Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 3:19 am
Other than the mention of "race," which is really racist in itself, by definition, there's nothing about the rest of the list that is even remotely extreme or reprehensible. Shouldn't we have the right to discuss "demographics?" What would one do with "sexual deviancy" other than "confront" it? And are Feminist ideologues above critique? Even their own people critique them.
So an ordinary, thinking person could do any of the above. I see nothing in that list (except, "race") that even remotely smacks of extremism or anything dangerous at all.
As it happens I am always leery and over-careful when I bring up certain topics, or link to controversial sites, so when I mentioned that the Alt-Right/Dissident Right movement is 'dangerous', and I only mean this in a factual sense and it is not that I judge them as 'dangerous/bad', but that there is
factually a great deal more about their ideas, their views, their stances and if you will their intellectual activism that involves *unthinkable thought* understood, popularly, to be *dangerous* (i.e. bad & evil).
Specifically I will point out that many, though I cannot say most, take anti-Christian positions and also very strong Jewish-critical positions. Certainly this is the case with Greg Johnson as it is with
Red Ice (Lana Lokteff and Henrik Palmgren). These two are non-philo-Christian and decidedly pro-pagan. They are pro-European and pro-White (a category I note that you reject, and not without a certain amount of sound reasoning). I can assure you that their ideas are seen as extremely provocative and indeed they too were de-platformed and de-banked when their work was publicized (through the
Harper's article and in other places too).
There is also Adam Green -- another interesting figure -- who did once have a large following on YouTube before being banned (and demonetized) and who now presents his work on BitChute, Gab, Odysee and other platforms. You can get a sense for yourself of what he works to expose
here. Obviously, it will curl your toes and the reason is -- as I have said at other times -- your brand of Christianity is really and essentially a masked Judaism. And Judaism, when examined through the lens of what the true-blue Orthodox actually believe about their mission, is extremely sick, ugly and destructive. This is one thing that I can genuinely thank you for, though you did not intend it, and that is that you helped me to understand that it is not sick, distorted Evangelical Christianity that is an *enemy* but rather the core tenets expressed in strict Judaism -- about being a 'select' people and about having an extremely poisonous attitude toward *the nations*. As I have said many times I grew up in California on the fringes of Reform Judaism, which is really an assimilated version and pseudo-Jewish, so an examination of the more hardcore forms has been a revealing and somewhat shocking process.
Now, I bring this Jewish-critical aspect to your attention (and to the readership here) only because there is a very strong idea-movement now circulating all over the Internet that delves into a sharp and sustained criticism of Christianity generally but certainly also Judaism and Jewish machinations (I do not know what other term to employ) in our present. (As one example I cite the conflict between Elon Musk on Twitter and the ADL through the person of Jonathan Greenblatt.) Probably one of the most influential exponents of a Jewish-critical position is
Kevin MacDonald who wrote
The Culture of Critique.
Christianity is described as one of the primary engines of our modern multi-cultural social philosophy. Alain de Benoist, I think, has most thoroughy and coherently described
why and how Christianity is so very destructive to traditional cultures, and as you will have noted I have linked Judaism's intolerance (indeed hatred, murderous activity and destruction) of the gods and religious philosophy of *the nations* to that of Christian intolerance of the same. Christianity in this sense acts like Islamic belief: it corrals people into belief-systems that cannot vary. Christian anthropology can therefore be examined critically and, as I say, it sponsors the *multi-culturalism* and also the *anti-racism* that is so intensely powerful in our present. So what is dangerous about this Alt-Right.Dissident Right is that it dissects liberal intentionality by going right to the core with a reasoned and I think coherent critical Christian exposition.
As I said previously, the Alt-Right and the Dissident Right have far more in common with *Original America* than with the refurbished and redefined pseudo-America of our present. An America that is ruled, let's say, by an ideological régime which says it has everything to do with true Americanism yet when examined has very little to do with such, and indeed is battling against it. You might (i.e. you-plural) truly value the New America and hate the Old America and it is not my point to debate which is right or good, but rather to locate the social and cultural conflicts within real and comprehensive categories.
To illustrate, I will mention that writers that have long been pulled off library shelves -- such as Madison Grant and Lothrop Stoddard (
The Passing of the Great Race [1916] and
The Rising Tide of Color [1920] respectively) have been rediscovered and re-read and their ideas broadcast within those circles identified as Alt-Right/Dissident Right. And this is why their is a resurgence of the notion of *White nationalism* and the awkening (reawakening) of a type of race-consciousness that, as I suggest, is part-and-parcel of
unthinkable thought. And this is why, of course, there is so much resistance to any type of ethically-defined national consciousness, not only in America, but in Europe and elsewhere. You are not allowed to think in such terms nor to defend *your people* *your culture* *your traditions* if you make any reference to race and ethnicity. To do so is to reveal oneself as *evil* according to new definitions. Enforced through a sense of moral condemnation.
And as all who read here know, and beyond all doubt, even to suggest that seeing, thinking and acting for such values and ideas is immediately labeled as evil and racist. Again --
unthinkable thought.
So I have made an effort you outline what the so-called Alt-Right/Dissident Right actually is, where their expositions can be found, and also to allude to their influence: an influence that is very real and very considerable. When you drive something underground that forces it to spread in non-conventional ways. Like mushroom
mycelium. Ideas or sentiments that are repressed tend, always, to show up in other, sometimes strange and disturbing ways. That is a psychological fact.
The guy's obviously senile. You can't possibly convince me you can't see what the rest of the world can see so plainly. He's a walking vegetable, an international joke, who can't even put a sentence together. How come you don't know that?