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Re: God.

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2025 9:01 am
by Fairy
Age wrote: Mon Sep 08, 2025 8:40 am

Contrary to 'popular belief', here, things do actually exist whether some one is believing it, or not.

So, obviously the actual Truth is things do exist whether entities that exist inter-subjectively believe they do or not.

I don’t believe you.

Re: God.

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2025 4:21 pm
by Age
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:49 am
Age wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:01 am
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 7:15 am God is Love
But, 'this one' also claims that God is everything, and thus hate as well.
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 7:15 am God is selfless, unconditional, real and true.
But, to 'this one' anyway, God is also selfish, conditional, not real, and not true.
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 7:15 am A Love that holds space for you to be the selfish fuck you are.
And, to even hold the so-called 'selfish fuck' that you are, and God is also.
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 7:15 am God is the platform for everything. The platform for everything is TRUTH
Again, if you would like some help in finding the Right words to use, here, so that you do not end up continually contradicting "your" own 'self', here, then 'I' am more than happy to provide 'you' some assistance.
Unconditional Love allows everything to be.
So, to "fairy" anyway, it allows children to be abused because to "fairy" 'this' is so-called 'unconditional love'.

Which probably helps in explaining why "fairy" regrets, absolutely, bring children into 'this world'. And, thus why "fairy" wishes that it was also never born into 'this world'.

'This one' actually believes that 'the abuse', which it had to suffer with in childhood was all of its parent's so-called 'unconditional love' for it.
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:49 am There’s nothing excluded from Gods love.
'This one' has certainly not yet grasped what the words, 'unconditional love', and, 'God's love', are actually meaning and referring to, exactly.
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:49 am I don’t know how many times I’ve mentioned this to you, but you choose not to listen, and the reason you don’t listen is because you have closed yourself off to others points of view. You are not open you are closed.

Start a thread if using the right words is important to you. You could call the thread HOW TO USE THE RIGHT WORDS TO AVOID CONTRADICTING YOURSELF.

Until you start that thread you’ll just continue to make an absolute ass out of yourself which you have successfully succeeded to do in every interaction you’ve ever had with others and is why most people just ignore you.

Your communication style is atrocious.
Okay.

But have you noticed your, human being, communication style over the last few thousand years or so, hitherto when this is being written?

Is what is happening and occurring 'now' in all of what you people call the 'war-torn' places caused from 'kind' communication style, or would it be better described as coming from, literally, an 'atrocious' communication style?

Re: God.

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2025 4:25 pm
by Age
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 9:01 am
Age wrote: Mon Sep 08, 2025 8:40 am

Contrary to 'popular belief', here, things do actually exist whether some one is believing it, or not.

So, obviously the actual Truth is things do exist whether entities that exist inter-subjectively believe they do or not.

I don’t believe you.
But, it does not matter at all what 'you' believe or disbelieve, here. 'This' is a 'philosophy forum' where what Truly matters is you people remain Truly open, and then discuss things in a Truly logically reasoned and peaceful way until, new/er knowledge comes-to-light.

Well to 'me', anyway. But, as always 'you' are always absolutely free to choose to do whatever 'you' like.

Re: God.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2025 5:36 am
by LuckyR
Age wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 7:54 am
LuckyR wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:33 am
Age wrote: Mon Sep 08, 2025 8:40 am

Contrary to 'popular belief', here, things do actually exist whether some one is believing it, or not.

So, obviously the actual Truth is things do exist whether entities that exist inter-subjectively believe they do or not.

But, 'this' can only be explained to, and be understood by, those entities that exist 'inter-subjectively' that already understand and know what the term and phrase' 'inter-subjectively' means and is referring to, exactly.
Inter subjective entities are those that exist as a shared belief between many individuals. Like gods.
Was your claim, and example, here, meant to 'clear things up', here?

If yes, then okay.

Now, 'I' asked 'you',
'Does some thing only exist if there is some one believing in 'it'?'

To which 'you' replied,

'It does for entities that exist inter-subjectively.'

