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Pistolero wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 7:14 pm Transsexualism is rooted in Abrahamic superstitions, concerning kellipots trapping divine sparks, or in Christianity, "souls" trapped in despicablem sinful "bodies".
Often trapping souls in the "wrong bodies."
Ooopsie...

The same logic....but it proves to be threatening to the faithful...so douchebags, like Peterson, had to step in, before the logic of Abrahamism, could destroy the entire cult.

The allegory of the Jesus narrative is about the body being sacrificed to "release" the soul - divine spark - so that ti can return to its original uniformity.....God.
So, in Abrahamism all physical traits are illusory.....and the spirit/spark, has neither race, nor sex....
It is pure and unblemished by the physical.
When Jesus is "reborn" he comes back as "pure spirit" - meaning pure ideal.
A linguistic abstraction that can embody any form.
The entire dogma is nihilistic - nature hating.
I seduces all those who find nature unjust and cruel....all those seeking relief, i.e., salvation.

Pistolero wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 7:14 pm Transsexualism is rooted in Abrahamic superstitions, concerning kellipots trapping divine sparks, or in Christianity, "souls" trapped in despicablem sinful "bodies".
Often trapping souls in the "wrong bodies."
Ooopsie...

"transsexualism: a desire to live and be accepted as a member of the opposite sex, usually accompanied by a sense of discomfort with, or inappropriateness of, one's anatomic sex and a wish to have hormonal treatment and surgery to make one's body as congruent as possible with the preferred sex." — ICD-10: F64.0

Trajk Logik wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:30 pm

Consul wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 5:40 am You are wrong, because transvestism and travesty aren't the same thing. Yes, there are male transvestites who are (interested in) doing travesty, but there are also many ones who are not.

While Transvestism (cross-dressing) is not by definition a travesty, it often involves a convoluted view of one's self and the need to force others to believe in your delusion that you are something other than you are, which is the travesty.

You can wear what you want, but it typically does not stop there because they expect others to believe that the way they dress literally makes them the opposite sex.

Consul wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:12 pm

Trajk Logik wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:30 pm

Consul wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 5:40 am You are wrong, because transvestism and travesty aren't the same thing. Yes, there are male transvestites who are (interested in) doing travesty, but there are also many ones who are not.

While Transvestism (cross-dressing) is not by definition a travesty, it often involves a convoluted view of one's self and the need to force others to believe in your delusion that you are something other than you are, which is the travesty.

You can wear what you want, but it typically does not stop there because they expect others to believe that the way they dress literally makes them the opposite sex.

"Typically"? – I strongly doubt there are many (transsexual or non-transsexual) male transvestites who seriously believe and also expect others to believe that wearing women's clothes literally turns them into women.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 3:33 pm Not just to "believe," but to "affirm" and to modify one's own speech and deny one's own perception of reality by using "pronouns" forced upon everybody else by the autogynephile. They insist that they are being "erased" or "deadnamed" if you stick to your own perception of truth, and they insist it's a "hate crime" if you don't "affirm" not their real identity but the one they wish to impose on you.

Consul wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:32 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 3:33 pm Not just to "believe," but to "affirm" and to modify one's own speech and deny one's own perception of reality by using "pronouns" forced upon everybody else by the autogynephile. They insist that they are being "erased" or "deadnamed" if you stick to your own perception of truth, and they insist it's a "hate crime" if you don't "affirm" not their real identity but the one they wish to impose on you.

Who are they?

Consul wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:59 pm The notion of transsexualism (transsexuality) as defined in the older ICD-10 doesn't presuppose body-soul dualism:

Consul wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:59 pmSo, basically, the mental state of transsexuality consists in the (intense and permanent) desire or wish to be a member of the opposite sex.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:56 pm You're actually describing Gnosticism, not Christianity or Judaism. Gnosticism was not genuinely "Abrahamic." It was a mystical cult that grew up alongside both of the former, and employed the names of the people listed in those Scriptures in new "narratives" that denigrated the body, elevated the idea of "spirit" and claimed that "salvation" meant the reunion of the disembodied soul with the mystical "Divine."

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:56 pmGenesis neither supports that narrative nor that conclusion. Nor do any of the Christian Scriptures. In fact, it's likely that the entire book of Colossians was written primarily to dispatch the Gnostic heresy, since it debunks key Gnostic terms like "pleroma".

Thought you'd want to know that.

Pistolero wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:43 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:56 pm You're actually describing Gnosticism, not Christianity or Judaism. Gnosticism was not genuinely "Abrahamic." It was a mystical cult that grew up alongside both of the former, and employed the names of the people listed in those Scriptures in new "narratives" that denigrated the body, elevated the idea of "spirit" and claimed that "salvation" meant the reunion of the disembodied soul with the mystical "Divine."

Gnosticism was an offshoot of Abrahamism and Orphic mysticism....leading to Kabbalism.

The Jews appropriated spiritual ideas from every host they were expelled from, beginning with Egyptian monotheism, and mysticism.
Nothing original about Judaism.

Christianity is Judaized Platonism.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:56 pmGenesis neither supports that narrative nor that conclusion. Nor do any of the Christian Scriptures. In fact, it's likely that the entire book of Colossians was written primarily to dispatch the Gnostic heresy, since it debunks key Gnostic terms like "pleroma".

Thought you'd want to know that.

The idea that a immortal soul is trapped in a mortal body, comes form the Jews and their kellipots.....this has evolved into the secular version detaching identity from the physically apparent.

Christianity incorporated many aspects of Hellenic lore into its superstitions, to make Jewish victim identity digestible to pagans.
The Big Christian Lie

What is Gnosticism? - Bart Erhman

Pistolero wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 11:03 pm No, dear....not "everything".
Your attempt to belittle and dismiss, to continue on with your conventional thinking, is insufficient.

Judaism is dominant, at this period in history, for one basic reason....it dominates the United States and through Christianity, the west.
Americanism is infected by Judaism, and through America's dominance, ti is attempting to dominate the world - Americanism = Globalism.
Messianism is an Abrahamic trait.
This is obvious in Trump claiming that the US has been taken advantage by its own vassal states.
Victimhood is another trait of Abrahamism.

Imagine a hyper-power accusing its provinces that they are taking advantage its "benevolent generosity."

They Whip you and cry out in pain....

Pistolero wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 11:07 pm You protest too much, my dear.
The "evidence" is before your eyes, but you refuse to see.

Such anger....did I touch a nerve?

Do you want me to go, so that you can continue gifting the men-children your womanly wisdom?