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Re: Why Do the Religious Reject Science While Embracing the Impossible?

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:31 pm
by Alexis Jacobi
Dubious wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:26 pm You said this many times before. Why hesitate? Is my analysis of your character beginning to grate? :roll:
Beginning to grate, you ask. BEGINNING?!?

It’s best I don’t say anything right now. I feel I might EXPLODE!!

Re: Why Do the Religious Reject Science While Embracing the Impossible?

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 2:16 pm
by Alexis Jacobi
Hail! Alexis cometh!
The Worm Dubious: All this has become magnified due to your oranged-faced traitor and idiot, whom idiots like you voted for, to change sides or at least grant a higher priority to Moscow than to Europe which, having recognized the threat (perhaps too late), is now forced to rapidly rearm.
In my view — this is the important point — this description, because it is hysterical, emotional, unbalanced and exaggerated in specific ways, gives evidence to the power of “crowd psychology”. Trump Derangement Syndrome is a pathological malady. A contagion that infects the mind. Like a “mind virus” it moves from mind to mind and takes on a life of its own.

The quoted paragraph having dripped from the mouth of an hysteric, shows how we can get emotionally trapped by a propaganda-line. It is not wholly inaccurate — propaganda is always based on part-truths— but it is not sufficiently accurate to serve people who genuinely desire to understand.

The truthful fact? America provoked a war, attempted to back it (for extremely cynical reasons), and lost the gambit. Now, it has no other bargaining chips. Except perhaps wheedling mineral concessions. Some theorists proposed that the whole purpose was to create an outcome where vast corporations could then “buy up the place”.

The real truths are very different from propaganda narratives, my darling, innocent children. 🧒 👦 More disturbing I think.

Are the critiques that form it invalid? False? No, not quite. What hysterical descriptions do is distort one’s relationship to “reality”. One invests, as it were, in a Golem through bizarre psychological projections , and that Golem walks …

Then, it is not the real phenomenon of the advent of anti-liberal activists, or even of demagogues and opportunists, but rather one is fighting one’s own hysterical, hallucination-contaminated content that one has exteriorized.

Again, this is a mass psychological phenomenon.

Re: Why Do the Religious Reject Science While Embracing the Impossible?

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 2:49 pm
by Alexis Jacobi
24 Feb. 2025 Monday / Journal Entry

Fair day, overcast. The birds are twittering. Tal arrived last night. Looks overwrought. I hope she gets good rest.

I continue trying to reason with the inmates-denizens of Philosophy Now. At times it seems futile, but since I counseled them that even when a battle is likely lost one is duty-bound to act heroically … I carry on.

Seventeen new sign-ups for The Course.

The tulips are about to bloom.

Re: Why Do the Religious Reject Science While Embracing the Impossible?

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:19 pm
by Gary Childress
Alexis Jacobi wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 2:49 pm
24 Feb. 2025 Monday / Journal Entry

Fair day, overcast. The birds are twittering. Tal arrived last night. Looks overwrought. I hope she gets good rest.

I continue trying to reason with the inmates-denizens of Philosophy Now. At times it seems futile, but since I counseled them that even when a battle is likely lost one is duty-bound to act heroically … I carry on.

Seventeen new sign-ups for The Course.

The tulips are about to bloom.
Seventeen people who are going to learn that Hitler wasn't as bad as many made him out to be. Oh well. So much for my education. What a waste it was. I just read the wrong books. :oops: :|

Re: Why Do the Religious Reject Science While Embracing the Impossible?

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 4:27 pm
by Atla
Alexis Jacobi wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:58 am
Atla wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 5:07 am Now imo Europe is a sleeping giant and will stand up when really forced to do so. It can arm itself to the teeth when really necessary. This is the part that many today don't understand imo. It just would have been better to avoid this.
The narrative you ironically presented is one we have all received and incorporated. It is a view with all sorts of propaganda potential. But it definitely is not a complete view. And it negates — doesn’t consider — another significant dimension: the tendency of the US to exacerbate problems and the far more extensive meddling, intervention and invasion that are part of its geopolitical games and strategy.

Seen in context the picture is understood differently.

My position is not so much in opposition to those machinations (speaking of the US) — power always does what power can — and much more to present things in the light of “political realism”. For that reason John Mearsheimer has the most coherent view.

And I definitely have no interest in arguing the rightness or wrongness of Russia’s politics. How Europe should have dealt you Russia is outside of my scope. Though to have been led by US policy seems not to have worked out well.

My understanding is that Russia has the upper hand at this point. It “won”. And that it was foolish to have provoked this war through “questionable” policy over decades. And now the result is simply a horrible outcome.

At this point the Trump policy is geopolitical sanity: it has no leverage.

I have little interest in justifying or railing for or against Europe developing its offensive and defensive capabilities. The only point is that it is what is going to happen.
I didn't present a narrative, I presented the facts. And the US should meddle wherever it's possible to weaken Russia. Trump is making a horrible mistake. He's putting America third behind Russia and therefore also behind China.

Re: Why Do the Religious Reject Science While Embracing the Impossible?

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 5:59 pm
by Alexis Jacobi
I didn't present a narrative, I presented the facts. And the US should meddle wherever it's possible to weaken Russia.
You certainly presented some facts. But also a specific narrative. I am pretty sure that you are aware of this (?)

I reckon your opinion is as valid as mine, and note that my opinion is largely completed of what 3 experts have said: Jeffrey Sacks, John Meersheimer, and one (ex-) Colonel MacGregor.

Re: Why Do the Religious Reject Science While Embracing the Impossible?