But, 'now' you say and claim that, 'inter-subjective entities' are 'those', which exist in a 'shared belief between many individuals'.

So,

1. First off, things can exist whether there is some entity believing in 'it', or not.

2. 'Inter-subjectivity' does not matter if things exist, or not.

3. If things exist for 'inter-subjectively entities', then so what?

4. Why can there not be just a small number of so-called 'inter-subjective entities'?

5. And, a shared belief by a group of some or many people does not mean that what they believe actually does exist.
Just concentrate on number 5 and you'll get it.

Re: God.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2025 5:56 am
by Age
LuckyR wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 5:36 am
Age wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 7:54 am
LuckyR wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:33 am

Inter subjective entities are those that exist as a shared belief between many individuals. Like gods.
Was your claim, and example, here, meant to 'clear things up', here?

If yes, then okay.

Now, 'I' asked 'you',
'Does some thing only exist if there is some one believing in 'it'?'

To which 'you' replied,

'It does for entities that exist inter-subjectively.'

But, 'now' you say and claim that, 'inter-subjective entities' are 'those', which exist in a 'shared belief between many individuals'.

So,

1. First off, things can exist whether there is some entity believing in 'it', or not.

2. 'Inter-subjectivity' does not matter if things exist, or not.

3. If things exist for 'inter-subjectively entities', then so what?

4. Why can there not be just a small number of so-called 'inter-subjective entities'?

5. And, a shared belief by a group of some or many people does not mean that what they believe actually does exist.
Just concentrate on number 5 and you'll get it.
But if you had already concentrated, enough, then you would have already got it.

Re: God.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2025 7:12 am
by Fairy
“ Man is the most insane species. He worships an invisible God and destroys a visible Natue. Unaware that this Nature he’s destroying is this God he’s worshipping “

Signed the Goddess.

Re: God.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2025 9:23 am
by Age
Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 7:12 am “ Man is the most insane species. He worships an invisible God and destroys a visible Natue. Unaware that this Nature he’s destroying is this God he’s worshipping “

Signed the Goddess.
But, 'woman' also do 'this'.

you human beings are each born the most intelligent animal and/or being. you adult human beings, however, can be, and at times are, the most stupidest animal, and being.

Re: God.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2025 10:11 am
by Belinda
Age wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 4:21 pm
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:49 am
Age wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:01 am

But, 'this one' also claims that God is everything, and thus hate as well.


But, to 'this one' anyway, God is also selfish, conditional, not real, and not true.


And, to even hold the so-called 'selfish fuck' that you are, and God is also.


Again, if you would like some help in finding the Right words to use, here, so that you do not end up continually contradicting "your" own 'self', here, then 'I' am more than happy to provide 'you' some assistance.
Unconditional Love allows everything to be.
So, to "fairy" anyway, it allows children to be abused because to "fairy" 'this' is so-called 'unconditional love'.

Which probably helps in explaining why "fairy" regrets, absolutely, bring children into 'this world'. And, thus why "fairy" wishes that it was also never born into 'this world'.

'This one' actually believes that 'the abuse', which it had to suffer with in childhood was all of its parent's so-called 'unconditional love' for it.
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:49 am There’s nothing excluded from Gods love.
'This one' has certainly not yet grasped what the words, 'unconditional love', and, 'God's love', are actually meaning and referring to, exactly.
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:49 am I don’t know how many times I’ve mentioned this to you, but you choose not to listen, and the reason you don’t listen is because you have closed yourself off to others points of view. You are not open you are closed.

Start a thread if using the right words is important to you. You could call the thread HOW TO USE THE RIGHT WORDS TO AVOID CONTRADICTING YOURSELF.

Until you start that thread you’ll just continue to make an absolute ass out of yourself which you have successfully succeeded to do in every interaction you’ve ever had with others and is why most people just ignore you.

Your communication style is atrocious.
Okay.

But have you noticed your, human being, communication style over the last few thousand years or so, hitherto when this is being written?

