Roe Vs Wade? God the greatest Abortionist.

[Lacewing]

mebbe when folks like yourself *ahem* stop relyin' on The State for everything

What are you talking about? What do you think I'm relying on that you don't?

[uwot]

You don't talk like anybody who knows God.

Neither do you. You are one of the worst representatives I've ever seen.

Mr Can knows his god very well. People create gods in their own image, so when Mr Can tells us his god is a self righteous twerp, he' is absolutely correct, because being created in Mr Can's image, what else could god be?

[henry quirk]

mebbe when folks like yourself *ahem* stop relyin' on The State for everything

What are you talking about? What do you think I'm relying on that you don't?

[Lacewing]

You don't talk like anybody who knows God.

Neither do you. You are one of the worst representatives I've ever seen.

Mr Can knows his god very well. People create gods in their own image, so when Mr Can tells us his god is a self righteous twerp, he' is absolutely correct, because being created in Mr Can's image, what else could god be?

True. Some people become so intoxicated with and dependent on their own creations that they forget who 'the creator' of that actually is. Those who are most needy imagine their creations favor them and position them in unique righteousness.

[Lacewing]

mebbe when folks like yourself *ahem* stop relyin' on The State for everything

What are you talking about? What do you think I'm relying on that you don't?

Ah, you can't answer the question. Just another stupid claim you make without being able to explain it.

I wonder, Henry, what decision you would make, had you been born a female, and found out you were unexpectedly pregnant at a time in your life when you weren't wanting to take that on. Would you commit your body to 9 months of pregnancy and all that goes with it?

It is difficult to know until you've been in that position. All of you men who are full of opinions about what women should do, have no idea what it's like to be faced with such a circumstance.

[Immanuel Can]

I wonder, Henry, what decision you would make, had you been born a female, and found out you were unexpectedly pregnant at a time in your life when you weren't wanting to take that on. Would you commit your body to 9 months of pregnancy and all that goes with it?

There are many, many "females" who would.

They're called "mothers." Look around, and you'll see a few.

All of you men who are full of opinions about what women should do, have no idea what it's like to be faced with such a circumstance.

That's as silly a line as a person can write. It's not about "what it's like" to "be faced with such a circumstance": it's about what is objectively right regardless of how any person feels -- male or female -- about the circumstance.

In fact, the courage it takes to take responsibility for the choices one has made is a sign of mental maturity; refusal to accept the consequence of one's decisions is mere infantilism.

Grown-up women are mothers. They are both morally and personally responsible for what they do, and they own their consequences.

[Lacewing]

the courage it takes to take responsibility for the choices one has made is a sign of mental maturity; refusal to accept the consequence of one's decisions is mere infantilism.

Says the childish and cowardly self-righteous liar who takes no responsibility for his delusional and indulgent wank-fests that he claims represent God, rather than himself.

[henry quirk]

lace,

Ah, you can't answer the question.

sure I can, but then I'd have to go into the topic of beer virus which is a big non-no, yeah?


I wonder, Henry, what decision you would make, had you been born a female, and found out you were unexpectedly pregnant at a time in your life when you weren't wanting to take that on. Would you commit your body to 9 months of pregnancy and all that goes with it?

unexpectedly pregnant: oh my, where did this come from?

First, I wouldn't be preggers unless I chose it. Not once in my 59 years have I impregnated a woman (and I haven't lived a celibate life). As a woman: I would have done no differently.

Second: in the unlikely event that I, Henrietta, woulda got knocked up two things coulda happened...

If pregnant as the atheistic, nihilistic, garbage-person I was: I probably woulda killed my baby.

If pregnant as the principled, natural rights, guy I am now: I'd curse my stupidity, make plans for adoptin' Jr. out, and get to work keepin' Jr alive and healthy.


It is difficult to know until you've been in that position.

Have you been in that position?

[Lacewing]

Lacewing: Ah, you can't answer the question.
sure I can, but then I'd have to go into the topic of beer virus which is a big non-no, yeah?

