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Age wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 1:39 pm Obviously this applies to 'you' only, here, as 'I' have NO beliefs at all, here. It is ONLY 'you', here, who accepts BELIEFS, which you can NOT even explain.

A belief is a proposition that you accept as true.

You assert "'I' have NO beliefs at all", which is a proposition that you apparently accept as true, i.e. a belief.
However, the belief "'I' have NO beliefs at all" is clearly contradictory.

godelian wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 2:24 pm

Age wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 1:39 pm Obviously this applies to 'you' only, here, as 'I' have NO beliefs at all, here. It is ONLY 'you', here, who accepts BELIEFS, which you can NOT even explain.

A belief is a proposition that you accept as true.

OBVIOUSLY one would HAVE TO first have a proposition that they accept as true. I do NOT have propositions that I accept as true. Therefore, unlike 'you' I do NOT have beliefs, here.

godelian wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 2:24 pm You assert "'I' have NO beliefs at all", which is a proposition that you apparently accept as true, i.e. a belief.

Talk about another prime example of one believing some thing to be true BEFORE even beginning to just seek out CLARIFICATION, FIRST.

I will just say and write, ' you are Wrong, once again, here'.

But, you do not accept this because you 'currently' BELIEVE that you are NOT Wrong, here, right?

godelian wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 2:24 pm However, the belief "'I' have NO beliefs at all" is clearly contradictory.

OBVIOUSLY, this one has PROVED, AGAIN, that it is, still, NOT YET OPEN enough to just 'discuss' things, here.

But, at least you have appeared to make much better arguments here than you previously have, although your arguments here are, still, NOT YET sound and valid arguments. Which, AGAIN, are the ONLY arguments worthy of being repeated.

Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:02 am Notice and observe how no ancient or present day religion or philosophy prioritised happiness, but peace and meaning and stillness.

So even when I got what I thought would make me happy, maybe for a brief spell, it would seem so, but that would always change. But peace within has a calming depth that I can enter into, and the depth keeps expanding.


'' He who seeks, let him not cease seeking until he finds; and when he finds he will be troubled, and when he is troubled he will be amazed, and he will reign over the All. and when he has reigned, he shall find rest. '' ~ The immortal words of Jesus. R. I. P.

I understand the bible to simply be a book of philosophy. Which of course comes a bit after Socrates created it. It reminds me of a song by "Tears for Fears - Everybody Wants to Rule the World."

Age wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 2:42 pm OBVIOUSLY, this one has PROVED, AGAIN, that it is, still, NOT YET OPEN enough to just 'discuss' things, here.

Everything you say is deemed "possibly true" until you say a contradiction.

As I have pointed out already, your belief that you do not have beliefs, is contradictory. Hence, your core foundational belief is simply false.

godelian wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 3:40 am

Age wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 2:42 pm OBVIOUSLY, this one has PROVED, AGAIN, that it is, still, NOT YET OPEN enough to just 'discuss' things, here.

Everything you say is deemed "possibly true" until you say a contradiction.

As I have pointed out already, your belief that you do not have beliefs, is contradictory. Hence, your core foundational belief is simply false.

As I have pointed out already, this one is OBVIOUSLY NOT YET OPEN, and thus READY, to have a discussion, here.

LOL This one's actual, CLOSED, BELIEF, here, is that I have A BELIEF, here.