also, and by the way, to 'us' it is those of 'you' who CAN and who get SO EASILY and SO SIMPLY DISTRACTED who LOOK REALLY SILLY.

Secondly, I'm not threatened by a grown man wearing a dress and pretending to be a woman.

Well you sure do appear to be.

But many people should be, because they are mentally ill and usually sexual predators.

LOL Okay.

So, to you, people SHOULD be THREATENED by those who have a mental illness.

And here is a PRIME EXAMPLE of WHY human beings SLOWED right down in the evolutionary ladder, and thus took SO LONG to REACH and ACHIEVE 'the GOAL'.

Do I want to kill a man "for wearing a dress"? No,

But 'you' ALSO do NOT want them ALIVE and LIVING around 'you', correct?

but I do want to kill men who are rapists and plotting to rape children.

Okay.

WHY ONLY children?

You are using a false-equivocation to present innocence and criminal as the same thing. This is obviously false.

What IS MORE FALSE is YOUR False and Wrong PRESUMPTION here.

And it's common sense for people to differentiate between the two. It's a matter of who people are willing to trust their children with.

And you have ALREADY PROVEN, IRREFUTABLY, to be one, with a very serious mental condition, and to be one who it would be MUCH BETTER if NO child was trusted to be with.

Which is a very SAD indictment of the society that existed when this was being written, in that you were given supervision rights of young children.

Lastly, young children learn to lie early in life. Lying is integral in the human specie.

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Here is a PRIME EXAMPLE of how these people would 'TRY TO' "justify" their OWN OBVIOUSLY Wrong behaviours.

There is no innate "truth-telling", because humans and every other organic specie, use different forms of deception to gain direct & indirect advantages in life.

LOL Just ANOTHER ATTEMPT of 'TRYING TO' "justify" your OWN Wrong behaviour. Which is NOT working, I will add.

There is no "complete honesty" or "perfect truth".

OF COURSE NOT, with 'you'. 'you' have ALREADY SHOWN and PROVEN HOW 'you' have ALREADY "proven", to 'you', ONLY that 'you' could NEVER always tell the truth and be honest.

This is most obvious in the realm of Philosophy, where, truth is relatively unknown--and philosophers attempt to clear all premises and seek-out truth as an unknown conclusion.

The reason 'you', PEOPLE, are STILL SO LOST and SO CONFUSED is because of 'your' BELIEFS, like, for example, the one 'yoi' have and HOLD ONTO, which is; "It is our NATURE to be LYING and DECEIVING beings".

We (philosophers) do not begin such a journey with "the truth". But we hope to end with it, as a hard-won acquisition.

LOL with those BELIEFS of 'yours' 'you' will NEVER get to WHERE 'we' and have ALREADY REACHED and ARRIVED AT.

Truth is a grand construct, of verifiable beliefs, a lifetime of trial & error that is justified by the quality of those trials. People are drawn to such 'Truth' because it is convincing, persuasive, alluring, and "rings true". There is an innate Gravitas toward Truth. You know it when you hear it. I'll leave it at this, for now, because you seem to be struggling in your novel-length responses of Righteous Indignation. Young adults don't really have access to great truths, and especially not children and infants, who have yet to learn anything of the world.

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'you' are AT the EXACT OPPOSITE END along the spectrum of Truth.

See, the youngest ALREADY KNOW thee Truth, and this unconsciously KNOWN knowledge and Truth, although remains WITHIN 'you', human beings, ALWAYS just gets HIDDEN and LOST along the with 'your' Wrong teachings, which came fromm the ABUSIVE childhoods that 'you' have ALL had. 'your' words here "wizard22" are providing GREAT examples of those Wrong teachings.

Young children do have a lack of bias and 'innocence' that quickly dissipates though. Young children learn to lie reflexively, when they learn the difference between "good" or "bad" beahvior.

Children only LEARN to LIE because of the PUNISHED and RIDICULE that 'you', adult han beings, lay upon them, like, for example, from BELIEFS like 'yours', "wizard22", here regarding children NEED to PUNISHED because they WILL LIE and WILL do wrong.

If, for example, a child throws a ball and the ball then breaks a window, now when a child is asked, "Did you break the window?" and they reply with a, "Yes", and the child is then PUNISHED or RIDICULED for this, then that child LEARNS, VERY QUICKLY, to NOT tell the truth again and if asked again, to LIE.

So, what this MEANS, and I will make this VERY SIMPLE and EASY for 'you', "wizard22", IF and WHEN 'you', adults, STOP PUNISHING, RIDICULING, LYING, and thus STOP ABUSING children, then childrenn WILL STOP growing up and doing the EXACT SAME Wrong doings as 'you' are OBVIOUSLY continually doing, when this being written.

