it is going where it always goes...Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:25 am ...
History is chaotic and supremely unpredictable. Who knows where this is going.
we simply have better weapons this time
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it is going where it always goes...Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:25 am ...
History is chaotic and supremely unpredictable. Who knows where this is going.
Ain't that the truth.Impenitent wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 2:52 amit is going where it always goes...Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:25 am ...
History is chaotic and supremely unpredictable. Who knows where this is going.
we simply have better weapons this time
-Imp
I think that the extent and power of the unprecedented persecution of Trump, and the popularity of Trump with the middle class, shows where it has already gone.Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:25 am
History is chaotic and supremely unpredictable. Who knows where this is going.
There is notable resistance for several reasons. These include:Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 2:13 pm Therefore the question becomes What is going on? Why is there such notable resistance? And why is this (articulate, thoughtful, though also at times semi-hysterical, even irrational) resistance labeled “fascistic” and effectively described as evil?
I agree with your list. There are certainly many other factors that could be mentioned. In fact a great deal of the Dissident Right (AKA the Alt-Right) lays down many different ideas and speculations, some grounded in sound reason, some less so.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:37 pm And there are probably other reasons as well. Some might even combine with more than one of the above.
[The Fruits of Technocracy: Quantitative Analysis Shows Google Steered 6 Million Votes to Biden in 2020]Ben Bartley reports on PJ Media: “Robert Epstein….director of the American Institute for Behavioral Research and Technology (AIBRT), has concluded through a quantitative analysis of Google search engine manipulation and subsequent extrapolation to the population level that the company… added six million votes to Joe Biden’s column in 2020. If accurate, this was more than enough to have artificially swayed the election….The value of Epstein’s work is that it confirms what is immediately obvious to anyone paying attention who searches a contentious term in Google and then searches for the exact same term in a non-compromised search engine like DuckDuckGo.”
Where is this "Alt-Right" thing?
It is a term that I think was coined by Richard Spenser sometime close to when he edited Taki’s Magazine. See for example A FairHearing: The Alt-Right in the Words of its Members and Leaders, edited by George T. Shaw (2018 Arktos Media Ltd).
See Arktos. Or Counter-Currents. Or Unz Review.If they exists, it's in a closet somewhere.
Never heard of even one of them. Never seen them in the press. Never seen them in the news or on film anywhere. Never seen them in politics, education, medicine or any other compartment of human endeavour. Never read one of their books or manifestos. These people have no public profile at all, it seems.
Those are good questions. Could it be because the alt-right is more dangerous than the alt-left and therefore gets suppressed more often? I noticed at least one common theme that goes against "political correctness" on each of those sites. What are your thoughts? Given that most economic and political leaders in the US are white, should we go ahead, open the censorship floodgates, and let the sparks fly (and let God sort 'em out when it's all done)?Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:28 pmNever heard of even one of them. Never seen them in the press. Never seen them in the news or on film anywhere. Never seen them in politics, education, medicine or any other compartment of human endeavour. Never read one of their books or manifestos. These people have no public profile at all, it seems.
At the same time, I've heard plenty from people on the radical Left.
So if the Alt-Right is such a threat, and the radical Left isn't, then how can that be? Why is it so hard to find an "Alt-Righter"? And why is it such a darn simple matter to find the radical Left?
Well, I think you already know the answer to your mystified perspective: the ideas of the "Alt-Right" (and the Dissident Right which is my preferred term) are extremely suppressed. They confront directly and with a certain intellectual force the tenets of Hyper-Liberalism. They are not afraid to speak about issues of race and demographics, or to confront sexual deviancy, and to challenge feminist tenets that have become established as if they are God's own word.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:28 pmNever heard of even one of them. Never seen them in the press. Never seen them in the news or on film anywhere. Never seen them in politics, education, medicine or any other compartment of human endeavour. Never read one of their books or manifestos. These people have no public profile at all, it seems.
At the same time, I've heard plenty from people on the radical Left.
So if the Alt-Right is such a threat, and the radical Left isn't, then how can that be? Why is it so hard to find an "Alt-Righter"? And why is it such a darn simple matter to find the radical Left?
As you know they followed the Gramscian plan and "marched through the institutions" over a 50-60 year period (even a bit longer actually). The process by which this *cultural engineering* happened is my personal area of interest.At the same time, I've heard plenty from people on the radical Left.
In at least some notable senses the Dissident Right (I will drop the term Alt-Right) is far more connected with, let's say, the genuine roots of America and Americanism. That is, to Jeffersonian America. And that *America* was beyond any question what we would now say *pro-white*. America was a nation founded on certain ideas about Anglo-Saxon Protestants and their culture. Indeed America, the nation, was founded and created because these men saw themselves and their creation (our Constitution, our laws, our mores) as being different, unique and superior. There is no doubt about this and there should be no doubt.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 11:34 pm Could it be because the alt-right is more dangerous than the alt-left and therefore gets suppressed more often?
