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Re: Why humans can't get rid of their egos ?

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:51 am
by Logik
Age wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:49 pm On WHAT exactly?
You need to stop being an asshole.
And I need to stop being immature.

I thought it's obvious?

Re: Why humans can't get rid of their egos ?

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:13 am
by Age
Lacewing wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:31 pm
Age wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:55 pm
Lacewing wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:25 pm So much noise. Not worth wading through or taking seriously. Good luck to you.
If what I write is to hard, to complex, and to illogical for you to comprehend and understand...
:D You may be intoxicated with your own spin, but other people may not find as much value in it. There are surely countless worthwhile perspectives and approaches to choose from, and they don't all have to be convoluted and spun-up in themselves -- although it's a common human/ego tendency to do so. The more noise, the more spin... is a common pattern I've noticed.
Fair enough. But without clarity, through clarifying questions, all you are doing is ASSUMING you know what it is that I have to express, which could be completely and utterly WRONG.

But if you NEVER question, you will NEVER know.

Re: Why humans can't get rid of their egos ?

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:16 am
by Age
Logik wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:51 am
Age wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:49 pm On WHAT exactly?
You need to stop being an asshole.
And I need to stop being immature.

I thought it's obvious?
To work on stopping to be 'immature' is obvious. One, literally, just needs to grow up, to be more mature. However,
how does one, literally, work on stopping to be an 'asshole'? How does one stop being a hole in an animal's body?

Also, when, and IF, one works to stop being an "asshole", what then do they become?

Re: Why humans can't get rid of their egos ?

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:57 am
by Logik
Age wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:13 am Fair enough. But without clarity, through clarifying questions, all you are doing is ASSUMING you know what it is that I have to express, which could be completely and utterly WRONG.

But if you NEVER question, you will NEVER know.
Every time somebody asks you an clarifying question - you attack them.

Re: Why humans can't get rid of their egos ?

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:14 am
by Age
Logik wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:57 am
Age wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:13 am Fair enough. But without clarity, through clarifying questions, all you are doing is ASSUMING you know what it is that I have to express, which could be completely and utterly WRONG.

But if you NEVER question, you will NEVER know.
Every time somebody asks you an clarifying question - you attack them.
Another accusation. SHOW where this, supposedly, happened. Do NOT just say it happened. If you provide an example, then I WILL answer the question.

Re: Why humans can't get rid of their egos ?

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:20 am
by Logik
Age wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:14 am Another accusation. SHOW where this, supposedly, happened. Do NOT just say it happened. If you provide an example, then I WILL answer the question.
No. You can do your own homework.

I am not interested in hearing your excuses/justifications for your behavior.

Re: Why humans can't get rid of their egos ?

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:29 am
by Age
Logik wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:20 am
Age wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:14 am Another accusation. SHOW where this, supposedly, happened. Do NOT just say it happened. If you provide an example, then I WILL answer the question.
No. You can do your own homework.

I am not interested in hearing your excuses/justifications for your behavior.
LOL You appear to be absolutely BLINDED by your own DISTORTED views.

ONCE AGAIN you are ACCUSING me of doing, or that I going to do, some thing. Do you now have any proof that I have made an excuse/justification for what you ALLEGE I have done? Of yes, the WHERE is it?

There is CERTAINLY NO excuse/justification in the post that you are replying to now.

YOU say I attack people EVERY TIME they ask me a clarifying question, YET when I ask you to provide just one example you say that I can do my own homework.

Besides the FACT that I am NOT going to do any homework and look for some thing, which I wonder is even there, your inactions are SHOWING us that just maybe you are incapable of providing any evidence at all for your ASSUMPTIONS and ACCUSATIONS.

IF EVERY time I am asked a clarifying question I attack ,as you propose is the case, then PROVE IT. Just ONE example WILL suffice.

Now that you have ONCE AGAIN made another ACCUSATION against me here now you can also provide some EVIDENCE for this also. That is, OF COURSE, if you can.

Re: Why humans can't get rid of their egos ?

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:52 am
by Logik
Age wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:29 am
Logik wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:20 am
Age wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:14 am Another accusation. SHOW where this, supposedly, happened. Do NOT just say it happened. If you provide an example, then I WILL answer the question.
No. You can do your own homework.

I am not interested in hearing your excuses/justifications for your behavior.
LOL You appear to be absolutely BLINDED by your own DISTORTED views.

ONCE AGAIN you are ACCUSING me of doing, or that I going to do, some thing. Do you now have any proof that I have made an excuse/justification for what you ALLEGE I have done? Of yes, the WHERE is it?