All you have to do is answer why you claimed that I 'rely on the The State for everything'.

unexpectedly pregnant: oh my, where did this come from?

First, I wouldn't be preggers unless I chose it. Not once in my 59 years have I impregnated a woman (and I haven't lived a celibate life). As a woman: I would have done no differently.

Henrietta's body might be different, as well as her circumstances.

Second: in the unlikely event that I, Henrietta, woulda got knocked up two things coulda happened...

If pregnant as the atheistic, nihilistic, garbage- person I was: I probably woulda killed my baby.

If pregnant as the principled, natural rights, person I am now: I'd curse my stupidity, make plans for adoptin' Jr. out, and get to work keepin' Jr alive and healthy.

So, how does your consistently delusional and asshole behavior fit into this daydream?

It is difficult to know until you've been in that position.
Have you been in that position?

No, I haven't. I don't know what I would do, but there are times in my life that I think I would have chosen to abort an unwanted pregnancy (despite all my efforts to avoid it). It is not my responsibility to birth a bean of life. You guys need to get a grip.

What responsibility do men have for causing pregnancies?

Do you think there are reasons it's right to kill adult people? On whose terms is that decided?

[uwot]

Some people become so intoxicated with and dependent on their own creations that they forget who 'the creator' of that actually is. Those who are most needy imagine their creations favor them and position them in unique righteousness.

'Twas ever thus.

Once more, as Xenophanes said:

But mortals suppose gods are born,
Wear their own clothes and have a voice and body.
The Ethiopians say that their gods are flat-nosed and black,
While Thracians say that theirs have blue eyes and red hair.
Yet if cattle or horses or lions had hands and could draw,
And could sculpt like men, then the horses would draw their gods
Like horses, and cattle like cattle; and each would shape
Bodies of gods in the likeness, each of their own kind.

[Immanuel Can]

It is difficult to know until you've been in that position.
Have you been in that position?

No, I haven't.

So if "being in the position" is requisite of knowing it...

...you don't.

[uwot]

...in the irony void between Mr Can's ears:

the courage it takes to take responsibility for the choices one has made is a sign of mental maturity; refusal to accept the consequence of one's decisions is mere infantilism.

Mr Can believes Jesus died for Mr Can's sins.

[uwot]

...in the irony void between Mr Can's ears:

It is difficult to know until you've been in that position.
Have you been in that position?

No, I haven't.

So if "being in the position" is requisite of knowing it...

...you don't.

Tell us about the times you were pregnant Mr Can.

[henry quirk]

All you have to do is answer why you claimed that I 'rely on the The State for everything'.

Yeah, I did phrase it that way, didn't I.

Probably woulda been better if I'd just left that off.

So: my apologies, lace. You're obviously a self-reliant sort who'd never turn to The State for solutions to problems created by The State.


Henrietta's body might be different, as well as her circumstances.

Does circumstance determine response, or does the person in the circumstance determine response?

As for a different body: sure. But your scenario involved me as a woman, not a woman like me. In the first, I can propose how I would, and would have, handled pregnancy; in the second, I can't.


So, how does your consistently delusional and asshole behavior fit into this daydream?



Bein' principled doesn't make one nice.


It is not my responsibility to birth a bean of life.

Mebbe, though, it is your responsibility not to kill one.


What responsibility do men have for causing pregnancies?

As much as the ladies.


Do you think there are reasons it's right to kill adult people?

Self-defense, defense of others, defense of property.


On whose terms is that decided?

God's. Or if that doesn't work for you: natural law/rights. And if that doesn't work for you: the universal intuition all men have that each is his own and others ought not take his life, liberty, or property. And if that doesn't work for you: then, I'm all out of ammo.

[attofishpi]

God told me...

That's the thing I don't believe.

You don't talk like anybody who knows God.

Precisely how does one that actually KNOWS God - via direct interaction with this entity, speak?