I'm beginning to doubt that you can discuss this matter at length, unemotionally. But I'll give you a few more chances.

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If only 'you' KNEW "walker22". If ONLY 'you' KNEW.

[Wizard22]

Age, since you cannot demonstrate adult behavior, I have nothing further to say to you.

[Wizard22]

THere is no difference between you are the Ayatollahs

You said that transexuality/transgenderism "does not harm". That is false. You essentially support genital and child mutilation, which are barbaric practices the same as, or worse than, fundamentalist Islam. So you're projecting here.

[Wizard22]

Biological women are capable of what were formerly held to be "manhood" virtues. Biological men are capable of what were formerly held to be womanhood virtues.

That's incorrect.

Men cannot give birth, despite liberal-leftists saying "gender is equal". And any mother trying to "fill in" for a father, does so very poorly. A woman is not capable of Masculinity; in the same way a man is not capable of (genuine) Femininity.

Your ideas of gender are too rigid and they are out of date. You may be able to persuade some people but you can't turn back the clock.

They aren't "my ideas of gender". They are objective reality, and you sew the seeds of your own destruction by pretending otherwise.

Right- wing dictators have morality policemen who catch people for infringements of reissued 'traditional' (or ersatz traditional) beliefs.

And left-wing dictators convince young boys to castrate themselves, pubescent girls to slice their breasts off, teaching children about homosexuality, etc.

Divorce and single parenthood may be happier and healthier for parents and their children than the alternatives.

They're not.

Did you learn any history when you were at school?

I learned history outside of school, without left-wing dictators leaning over my shoulder.

Why was transexuality, homosexuality, gender mutilation, and child sacrifice (abortion today) so prevalent in the Roman Imperium, before it descended into the Dark Ages?

Tell me some history.

[Age]

Age, since you cannot demonstrate adult behavior, I have nothing further to say to you.

The "maturity" here speaks for itself.

This one comes here CLAIMS 'things', and completely and utterly FAILS to back up and support those CLAIMS when QUESTIONED and CHALLENGED, and is also TO AFRAID and TO SCARED to just be Truly OPEN and Honest now, because 'it' KNOWS that if 'it did, then 'it' would CONTRADICT 'itself'.

And, resorting to ATTEMPTING to HUMILIATE and RIDICULE, the "other", like 'you' just did here "wizard22" is a PRIME example of argumentum ad hominen.

Which is EXACTLY what a LOT of adult human beings would do, that is; when they had absolutely NOTHING.

[Wizard22]

Somebody WHO writes LIKE this, CANNOT and SHOULD not BE taken SERIOUSLY.

[Age]

Biological women are capable of what were formerly held to be "manhood" virtues. Biological men are capable of what were formerly held to be womanhood virtues.

That's incorrect.

Men cannot give birth, despite liberal-leftists saying "gender is equal".

Is giving birth REALLY in 'your' list of 'virtues', "wizard22"?

And any mother trying to "fill in" for a father, does so very poorly. A woman is not capable of Masculinity; in the same way a man is not capable of (genuine) Femininity.

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Talk about one who is Truly DEAF and BLIND here.

Now, "wizard22" INFORM 'us' of what BOTH 'Masculinity' and 'Femininity' IS, or REFERS TO, EXACTLY.

And, BECAUSE 'you' can NOT do this in an ACCURATE and Correct WAY. This PROVES just how Truly UNKNOWING 'you' ARE here.

Your ideas of gender are too rigid and they are out of date. You may be able to persuade some people but you can't turn back the clock.

They aren't "my ideas of gender". They are objective reality, and you sew the seeds of your own destruction by pretending otherwise.

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So, "wizard22" ACTUALLY BELIEVES that 'it' HAS and KNOWS 'objective reality' ITSELF. Which is even MORE FUNNIER the MORE one thinks about this.

Right- wing dictators have morality policemen who catch people for infringements of reissued 'traditional' (or ersatz traditional) beliefs.

And left-wing dictators convince young boys to castrate themselves, pubescent girls to slice their breasts off, teaching children about homosexuality, etc.

Will 'you' NAME these so-called 'left-wing dictators'?

If no, then WHY NOT?

But if yes, then GREAT.

Divorce and single parenthood may be happier and healthier for parents and their children than the alternatives.

They're not.

AND, 'you', "walker22", have LIVED in ALL circumstances and scenarios, and SO KNOW what thee ACTUAL Truth IS, as well as OBJECTIVE REALITY, right?