Is what is happening and occurring 'now' in all of what you people call the 'war-torn' places caused from 'kind' communication style, or would it be better described as coming from, literally, an 'atrocious' communication style?
You both need tutoring in communication via use of English. There is hope for Age who thinks for himself whereas Fairy possibly is too submerged in cliches to be rescued.

Re: God.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2025 10:16 am
by Belinda
Age wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 5:56 am
LuckyR wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 5:36 am
Age wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 7:54 am

Was your claim, and example, here, meant to 'clear things up', here?

If yes, then okay.

Now, 'I' asked 'you',
'Does some thing only exist if there is some one believing in 'it'?'

To which 'you' replied,

'It does for entities that exist inter-subjectively.'

But, 'now' you say and claim that, 'inter-subjective entities' are 'those', which exist in a 'shared belief between many individuals'.

So,

1. First off, things can exist whether there is some entity believing in 'it', or not.

2. 'Inter-subjectivity' does not matter if things exist, or not.

3. If things exist for 'inter-subjectively entities', then so what?

4. Why can there not be just a small number of so-called 'inter-subjective entities'?

5. And, a shared belief by a group of some or many people does not mean that what they believe actually does exist.
Just concentrate on number 5 and you'll get it.
But if you had already concentrated, enough, then you would have already got it.
Good point, Age, (Number 5)but Lucky did not imply that.

Re: God.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2025 10:25 am
by Fairy
Belinda wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 10:11 am
Age wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 4:21 pm
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:49 am

Unconditional Love allows everything to be.
So, to "fairy" anyway, it allows children to be abused because to "fairy" 'this' is so-called 'unconditional love'.

Which probably helps in explaining why "fairy" regrets, absolutely, bring children into 'this world'. And, thus why "fairy" wishes that it was also never born into 'this world'.

'This one' actually believes that 'the abuse', which it had to suffer with in childhood was all of its parent's so-called 'unconditional love' for it.
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:49 am There’s nothing excluded from Gods love.
'This one' has certainly not yet grasped what the words, 'unconditional love', and, 'God's love', are actually meaning and referring to, exactly.
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:49 am I don’t know how many times I’ve mentioned this to you, but you choose not to listen, and the reason you don’t listen is because you have closed yourself off to others points of view. You are not open you are closed.

Start a thread if using the right words is important to you. You could call the thread HOW TO USE THE RIGHT WORDS TO AVOID CONTRADICTING YOURSELF.

Until you start that thread you’ll just continue to make an absolute ass out of yourself which you have successfully succeeded to do in every interaction you’ve ever had with others and is why most people just ignore you.

Your communication style is atrocious.
Okay.

But have you noticed your, human being, communication style over the last few thousand years or so, hitherto when this is being written?

Is what is happening and occurring 'now' in all of what you people call the 'war-torn' places caused from 'kind' communication style, or would it be better described as coming from, literally, an 'atrocious' communication style?
You both need tutoring in communication via use of English. There is hope for Age who thinks for himself whereas Fairy possibly is too submerged in cliches to be rescued.
And B it seems has it’s head so far up it’s arse that it’s hopelessly submerged in it’s own intellectual shite. A shite that imagines is shinier than other shites. Forgive yourself for you don’t know what you know.

What’s it like being the snobbiest snob on the forum B ?

Do share.

Re: God.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2025 10:34 am
by Age
Belinda wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 10:11 am
Age wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 4:21 pm
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:49 am

Unconditional Love allows everything to be.
So, to "fairy" anyway, it allows children to be abused because to "fairy" 'this' is so-called 'unconditional love'.

Which probably helps in explaining why "fairy" regrets, absolutely, bring children into 'this world'. And, thus why "fairy" wishes that it was also never born into 'this world'.

'This one' actually believes that 'the abuse', which it had to suffer with in childhood was all of its parent's so-called 'unconditional love' for it.
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:49 am There’s nothing excluded from Gods love.
'This one' has certainly not yet grasped what the words, 'unconditional love', and, 'God's love', are actually meaning and referring to, exactly.
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:49 am I don’t know how many times I’ve mentioned this to you, but you choose not to listen, and the reason you don’t listen is because you have closed yourself off to others points of view. You are not open you are closed.

