And the irony is the only reason our exchange is now unfolding is because out of the blue you revived this thread yourself. Why? Are there things about Maia that stir you?
Even here, however, I have my own suspicions regarding why you did that.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2024 6:47 am
Well, if you're studying me, I've been inactive for a while. Came back and went through my notifications including that one from Prom. But suspect conveniently away.
Me studying you? No, it seems more reasonable to suggest instead it's you studying me. After all, I don't follow you around from thread to thread to thread in order to expose to the world what/who you, uh, really are? And how little you -- meaning me -- seem to grasp regarding "serious philosophy"? That's your thing with me here, in my view. In fact, I read very, very little of what you post here unless it does pertain to me, to something I posted. Why? It's not because I don't respect your intelligence and your commitment to philosophy as you understand it. It's because by and large, in my own rooted existentially in dasein personal opinion, you are much, much, much more inclined to go up into the clouds here with those like VA.
And, in regard to meaning, morality and metaphysics, my own interest here is always in exploring how those theoretical exchanges bear any resemblance -- relevance -- to actual human interactions. In particular at the existential juncture of identity, value judgments, conflicitng goods and political economy. Given particular sets of circumstances.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2024 7:20 am And what you explain as your interest, what draws you to the interaction, may well be it.
No, it is it. On the other hand, don't give up on me, okay? Maybe someday I will finally begin to grasp that you actually do know me better here than I know myself.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2024 6:47 amMy response to Prom accepted his assumption about all the boys reacting Maia, including your responses. He attributed a motivation. I accepted that. But pointed out that you weren't admitting it.
Admitting to what? Yeah, sure, if I wasn't old enough to be her father, and if I wasn't confined to this recliner, I would have no problem at all in contacting her and perhaps even pursuing a relationship. She's very intelligent, very articulate, very quick-witted, very keen on exploring the world around her without any intention of rejecting others who don't think exactly as she does. And, yeah, she's very attractive. The "looks" part.
So, given reality as it actually is for me now with Maia, I'm back to this:
Actually, what stirs -- fascinates, intrigues -- me most about Maia is the fact that this is the first time I have ever exchanged posts with someone who is not only blind but was born blind. How on Earth does someone who comes into the world born blind come to understand the world around her...a world she has never seen? How might that [existentially] give her a frame of mind I can only perhaps come closer to understanding.
Then the part where she seems to accept my argument regarding dasein in the is/ought world but is in possession of an Intrinsic Self that enables her to transcend my own fractured and fragmented assessment of conflicting goods.
Finally, the part where she is committed to Paganism and then makes a 7-year commitment to celibacy. And she brought this up in our exchange, not me. Now, admittedly, I don't know all that can possibly be known about Pagans. But I have always connected the dots here between them [and Wiccans] and Dionysus, myself.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2024 7:20 am Context, context. Here in this post to you, I point out that I didn't care what your motivation was, I was prodding at the quasi alliance you guys have.
Right. My quasi-alliance with Prom. That it doesn't actually exist is, what, moot?
And the thing about Prom75, is that you never really know for sure when he either is or is not just employing a tongue-in-cheek assessment in order to cleverly expose all the more the meatminds here.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2024 7:20 amMy comment to prometheus and much earlier in the thread about him to you, is actually to point out that the quasi alliance you have with each other at times doesn't really fit your positions. So, I probe that.
To the best of my knowledge, I don't have a quasi-alliance with anyone here. Well, whatever that actually means, of course. And I am only interested in exploring with Maia the things we have discussed above and elsewhere. All the rest is your own agenda, not mine.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2024 7:20 am When I pointed out that Prometheus was focusing on the person not the subject, and sexually, in fact, you defended and complimented him, even though you dislike when people make you the issue rather than the topic of your posts. IOW it was hypocritical.
Link me to that please.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2024 7:20 am Prom has on occasion backed you up when you have faced criticism. I have no back room conspiracy fantasies, but for some reason you are hypocritical, both of you, when it comes to the other. So, I call it a quasi-alliance.
Call it whatever you wish. And, sure, go ahead, actually believe that's what it is. We can just chalk it up to yet one more "failure to communicate"
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2024 7:20 am You have issues with people making an issue of you, rather than the issues you raise. But when P makes and issue of Maia and in pretty sexist ways, if potentially in part tongue in cheek, this doesn't bother you.
You don't know what bothers me. In fact, "I" am no less fractured and fragmented myself in regard to that. And, as i noted above, with Prom, you never really know for sure the extent to which he is just bantering or being facetious, comedic, clever.
Or, rather, from time to time, I don't.
And so much more to the point is the distinction I make between those things we believe about others and those things we can actually demonstrate that all other rational men and women are obligated to believe in turn. Also, the part where philosophers may or may not be able to pin down how we ought to react to others.
You bump into someone who was born blind. Okay, what either is or is not appropriate to say to them? Or about them to others? Hell, even Maia herself points out how frustrating this can be for her. Sighted people on pins and needles.
That's him, not me. So take it up with him, okay?
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2024 7:20 amI have. But the point was to point out your hypocrisy. And you did not respond this way when I first pointed it out. You defended him.
Again, a link please.