Dr. Krebs offers a devastating critique of multiculturalism, showing that although it claims to be the watchman of racial and cultural diversity, it is actually destructive to both, as it denies the significance of racial differences altogether. He traces its origins to the legacy of the Judaeo-Christian tradition, and shows how this has developed into many of the most powerful tools of liberalism of our times. These are serving the interests of the global marketplace by turning all of humanity into compliant consumers. Those who endorse multiculturalism are, in fact, the enemies of all traditional culture. Dr. Krebs also takes issue with the use of the term ‘West’ to describe our culture, which he sees as an effort to deprive the various European cultures which comprise it of their unique characters and histories. This will lead to their replacement by a grey conformity divorced from any authentic roots, as well as a value system that is frequently used as a weapon against those nations which refuse to share them. This assault is not limited to Europe, but is something that is going on in every corner of the globe.
Dr. Krebs says that it is time for all those who believe in the worthiness of their heritage and unique ethnic identity to return to the wellsprings of their peoples, and defend what is rightfully theirs. With a deeper trench between the camps of multiculturalism and traditional culture being dug all the time, this is the conflict that will define the 21st century. Drawing examples from many of the most notable contributors to science, philosophy and religion, Dr. Krebs illustrates a truth that is difficult to deny. Anyone who heeds his warning will find it impossible not to accept his challenge to take sides in the ongoing struggle against universal conformity.
Dr. Pierre Krebs (b. 1948) is a major figure in Neue Kultur, the German branch of the European New Right, and is also the leader of the Thule-Seminar. He holds degrees in law, journalism, sociology, and political science. This is his first work to be translated into English
Here is Tomislav Sunić's review."...our task is to oppose the egalitarian ethos and egalitarian socio-economic thinking with a world-view based on differentiation: this means an ethic and a socio-economic theory which respects the right to be different. We want to create the system of values and attitudes necessary for gaining control of cultural power. Our strategy is dictated neither by the immediate contingencies of reality nor the superficial upheavals of political life. We are not interested in political factions but in attitudes to life... What motivates us and what we are striving for does cannot be accommodated within the activities of a political party, but - and we insist on this point - solely within the framework of a metapolitical, exclusively cultural project. A programme which sets out once again to make us conscious of our identity through awakening the memory of our future, as it were. In this way we aim to prepare the ground for what is to come... The tragedy of the contemporary world is the tragedy of disloyalty: the uprooting of every culture, estrangement from our true natures, the atomization of man, the levelling of values, the uniformity of life. A critical and exhaustive engagement with modern knowledge - from philosophy to ethology, from anthropology to sociology, from the natural sciences to history and educational theory - if carried out with the appropriate intellectual rigour and sound empirical methodology, can only contribute to throwing light on the general confusion of the world."
The "process" was essentially spending 400 years practicing institutionalized slavery and wiping out the native inhabitants of the Americas. After my ancestors did that, (at least some of) their children learned the hard way that what happened at the hands of our ancestors was morally reprehensible. What other "new world" 'secrets' would you like me to share with you? Did Russia get enough of Stalin, now you all want to make Russia "great" again and bring back the czars so people in bread lines will get trampled by cavalry instead of sending private business owners to gulags?Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 12:11 amWell, I think you already know the answer to your mystified perspective: the ideas of the "Alt-Right" (and the Dissident Right which is my preferred term) are extremely suppressed. They confront directly and with a certain intellectual force the tenets of Hyper-Liberalism. They are not afraid to speak about issues of race and demographics, or to confront sexual deviancy, and to challenge feminist tenets that have become established as if they are God's own word.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:28 pmNever heard of even one of them. Never seen them in the press. Never seen them in the news or on film anywhere. Never seen them in politics, education, medicine or any other compartment of human endeavour. Never read one of their books or manifestos. These people have no public profile at all, it seems.
At the same time, I've heard plenty from people on the radical Left.
So if the Alt-Right is such a threat, and the radical Left isn't, then how can that be? Why is it so hard to find an "Alt-Righter"? And why is it such a darn simple matter to find the radical Left?
Many of the figures I mentioned have developed perspectives that are absolutely and thoroughly dissident and as such deal in *unthinkable thought*. Things that you are not allowed to think or to say.
If you have not seen the press where they have been exposed, I am unsure what to say. The Atlantic did numerous pieces of Lana Lokteff and Richard Spenser. In fact there was a good deal of (bad) press a few tears back.
As you know they followed the Gramscian plan and "marched through the institutions" over a 50-60 year period (even a bit longer actually). The process by which this *cultural engineering* happened is my personal area of interest.At the same time, I've heard plenty from people on the radical Left.