Start a thread if using the right words is important to you. You could call the thread HOW TO USE THE RIGHT WORDS TO AVOID CONTRADICTING YOURSELF.

Until you start that thread you’ll just continue to make an absolute ass out of yourself which you have successfully succeeded to do in every interaction you’ve ever had with others and is why most people just ignore you.

Your communication style is atrocious.
Okay.

But have you noticed your, human being, communication style over the last few thousand years or so, hitherto when this is being written?

Is what is happening and occurring 'now' in all of what you people call the 'war-torn' places caused from 'kind' communication style, or would it be better described as coming from, literally, an 'atrocious' communication style?
You both need tutoring in communication via use of English.
Could 'we' all need more tutoring in 'communication', via use of whatever language?

If no, then who is/are 'the one/s' who do/es not need any tutoring in communication?

Re: God.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2025 10:40 am
by Age
Belinda wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 10:16 am
Age wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 5:56 am
LuckyR wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 5:36 am

Just concentrate on number 5 and you'll get it.
But if you had already concentrated, enough, then you would have already got it.
Good point, Age, (Number 5)but Lucky did not imply that.
So, what did "luckyr" imply, exactly?

I asked the question, 'Does some thing only exist if there is some one believing in 'it'?'

"luckyr" wrote in reply, 'It does for entities that exist inter-subjectively'.

What, exactly, is being implied in this response?

Re: God.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2025 11:17 am
by Fairy
🛑 Stop changing the subject.

https://youtu.be/b2T_Ny4hXrk?si=hhfxUglnhhQ81OdL

Theory that the universe exists only to observe itself through you.

Re: God.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2025 11:35 am
by Age
Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 11:17 am 🛑 Stop changing the subject.

https://youtu.be/b2T_Ny4hXrk?si=hhfxUglnhhQ81OdL

Theory that the universe exists only to observe itself through you.
Because of who and what 'I' am, exactly, 'I/God' needed 'you' human beings, and especially those amazing human brains, in order to come to know thy Self.

Being only made up of 'matter', and, 'space', 'I' needed species to evolve, with senses, to be able to 'sense/observe', and it was through the human brain, which is able to collect and store 'information', as memory, from and through the five senses, how 'I' could 'experience', and then, eventually, learned, and knew, irrefutably, who and what 'I' am, exactly.

How the Universe works is just by the 'matter' being able to be able to move about, absolutely freely, because of the 'space' between and around all matter. And, it is 'matter' interacting with itself how all things were, are, and will be created.

Why the Universe exists is because the Universe could not be in any other way, than It is at every moment. And, why 'I' exist is so that 'I' can bear witness to the beauty that 'I' am Creating.

Re: God.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2025 3:10 pm
by Belinda
Age wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 10:34 am
Belinda wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 10:11 am
Age wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 4:21 pm

So, to "fairy" anyway, it allows children to be abused because to "fairy" 'this' is so-called 'unconditional love'.

Which probably helps in explaining why "fairy" regrets, absolutely, bring children into 'this world'. And, thus why "fairy" wishes that it was also never born into 'this world'.

'This one' actually believes that 'the abuse', which it had to suffer with in childhood was all of its parent's so-called 'unconditional love' for it.


'This one' has certainly not yet grasped what the words, 'unconditional love', and, 'God's love', are actually meaning and referring to, exactly.


Okay.

But have you noticed your, human being, communication style over the last few thousand years or so, hitherto when this is being written?

Is what is happening and occurring 'now' in all of what you people call the 'war-torn' places caused from 'kind' communication style, or would it be better described as coming from, literally, an 'atrocious' communication style?
You both need tutoring in communication via use of English.
Could 'we' all need more tutoring in 'communication', via use of whatever language?

If no, then who is/are 'the one/s' who do/es not need any tutoring in communication?
One would be very good indeed if one did not benefit from Improvement.
You don't need to be told who makes the best use of English on the forum. Try thinking this out for yourself ,then what you do is try to formulate a general rule for good use of English for the purpose of transmitting ideas.