There is CERTAINLY NO excuse/justification in the post that you are replying to now.

YOU say I attack people EVERY TIME they ask me a clarifying question, YET when I ask you to provide just one example you say that I can do my own homework.

Besides the FACT that I am NOT going to do any homework and look for some thing, which I wonder is even there, your inactions are SHOWING us that just maybe you are incapable of providing any evidence at all for your ASSUMPTIONS and ACCUSATIONS.

IF EVERY time I am asked a clarifying question I attack ,as you propose is the case, then PROVE IT. Just ONE example WILL suffice.

Now that you have ONCE AGAIN made another ACCUSATION against me here now you can also provide some EVIDENCE for this also. That is, OF COURSE, if you can.
There you go... ^^^^^ this entire post is an attack.

You do not take well... no scratch that. You are incapable of processing criticism or negative feedback without becoming defensive.

Re: Why humans can't get rid of their egos ?

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:05 am
by Age
Logik wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:52 am
Age wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:29 am
Logik wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:20 am
No. You can do your own homework.

I am not interested in hearing your excuses/justifications for your behavior.
LOL You appear to be absolutely BLINDED by your own DISTORTED views.

ONCE AGAIN you are ACCUSING me of doing, or that I going to do, some thing. Do you now have any proof that I have made an excuse/justification for what you ALLEGE I have done? Of yes, the WHERE is it?

There is CERTAINLY NO excuse/justification in the post that you are replying to now.

YOU say I attack people EVERY TIME they ask me a clarifying question, YET when I ask you to provide just one example you say that I can do my own homework.

Besides the FACT that I am NOT going to do any homework and look for some thing, which I wonder is even there, your inactions are SHOWING us that just maybe you are incapable of providing any evidence at all for your ASSUMPTIONS and ACCUSATIONS.

IF EVERY time I am asked a clarifying question I attack ,as you propose is the case, then PROVE IT. Just ONE example WILL suffice.

Now that you have ONCE AGAIN made another ACCUSATION against me here now you can also provide some EVIDENCE for this also. That is, OF COURSE, if you can.
There you go... ^^^^^ this entire post is an attack.
The entire thread was SHOWING that you make ASSUMPTIONS and ACCUSATIONS without providing any support for them.
Logik wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:52 amYou do not take well...
But I am taking ALL of this very well. Thank you. What you are doing SUPPORTS what I am SAYING and SHOWING. YOU, through YOUR very words, IS my back up and evidence.
Logik wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:52 amno scratch that. You are incapable of processing criticism or negative feedback without becoming defensive.
If you SEE that asking for evidence is being "defensive", then so be it. Some would say that the very opposite is the truth, of what is actually occurring.

Re: Why humans can't get rid of their egos ?

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:10 am
by Logik
Age wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:05 am
Logik wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:52 am
Age wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:29 am

LOL You appear to be absolutely BLINDED by your own DISTORTED views.

ONCE AGAIN you are ACCUSING me of doing, or that I going to do, some thing. Do you now have any proof that I have made an excuse/justification for what you ALLEGE I have done? Of yes, the WHERE is it?

There is CERTAINLY NO excuse/justification in the post that you are replying to now.

YOU say I attack people EVERY TIME they ask me a clarifying question, YET when I ask you to provide just one example you say that I can do my own homework.

Besides the FACT that I am NOT going to do any homework and look for some thing, which I wonder is even there, your inactions are SHOWING us that just maybe you are incapable of providing any evidence at all for your ASSUMPTIONS and ACCUSATIONS.

IF EVERY time I am asked a clarifying question I attack ,as you propose is the case, then PROVE IT. Just ONE example WILL suffice.

Now that you have ONCE AGAIN made another ACCUSATION against me here now you can also provide some EVIDENCE for this also. That is, OF COURSE, if you can.
There you go... ^^^^^ this entire post is an attack.
The entire thread was SHOWING that you make ASSUMPTIONS and ACCUSATIONS without providing any support for them.
Logik wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:52 amYou do not take well...
But I am taking ALL of this very well. Thank you. What you are doing SUPPORTS what I am SAYING and SHOWING. YOU, through YOUR very words, IS my back up and evidence.
Logik wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:52 amno scratch that. You are incapable of processing criticism or negative feedback without becoming defensive.
If you SEE that asking for evidence is being "defensive", then so be it. Some would say that the very opposite is the truth, of what is actually occurring.
Exactly. Your above response is evidence for my claim. You do not take to criticism gracefully.

I do not need to provide evidence, because your actions speak for themselves.

