Roe Vs Wade? God the greatest Abortionist.

[henry quirk]

earlier in this thread you claimed or at least considered that this SOUL was not 'affixed' until a later stage than conception

citation, please

[Immanuel Can]

SO.

...is a woman a murderer when she takes the morning after pill in the circumstance where pregnancy would have developed?

To me, it's irrelevant.

Is it MURDER?

Very plausibly. Ask God.

But if you don't know the answer, then DON'T KILL ANYTHING.

[Lacewing]

a billion unwanted babies: a billion unwanted persons, a billion unwanted human beings

how unwanted are they? seems to me: lot's of folks want to adopt

Then why are there so many kids in foster care?

[henry quirk]

a billion unwanted babies: a billion unwanted persons, a billion unwanted human beings

how unwanted are they? seems to me: lot's of folks want to adopt

Then why are there so many kids in foster care?

go look at the hoops folks have to jump thru to adopt (unless you're rich...then you can just fly over to a third world where there are no hoops)

[attofishpi]

To me, it's irrelevant.

Is it MURDER?

Very plausibly. Ask God.

I told you the answer - that NO it was not murder, according to God.

Just to let you know, after years of tests eventually (and I will refer to God as IT) It, told me on a few occasions that 'You took"

Eventually when I asked IT whether I murdered, indeed whether I terminated a SOUL's existence - it stated NO, and eventually insisted that the SOUL had rebirth.

[attofishpi]

earlier in this thread you claimed or at least considered that this SOUL was not 'affixed' until a later stage than conception

citation, please

Dude - I would have to traverse through copious amount of pages - and I sure as shit aint gonna bother to write a script to search for it!

Why is the SOUL component relevant?

[henry quirk]

earlier in this thread you claimed or at least considered that this SOUL was not 'affixed' until a later stage than conception

citation, please

Why is the SOUL component relevant?

it isn't 'cept to me and other religious folk...it frames my reasoning as a deist, but -- as I say -- I know not everyone is a deist or believes in the soul

now please show me where I claimed or at least considered that this SOUL was not 'affixed' until a later stage than conception

[henry quirk]

Dude - I would have to traverse through copious amount of pages - and I sure as shit aint gonna bother to write a script to search for it!

then mebbe don't ascribe positions to me that aren't mine and expect me to defend 'em

I never claimed or at least considered that this SOUL was not 'affixed' until a later stage than conception

not in this thread, forum, or anywhere

[attofishpi]

earlier in this thread you claimed or at least considered that this SOUL was not 'affixed' until a later stage than conception

citation, please

Why is the SOUL component relevant?

it isn't 'cept to me and other religious folk...it frames my reasoning as a deist, but -- as I say -- I know not everyone is a ceust or believes in the soul

now please show me where I claimed or at least considered that this SOUL was not 'affixed' until a later stage than conception

Stop being a pedantic wanker - I just told you I am not (at 5am) going to bother traversing back through pages to find something that really has no relevance ultimately.

GET THIS.

The way I see it, atheists should be more concerned about the carriage of a child through to birth - since they don't believe in a SOUL - this is that 'matter' of early human form's only chance at EVER having a life.

PUT THAT IN THOUGHT PROCESS.

On the other hand. Christ popped along, got crucified - died - reincarnated with what I can only presume was a reinvigorated body at the least and pretty much said 'HEY EVERYONE - here I am - proving God controls everything concerning the SOUL AND MATTER- so ya if you get some drug fucked whore pregnant and she says she wants to abort - go ahead!!

[Sculptor]

Greek lit is full of such stories of babies being left on the hillsides to be exposed to the weather. In later urbanised environments babies were left in pots in the agora to a chance collection by childless couples, or slavers willing to raise the child.

Thanks for pointing this out.

Maybe pro-lifers would prefer that unwanted babies be left on hillsides after they're born. Or maybe there can be markets of babies in jugs for the countless unaborted, unwanted babies that need homes. That sounds like a great idea: force women to carry and birth babies to overwhelm our system and cause unnecessary and unimaginable suffering and live deaths. This is the horror that some people are too stupid to avoid.

It is a matter of deep irony that prolifers are the ones who shout most about freedom; shout out against the sort of "socialist" policies that could help unwanted children and "unwed mothers" whom that also castigate; and often pro gun.

[henry quirk]

I just told you I am not (at 5am) going to bother traversing back through pages to find something that really has no relevance ultimately.

yeah, I know...see up-thread


The way I see it, atheists should be more concerned about the carriage of a child through to birth - since they don't believe in a SOUL - this is that 'matter' of early human form's only chance at EVER having a life.

so, when the atheist aborts, how are they showin' concern about the carriage of a child through to birth?


On the other hand. Christ popped along, got crucified - died - reincarnated with what I can only presume was a reinvigorated body at the least and pretty much said 'HEY EVERYONE - here I am - proving God controls everything concerning the SOUL AND MATTER- so ya if you get some drug fucked whore pregnant and she says she wants to abort - go ahead!!

okay

I'm not Christian, by the way, so I won't be defendin' Christianity against whatever beef you got with it or Christians

[henry quirk]

It is a matter of deep irony that prolifers are the ones who shout most about freedom; shout out against the sort of "socialist" policies that could help unwanted children and "unwed mothers" whom that also castigate; and often pro gun.

Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all. We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain. F. Bastiat

[Lacewing]

Then why are there so many kids in foster care?

go look at the hoops folks have to jump thru to adopt

Oh, the HOOPS are the problem! Maybe we should hand out the babies on street-corners.

So, let's add a billion babies to that system! Good idea! And how will our system support all those additional people? We'll need more daycare and schools. Maybe we can replace churches with schools. Then of course, there's all the ADDITIONAL strain this will create on the currently overwhelmed and failing infrastructure -- to support a continually-increasing magnitude of human beings. It's going to be WAY more than the strain/cost of immigrants.

For all of you who support Henry's Billion Baby March, sign up your support at: completelystupid.com.

[Sculptor]

It is a matter of deep irony that prolifers are the ones who shout most about freedom; shout out against the sort of "socialist" policies that could help unwanted children and "unwed mothers" whom that also castigate; and often pro gun.

Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all. We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain. F. Bastiat

One lie after another. Where the fuck do you get your ideas from?
Do yourself a favourt and stop wanking over Carlson Tucker. You are just participating in your own oppression.
You are, as usual, without an argument.

[Sculptor]

I just told you I am not (at 5am) going to bother traversing back through pages to find something that really has no relevance ultimately.

yeah, I know...see up-thread


The way I see it, atheists should be more concerned about the carriage of a child through to birth - since they don't believe in a SOUL - this is that 'matter' of early human form's only chance at EVER having a life.

so, when the atheist aborts, how are they showin' concern about the carriage of a child through to birth?


On the other hand. Christ popped along, got crucified - died - reincarnated with what I can only presume was a reinvigorated body at the least and pretty much said 'HEY EVERYONE - here I am - proving God controls everything concerning the SOUL AND MATTER- so ya if you get some drug fucked whore pregnant and she says she wants to abort - go ahead!!

okay

I'm not Christian, by the way, so I won't be defendin' Christianity against whatever beef you got with it or Christians

Here we see the exact moment when Henry's mind finally left his brain.
I mean to say What the actual fuck is goin on here?