So, in "wizards22" OWN tiny, LITTLE 'world', even if one of the two parents is BASHING or RAPING the other parent and/or the child/ren, then that is the MOST 'happier' AND 'healthiest' environment for ALL of them to live in. BECAUSE, to "wizard22", getting divorced from THE ABUSER and living in a single parent family IS NOT a 'happier' and 'healthier' place to be, and live in.

The ABSURDITY and STUPIDITY, from the outset, of YOUR BELIEFS here "wizard22" just get MORE STUPID and MORE ABSURD the MORE 'you' 'TRY TO' DEFEND and FIGHT for YOUR BELIEFS.

Did you learn any history when you were at school?

I learned history outside of school, without left-wing dictators leaning over my shoulder.

Why was transexuality, homosexuality, gender mutilation, and child sacrifice (abortion today) so prevalent in the Roman Imperium, before it descended into the Dark Ages?

Tell me some history.

Human beings lived a MUCH MORE happier, healthier, and FREE life BEFORE ANY so-called 'modern culture' was FORCED upon them.

[Age]

Somebody WHO writes LIKE this, CANNOT and SHOULD not BE taken SERIOUSLY.

I WAS thinking that YOUR views "walker22" could NOT get MORE SHALLOW and MORE NARROW, and even MORE STUPID by the way, BUT, 'you' have just PROVED 'me' Wrong here.

Here is an absolute PRIME example of just HOW BELIEFS INFLICT a person to becoming ABSOLUTE CLOSED.

That is; I am NOT going to LISTEN to the words you SAY, or write, because I do NOT 'like' the way you SPEAK, or to the type of letters you type in.

Which becomes even MORE STUPIDER each time I think about it.

This mis/behavior also EXPLAINS EXACTLY HOW and WHY children were NOT listened to, and WHY and HOW they were continually PUNISHED, BACK in those OLDEN and VERY DARK ages when this was being written.

[Wizard22]

*Yawwwwn*

[Sculptor]

THere is no difference between you are the Ayatollahs

You said that transexuality/transgenderism "does not harm". That is false. You essentially support genital and child mutilation, which are barbaric practices the same as, or worse than, fundamentalist Islam. So you're projecting here.

You are a rabid idiot.

[Wizard22]

You are a rabid idiot.

I'm not the one who is "okay" with a young boy being castrated due to leftist religious extremism, and saying "it doesn't harm anybody".

That's on you.

[Age]

You are a rabid idiot.

I'm not the one who is "okay" with a young boy being castrated due to leftist religious extremism, and saying "it doesn't harm anybody".

That's on you.

'you' are NOT even capable of REVEALING who 'it' IS who 'you' CLAIM IS the DICTATOR of this so-called "leftist religious extremism".

'you' make all these CLAIMS "wizard22" but 'you' have had absolutely NOTHING AT ALL that could even come close to backing up and supporting your OWN made up CLAIMS and IMAGININGS here.

[Sculptor]

You are a rabid idiot.

I'm not the one who is "okay" with a young boy being castrated due to leftist religious extremism, and saying "it doesn't harm anybody".

That's on you.

Please cite!

[Belinda]

Biological women are capable of what were formerly held to be "manhood" virtues. Biological men are capable of what were formerly held to be womanhood virtues.

That's incorrect.

Men cannot give birth, despite liberal-leftists saying "gender is equal". And any mother trying to "fill in" for a father, does so very poorly. A woman is not capable of Masculinity; in the same way a man is not capable of (genuine) Femininity.

Your ideas of gender are too rigid and they are out of date. You may be able to persuade some people but you can't turn back the clock.

They aren't "my ideas of gender". They are objective reality, and you sew the seeds of your own destruction by pretending otherwise.

Right- wing dictators have morality policemen who catch people for infringements of reissued 'traditional' (or ersatz traditional) beliefs.

And left-wing dictators convince young boys to castrate themselves, pubescent girls to slice their breasts off, teaching children about homosexuality, etc.

Divorce and single parenthood may be happier and healthier for parents and their children than the alternatives.

They're not.

Did you learn any history when you were at school?

I learned history outside of school, without left-wing dictators leaning over my shoulder.

Why was transexuality, homosexuality, gender mutilation, and child sacrifice (abortion today) so prevalent in the Roman Imperium, before it descended into the Dark Ages?

Tell me some history.

The history you need is social history as taught by teachers who know the rules for sourcing what they teach. There are rules for historical source material which is a fact you may not know about.

[Wizard22]

Please cite!

You can't remember what you wrote yesterday?