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Most people to whom it applies prefer that designation.attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:27 pm You can't solve racism in US when cops fill out the form for arrests when RACE: is answered with "black".
Bloody ridiculous, is BLACK a race?
Prefer it to what?commonsense wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:52 pmMost people to whom it applies prefer that designation.attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:27 pm You can't solve racism in US when cops fill out the form for arrests when RACE: is answered with "black".
Bloody ridiculous, is BLACK a race?
To anything else.attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:56 pmPrefer it to what?commonsense wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:52 pmMost people to whom it applies prefer that designation.attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:27 pm You can't solve racism in US when cops fill out the form for arrests when RACE: is answered with "black".
Bloody ridiculous, is BLACK a race?
Prefer it to African American?commonsense wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:24 pmTo anything else.attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:56 pmPrefer it to what?commonsense wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:52 pm
Most people to whom it applies prefer that designation.
Now I get it. You’re feigning ignorance so that you can play a joke on me. Ha-ha!attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:10 amPrefer it to African American?
Are Indians black?
No I'm being serious. In what universe is "BLACK" a race?commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:41 amNow I get it. You’re feigning ignorance so that you can play a joke on me. Ha-ha!
The use of “black” for their race was coined by people who are African Americans (which is also correct but more formal).attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:45 amNo I'm being serious. In what universe is "BLACK" a race?commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:41 amNow I get it. You’re feigning ignorance so that you can play a joke on me. Ha-ha!
Do the cops put down "BLACK" if they arrest an Indian (from India with dark skin)?
Can you cite a reference for that?commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:03 amThe use of “black” for their race was coined by people who are African Americans (which is also correct but more formal).attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:45 amNo I'm being serious. In what universe is "BLACK" a race?commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:41 am
Now I get it. You’re feigning ignorance so that you can play a joke on me. Ha-ha!
Do the cops put down "BLACK" if they arrest an Indian (from India with dark skin)?
What I am attempting to point out is that putting the hue of someone's skin colour on a form is NOT A RACE!!commonsense wrote:I don’t know what cops (law enforcement officers) put on their forms for Indians from India, but the term commonly used by woke people is “brown people”, which refers to non-white people other than blacks.
Prior to the 70s I have no idea, maybe I was an African American somewhere in the US.commonsense wrote:“People of color” is the phrase commonly used to reference non-white people as a single group.
Where have you been living since the 60s?
My personal experience reading The Washington Post and watching CBS News on television in the 1960s.attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:45 amCan you cite a reference for that?commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:03 am
The use of “black” for their race was coined by people who are African Americans (which is also correct but more formal).
Blacks accept that black refers to themselves as well as it refers to a color.attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:45 amWhat I am attempting to point out is that putting the hue of someone's skin colour on a form is NOT A RACE!!commonsense wrote:I don’t know what cops (law enforcement officers) put on their forms for Indians from India, but the term commonly used by woke people is “brown people”, which refers to non-white people other than blacks.
..and it seems extremely racist to do so.
That fits with my memory.... activists and leaders, including Malcolm X and Stokely Carmichael, advocated for embracing the term "Black" to instill a sense of pride and empowerment in African American identity. They rejected "Negro" and "Colored," which were associated with historical oppression and denigration. Since then, "Black" has been widely accepted and used as a racial identifier for people of African descent in the United States. Not that it's simple. And probably some AAs wouldn't be thrilled to be called that by some non-AA they didn't know.commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:32 pm Ha! I knew that I was right to suspect that this was a trap all along. Nevertheless I will reply as follows:
My personal experience reading The Washington Post and watching CBS News on television in the 1960s.attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:45 amCan you cite a reference for that?commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:03 am
The use of “black” for their race was coined by people who are African Americans (which is also correct but more formal).
But it wasn't a trap. I truly did not know that it was accepted in US that "black" = African American. I truly thought people with brown skin of other races might be written on the form for race as 'black' also.commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:32 pm Ha! I knew that I was right to suspect that this was a trap all along. Nevertheless I will reply as follows:
Or you could with: "hi, I'm Gary" to folks who aren't blind.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:33 pm I suppose I ought to start identifying myself as a "white American of European descent". I don't think I have any relatives from the Caucasus mountains.
True.LuckyR wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2024 9:55 pmOr you could with: "hi, I'm Gary" to folks who aren't blind.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:33 pm I suppose I ought to start identifying myself as a "white American of European descent". I don't think I have any relatives from the Caucasus mountains.