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socratus wrote:Today everybody knows that the Universe had a beginning from 'Big Bang'.
Alternative question:
Can the Universe begin to exist from Absolute Vacuum Zero: T=0K?
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We have two opinions about vacuum:
1
The most fundamental question facing 21st century physics will be:
What is the vacuum? As quantum mechanics teaches us, with
its zero point energy this vacuum is not empty and the word
vacuum is a gross misnomer!
/ Prof. Friedwardt Winterberg /
2
Why do physicists refuse to take vacuum as a fundament of Universe?
Book : ‘Dreams of a final theory’ by Steven Weinberg. Page 138.
‘ It is true . . . there is such a thing as absolute zero; we cannot
reach temperatures below absolute zero not because we are not
sufficiently clever but because temperatures below absolute zero
simple have no meaning.’
/ Steven Weinberg. The Nobel Prize in Physics 1979 /
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We need to understand what 'nothing' / vacuum is.
Paul Dirac wrote:
" The problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion,
is the basic problem now before physics. Really, if you can't correctly
describe the vacuum, how it is possible to expect a correct description
of something more complex? "
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Today everybody knows that the Universe had a beginning from 'Big Bang'.
As result of 'Big Bang' the temperature in universe is now T=2,7 . . . .
.. . .and this T=2,7 every second goes down to . . . T=0K.
When the universe reach the T=0K we will be all died. . . . .
. . . . but thanks to the ENTROPY, it will not allow this death.
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Let me to repeat my standpoint here: Vacuum is a model of the order; vacuum supervises a free (inertial) motion. Vacuum is increasing (condensates) along the (local) timeline from the messy, frivolous future. (: Sorry God :) That, what bring a clutter into Universe, are elementary particles (as defects of regular structure of vacuum)

Cerveny wrote:

socratus wrote:Today everybody knows that the Universe had a beginning from 'Big Bang'.
Alternative question:
Can the Universe begin to exist from Absolute Vacuum Zero: T=0K?
==..
We have two opinions about vacuum:
1
The most fundamental question facing 21st century physics will be:
What is the vacuum? As quantum mechanics teaches us, with
its zero point energy this vacuum is not empty and the word
vacuum is a gross misnomer!
/ Prof. Friedwardt Winterberg /
2
Why do physicists refuse to take vacuum as a fundament of Universe?
Book : ‘Dreams of a final theory’ by Steven Weinberg. Page 138.
‘ It is true . . . there is such a thing as absolute zero; we cannot
reach temperatures below absolute zero not because we are not
sufficiently clever but because temperatures below absolute zero
simple have no meaning.’
/ Steven Weinberg. The Nobel Prize in Physics 1979 /
==.
We need to understand what 'nothing' / vacuum is.
Paul Dirac wrote:
" The problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion,
is the basic problem now before physics. Really, if you can't correctly
describe the vacuum, how it is possible to expect a correct description
of something more complex? "
=.
Today everybody knows that the Universe had a beginning from 'Big Bang'.
As result of 'Big Bang' the temperature in universe is now T=2,7 . . . .
.. . .and this T=2,7 every second goes down to . . . T=0K.
When the universe reach the T=0K we will be all died. . . . .
. . . . but thanks to the ENTROPY, it will not allow this death.
===…

Let me to repeat my standpoint here:
Vacuum is a model of the order;
vacuum supervises a free (inertial) motion.
Vacuum is increasing (condensates) along the (local) timeline
from the messy, frivolous future. (: Sorry God
That, what bring a clutter into Universe, are elementary particles
(as defects of regular structure of vacuum)

The model of theory of vacuum is the " theory of ideal gas"
because they both have temperature T=0K
Virtual particles move in this cold kingdom.
From this cold kingdom is increasing material world
( through entropy).
That, what bring a new life into Universe,
are elementary particles (as defects of regular structure of vacuum)
/ socratus /
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P.S.
Entropy is a process in which elementary particles
break (make defects - fluctuation - transformation )
in the structure of vacuum: T=0K.
=.

socratus wrote:

Cerveny wrote: Let me to repeat my standpoint here:
Vacuum is a model of the order;
vacuum supervises a free (inertial) motion.
Vacuum is increasing (condensates) along the (local) timeline
from the messy, frivolous future. (: Sorry God :)
That, what bring a clutter into Universe, are elementary particles
(as defects of regular structure of vacuum)

The model of theory of vacuum is the " theory of ideal gas"
because they both have temperature T=0K
Virtual particles move in this cold kingdom.
From this cold kingdom is increasing material world
( through entropy).
That, what bring a new life into Universe,
are elementary particles (as defects of regular structure of vacuum)
/ socratus /
==..
P.S.
Entropy is a process in which elementary particles
break (make defects - fluctuation - transformation )
in the structure of vacuum: T=0K.
=.