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 6:37 pm
by seeds
Alexis Jacobi wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 2:16 pm Trump Derangement Syndrome is a pathological malady. A contagion that infects the mind. Like a “mind virus” it moves from mind to mind and takes on a life of its own.
It's amazing how "maga minds" are so utterly oblivious of the fact that when they use the term "Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS)" in a way that is meant to be an insult to the "lefties," they are exemplifying - in the purest and most obvious manner - what the word "projection" truly means,...

...for no one is more deranged (more blindly afflicted with the "TDS" malady) than those who believe that the greediest, griftin'-est, cheatin'-est, most pathologically narcissistic, and, above all, the most prolific liar to have ever walked the face of the earth,...

...is worthy and deserving of the most powerful political office on the planet.

It is time to relegate all of the Jesus and Gandhi types of the world to the backburners of our minds, because, for the next thousand years, we now have a new role model for our children to emulate.

And to aid in our everyday worship of our new messiah, even though it might be a myth, nevertheless, for just $79.99 (plus shipping and handling), Trump will send you a plastic (made in China) 1/32 scale model of the fabled "golden throne" he sat on during some of his most productive moments in life.
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Re: Why Do the Religious Reject Science While Embracing the Impossible?

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 6:56 pm
by Alexis Jacobi
Gary Childress wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:19 pm Seventeen people who are going to learn that Hitler wasn't as bad as many made him out to be.
That would be a really helpful exercise for you. To undertake an investigation of who, in fact, Hitler actually was. As distinct from what Hitler was created into. I.e. a figure of Absolute Evil.

In Le Bon’s The Crowd he talks about the crowd mind and how it mythologizes historical figures.

I have a book that examines Hitler’s personal library. I thought it odd indeed that one of his favorite books was Uncle Tom’s Cabin.

(And it must surprise that one of my favorites is White Slaves of Lesbo Island).

À chacun son goût, right?

Re: Why Do the Religious Reject Science While Embracing the Impossible?

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 7:11 pm
by Alexis Jacobi
seeds wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 6:37 pm ...for no one is more deranged (more blindly afflicted with the "TDS" malady) than those who believe that the greediest, griftin'-est, cheatin'-est, most pathologically narcissistic, and, above all, the most prolific liar to have ever walked the face of the earth,...

...is worthy and deserving of the most powerful political office on the planet.
Excellent! I am saved!

:::performs an Irish jig then clicks his heels:::

I do not think Trump is “deserving” of his position. He gained his position through a whole series of causal factors.

Personally, my hope in in the degree to which this figure Trump energizes Europe.

And the degree to which he energizes a new group of American political actors.

Remember: “Trump is an armor-piercing shell”.

Re: Why Do the Religious Reject Science While Embracing the Impossible?

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 7:16 pm
by Alexis Jacobi
PS: I paid just $8.89 for my Golden Throne.

Re: Why Do the Religious Reject Science While Embracing the Impossible?

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 8:01 pm
by Atla
Alexis Jacobi wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 5:59 pm
I didn't present a narrative, I presented the facts. And the US should meddle wherever it's possible to weaken Russia.
You certainly presented some facts. But also a specific narrative. I am pretty sure that you are aware of this (?)

I reckon your opinion is as valid as mine, and note that my opinion is largely completed of what 3 experts have said: Jeffrey Sacks, John Meersheimer, and one (ex-) Colonel MacGregor.
What narrative? Imo you simply don't know Russia. You are entitled to your wrong opinion. I don't care about various narratives in the US.

Re: Why Do the Religious Reject Science While Embracing the Impossible?

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 8:07 pm
by Dubious
Alexis Jacobi wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 2:16 pm Hail! Alexis cometh!
The Worm Dubious: All this has become magnified due to your oranged-faced traitor and idiot, whom idiots like you voted for, to change sides or at least grant a higher priority to Moscow than to Europe which, having recognized the threat (perhaps too late), is now forced to rapidly rearm.
In my view — this is the important point — this description, because it is hysterical, emotional, unbalanced and exaggerated in specific ways, gives evidence to the power of “crowd psychology”. Trump Derangement Syndrome is a pathological malady. A contagion that infects the mind. Like a “mind virus” it moves from mind to mind and takes on a life of its own.
Best you return to your refurbished metaphysics of no consequence since reality eludes you.

...and BTW, Trump Derangement Syndrome is an extremely precise description of the pathological malady which infected the idiot brains of Trump voters and worse Trump cultists. There are many now becoming aware of how incredibly stupid their choice was. As for cultists, there is nothing one can do to shovel common sense into brains already putrefied. I'm not quite ready to put you into that category but give it time, you're doing a good job so far!

I mean, who of any intelligence would choose a demented cheeseburger brain to lead them except another dumbass. America with the help of its many citizens has become the greatest super-power capital of dumbasses on the planet, the national debt about equal to the national deficit in brain power.

Re: Why Do the Religious Reject Science While Embracing the Impossible?

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 8:23 pm
by Alexis Jacobi
Duly noted.

Re: Why Do the Religious Reject Science While Embracing the Impossible?

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 8:33 pm
by Alexis Jacobi
Atla wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 8:01 pm Imo you simply don't know Russia. You are entitled to your wrong opinion. I don't care about various narratives in the US.
Don’t know Russia?!?

I’ll have you know I watch Eli from Russia.

🇷🇺

All the points I made stand. Solid, irrefuted.

Re: Why Do the Religious Reject Science While Embracing the Impossible?

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:00 pm
by Atla
Alexis Jacobi wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 8:33 pm
Atla wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 8:01 pm Imo you simply don't know Russia. You are entitled to your wrong opinion. I don't care about various narratives in the US.
Don’t know Russia?!?

I’ll have you know I watch Eli from Russia.

🇷🇺

All the points I made stand. Solid, irrefuted.
Your country should be occupied by the Russians, that would get you to shut up.