Re: Why humans can't get rid of their egos ?

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:30 am
by Age
Logik wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:10 am
Age wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:05 am
Logik wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:52 am
There you go... ^^^^^ this entire post is an attack.
The entire thread was SHOWING that you make ASSUMPTIONS and ACCUSATIONS without providing any support for them.
Logik wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:52 amYou do not take well...
But I am taking ALL of this very well. Thank you. What you are doing SUPPORTS what I am SAYING and SHOWING. YOU, through YOUR very words, IS my back up and evidence.
Logik wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:52 amno scratch that. You are incapable of processing criticism or negative feedback without becoming defensive.
If you SEE that asking for evidence is being "defensive", then so be it. Some would say that the very opposite is the truth, of what is actually occurring.
Exactly. Your above response is evidence for my claim. You do not take to criticism gracefully.

I do not need to provide evidence, because your actions speak for themselves.
LOL

Re: Why humans can't get rid of their egos ?

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:35 am
by Dontaskme
Age wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:15 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:29 pm
Age wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:05 pmThat is extremely EASY and SIMPLE to answer and SHOW.
Show it then... Don’t just say it, show it ....Where is the individual self?
Age wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:05 pmWrapped up in individual thought/s.

Within every human body there are two selves, the individual self and the true Self.
You believe that Self is easy and simple to answer and show...and the above reply is your answer to my request to SHOW it?

I do NOT believe any thing. HOW CAN some thing as simple as that,NOT be understood YET?
To assert knowledge of something as a truth statement is a belief.

Re: Why humans can't get rid of their egos ?

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:37 am
by Logik
Age wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:30 am
Logik wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:10 am
Age wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:05 am

The entire thread was SHOWING that you make ASSUMPTIONS and ACCUSATIONS without providing any support for them.



But I am taking ALL of this very well. Thank you. What you are doing SUPPORTS what I am SAYING and SHOWING. YOU, through YOUR very words, IS my back up and evidence.



If you SEE that asking for evidence is being "defensive", then so be it. Some would say that the very opposite is the truth, of what is actually occurring.
Exactly. Your above response is evidence for my claim. You do not take to criticism gracefully.

I do not need to provide evidence, because your actions speak for themselves.
LOL
Laughter instead of acknowledgement.

That's rather dismissive... this supports my claim that you are an asshole.

Re: Why humans can't get rid of their egos ?

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:53 am
by Age
Dontaskme wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:35 am
Age wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:15 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:29 pm

Show it then... Don’t just say it, show it ....Where is the individual self?
Age wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:05 pmWrapped up in individual thought/s.

Within every human body there are two selves, the individual self and the true Self.
You believe that Self is easy and simple to answer and show...and the above reply is your answer to my request to SHOW it?

I do NOT believe any thing. HOW CAN some thing as simple as that,NOT be understood YET?
To assert knowledge of something as a truth statement is a belief.
From my perspective, to have or hold a BELIEF is to NOT be OPEN to anything contrary to the BELIEF.

Would you BELIEVE some thing if it was NOT true?

If no, then do you understand what I am saying, from my perspective.
If yes, then really?

Re: Why humans can't get rid of their egos ?

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:00 pm
by Dontaskme
Dontaskme:

Age.. all you've done is described it..you haven't shown it...if the individual Self exists which you say it does, then show it...does the individual self exist as a physical seen thing?
Age wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:05 pmOF COURSE NOT.

Do you understand the term, "I SEE what you mean", when some one is TELLING you some thing? Things can be and ARE 'illustrated' in words, therefore things can be 'SEEN', which also means UNDERSTAND, from WORDS.

DESCRIBING things, with WORDS, is EXACTLY how things are SHOWN, and SEEN/UNDERSTOOD.

You, especially, "dontaskme" KNOW that there is NO PHYSICAL self, therefore WHY would you even ASSUME and/or EXPECT that I was going to POINT to some physical thing?
To SEE something is to understand that no thing has ever been seen... and that things are only known not SEEN by no thing. Which means there is nothing to really understand here and that is the only understanding there is to understand.

Age wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:05 pmThe 'individual self' is NOT just "a thought". The 'individual self' IS, literally, the invisible thoughts (and emotions) within an individual physical human body. Both thoughts and emotions are obviously INVISIBLE, to the physical eyes.

Now does that make sense. If it is NOT understood, then just say so, and I will see if I can SHOW it in another way.
So is this the two selves you are talking about?...the physical and the non-physical?

The physical self being the physical body, and the non-physical self being the thought/emotion etc?

One question, can the physical body be seen?

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