I am to consider the temperature is zero in the “future” phase (: in an “ideas kingdom” :). But I have some problems with “gas-like model” – it brings certain difficulties with keeping different physical (fields) values in continuum… Gases tend to smoothen it :(

Cerveny wrote:

socratus wrote:

Cerveny wrote: Let me to repeat my standpoint here:
Vacuum is a model of the order;
vacuum supervises a free (inertial) motion.
Vacuum is increasing (condensates) along the (local) timeline
from the messy, frivolous future. (: Sorry God
That, what bring a clutter into Universe, are elementary particles
(as defects of regular structure of vacuum)

The model of theory of vacuum is the " theory of ideal gas"
because they both have temperature T=0K
Virtual particles move in this cold kingdom.
From this cold kingdom is increasing material world
( through entropy).
That, what bring a new life into Universe,
are elementary particles (as defects of regular structure of vacuum)
/ socratus /
==..
P.S.
Entropy is a process in which elementary particles
break (make defects - fluctuation - transformation )
in the structure of vacuum: T=0K.
=.

I am to consider the temperature is zero in the “future” phase (: in an “ideas kingdom” .
But I have some problems with “gas-like model” –
it brings certain difficulties with keeping different physical
(fields) values in continuum…
Gases tend to smoothen it

. . . the “future” phase . . . (: in an “ideas kingdom” . ..
no matter how you name it . . it is vacuum . . .
vacuum as a “gas-like model” is not a firm reference frame . . . .
in a local places “gas-like model” vacuum can be changed
. . . by potential virtual particles
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Socratus, if I am talking about a different "phase", I mean a different arrangement, different causality, different phase of matter in the past and in the future. I care about how a history is raising, is born from the future during presence process...

Cerveny wrote:Socratus, if I am talking about a different "phase",
I mean a different arrangement,
different causality,
different phase of matter in the past and in the future.
I care about how a history is raising,
is born from the future during presence process...

I try to explain the same ideas.

Physicists Francois Englert of Belgium and Peter Higgs of Britain
have won the 2013 Nobel Prize in Physics for predicting
the existence of the Higgs boson particle.
However, our knowledge of particle physics is still far from complete,
with mysteries such as the nature of dark matter to still be solved.
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My question is:
In which frame of reference the Higgs boson was found ?
In LHC this frame of reference is a vacuum.
Without vacuum the LHC is a good place for formula-1 competition.
Then other question, what is a vacuum?
The answer:
‘ All kinds of electromagnetic waves ( including light’s)
spread in vacuum . . . . thanks to the vacuum, to the specific
ability of empty space these electromagnetic waves can exist.’
/ Book : To what physics was come, page 32. R. K. Utiyama. /
Ok. Vacuum is not an empty space.
But . . . what is vacuum itself ?
Answers.
1
" The problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion,
is the basic problem now before physics. Really, if you can’t correctly
describe the vacuum, how it is possible to expect a correct description
of something more complex? "
/ Paul Dirac ./
2.
The most fundamental question facing 21st century physics will be:
What is the vacuum? As quantum mechanics teaches us, with
its zero point energy this vacuum is not empty and the word
vacuum is a gross misnomer!
/ Prof. Friedwardt Winterberg /
3
When the next revolution rocks physics,
chances are it will be about nothing—the vacuum, that endless infinite void.
http://discovermagazine.com/2008/aug/18 ... everything
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Vacuum is still a fundamental puzzle in physics.
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Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik Socratus
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OP you are speaking complete nonsens!

Aether is a very oudated form of preciveing the universe, please stop spewing this kind of babble.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_(classical_element)

No, absolute zero temperature doesn't magically makes particles flat, that's jumping to conclusions, particles gain shape because of motion, and their motion is in average forming cirular particles that expands their size, nothing in Quantum Physics will suggest they form a flat shape when cooled.