!!! STOP PRODUCING HUMANS !!!

[Arising_uk]

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People aren't that special. We are basically an algorithm running on a biologic computer.

If this is the case then all animals are 'algorithms' running upon biological computers. But according to you below this 'algorithm' could possibly create more such 'people algorithms', so people appear very special.

It is entirely possible to emulate the human mind on a computer of sufficient capabilities, and that computer would be every bit as conscious as we are. Not only that, but it can be improved as to not have the problems we do.

Ever thought that this might be the actual case now, so why do you think we could improve upon it?

"Mind" is a problematic word in Philosophy but then you choose not to know that. I guess you mean that we may be able to emulate the CNS on a computer but unless you link it up with senses it'll not be as conscious as we are. You could try and simulate a false environment for it but if it's as complicated as us then you'd need the computing power of the current universe I guess.

See this, "Not only that, but it can be improved as to not have the problems we do.", I think this kind of thought the result of two cultural themes that live large in the American, Christianity and Psychology or more specifically Fraudian psychoanalysis. The first lays down the idea of 'original sin', a 'fall from grace', a lost eden or utopia, a lost golden state of Man, etc. The second relegates reason to a seething set of unconscious drives and sexual desires. Together they produce the idea that there is a 'problem' with Man that needs to be fixed. It also explains why you are always chasing a chimera.

People have this innate desire to be relevant and special, but we aren't.

And yet nearly everyone is relevant and special to someone.

Again, 8 billion is enough...

For what? According to whom? According to you this is already too many. What is it that you worry about? That this 8 billion(always hate the fact that the billion has been downgraded and the meaning of the word debased) have brought the American cultural story and now want to live and consume at your levels?

Always ironic that those who consume the most wish others to stop reproducing when they consume the least. Here's a thought, Americans consume approx 35 times more than the poor of the world, now there's what? 270 million of you, times that by 35 and thats 9,450,000,000 people, so kill all Americans and problem solved, we'd have roughly doubled the resources for those left.

Any additions are not only selfish but irresponsible in this Third Industrial Revolution.[/size]

I still only see the Industrial Revolution, now if the Nano-tech Cornucopia machine or self-replicator gets built then there will be a Second Industrial Revolution, on-top of that will be a possible Biological Revolution.

Anyhoo, all this yakking about population just disguises the reality that its not really a problem of population but economic politics.

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Over the past few years I have drenched myself in the writings & videos of Jeremy Rifkin.


Jeremy Rifkin coined the term Third Industrial Revolution and I view the world through this lens.






You're welcome and thank you for participating upon this thread.

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[Arising_uk]

Over the past few years I have drenched myself in the writings & videos of Jeremy Rifkin.

Jeremy Rifkin coined the term Third Industrial Revolution and I view the world through this lens.

Then you should immerse yourself more as he is talking about what he thinks is coming not that it's here and he points out that there are quite a few things that could derail it.
{quote]You're welcome and thank you for participating upon this thread.[/quote]In this instance I thank you as Rifkin was unknown to me and is interesting. Although I think his idea of an internet of electricity is a bit dubious as electricity does not move like data.

[Melchior]

I get no respect at all. I threw some change in the Salvation Army pot...they threw it back at me!


http://www.jeffpearlman.com/naked-rodney-dangerfield/

[Bill Wiltrack]

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I Thank all of you for participating in this thread.


To the poster who questions our timely relationship to this evolving Digital Revolution, This Third Industrial Revolution, I enjoy the fact that you have exposed yourself to the writings of Jeremy Rifkin.


I do not want to make a big deal of this because there is so much to Rifkin that I hope you continue to experience. And your opinion in this matter is just as valid as mine.


I will say, it is my opinion, that I believe we are smack dab in the middle of the Third Industrial Revolution; the Digital Revolution.


Drones, self-driving electric cars, contour crafting & the ability to purchase 3D printers virtually at the store down your street, yes I think we are in the center of this amazing revolution.



But again, I do not want to turn you off.

Please stay open to Rifkin's videos...I have literally watched, The Empathetic Civilization at least 50 times and I STILL ENJOY IT & I still learn from that straightforward 10 minute video.




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Rodney. ALWAYS appropriate !


I feel like I'm treated like Rodney on this forum ALL THE TIME.





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We are quickly reaching a point where we just don't need humans anymore. - and that time cannot come soon enough!



PLEASE, if you are a younger member here at The Forum - fight the urge to merge.


According to another thread, a couple of the, hopefully, female members here have decided to wank to me - or everything I represent. Though I would not suggest wanking to me necessarily wanking may be a viable substitute to merging; having sex with another.


Almost everything bad I associate to some sort of human activity in one way or another.


Cheers.



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[Arising_uk]

We are quickly reaching a point where we just don't need humans anymore. - and that time cannot come soon enough!]

Do you understand the confusion and stupidity in this statement? I'll give you a clue - Who's this "we"?

[Arising_uk]

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PLEASE, if you are a younger member here at The Forum - fight the urge to merge.

And end up a confused and existentially angst-ridden gnu.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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Wait a minute!


Are you referring to me?



If you are, if you are trying to phase me you are barking-up the wrong tree.


I am overwhelmingly depressed with where I find myself and the state of life in general.


That may change for me within my lifetime. It may not. THAT is crippling me and the point of my life.



Snarling at me in all sort of different ways upon this forum is only, at this point, making you look even more sophomoric than you may already be.


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[Arising_uk]

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Are you referring to me?

See any other gnus about?

If you are, if you are trying to phase me you are barking-up the wrong tree.

Good job I'm not then.

I am overwhelmingly depressed with where I find myself and the state of life in general.

Ever thought its to do with your 'philosophy'?

That may change for me within my lifetime. It may not. THAT is crippling me and the point of my life.

You appear to be in the happy or unhappy position of not having to work. I think you should shut your computer for a few months and rejoin your fellow man in some kind of group activity as the weeb is just confirming your bias and you appear unable to choose anything else. Try a team sport, find a group hobby, do some volunteer work, barring that rejoin your faith and go to church with your wife.

Snarling at me in all sort of different ways upon this forum is only, at this point, making you look even more sophomoric than you may already be.[/size].

As usual you think too much of yourself as I'm not 'snarling' but just saying.

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Rust Cohle: I think human consciousness is a tragic misstep in evolution. We became too self-aware. Nature created an aspect of nature separate from itself. We are creatures that should not exist by natural law. We are things that labor under the illusion of having a self, this accretion of sensory experience and feelings, programmed with total assurance that we are each somebody, when in fact everybody's nobody. I think the honorable thing for our species to do is to deny our programming. Stop reproducing. Walk hand in hand into extinction. One last midnight, brothers and sisters opting out of a raw deal.

Marty Hart: I got an idea, let's make the car a place of silent reflection from now on. Okay?

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[GreatandWiseTrixie]

Bill - Barking up the wrong tree. Chances are, all of the propagating rabbits wouldn't even bother to make an account in a forum like this.

Also, your idea about extinction is misguided. Self-awareness helps with the Holy Experiments, but the problem is flawed Human DNA. It would be better if we converted the humans to evolved Unicorns.

Arising_uk - Why do you recommend the man surround himself with the drug of Untruth?? He may get so addicted we may never see him again, dragged down in the vortex of ignorance by his family and friends.

[Systematic]

To the OP: I can get you a good deal on some child traps. They keep down population, and you'll never have to hear "I'm hungry" again.

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

To the OP: I can get you a good deal on some child traps. They keep down population, and you'll never have to hear "I'm hungry" again.

Hmm, thought those were only legal in Thailand.