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Nothing is 'bullshit' and not nothing is 'bullshit' - never belittle the faculties of comprehension that you have.TimeSeeker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:57 pmWhat? Lol.
I am arguing that the question "Does the universe exist?" is undecidable! It's stupid to even ask it!
It's metaphysical bullshit!
*yawn*.Atla wrote: ↑Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:59 pm The bit is the unit of information.
For example here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit the word "distinction" isn't even mentioned.
Yes, 0 and 1 are different, these are the two values, it's a distinction. Which doesn't mean that 1 bit is enough for "Am I thirsty?".
OK. Gedankenexperiment.
Sweet FA. So it does exist, since it is observable and us c~nts call it a universe.TimeSeeker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:12 pmOK. Gedankenexperiment.
Suppose that the universe didn't exist. What would you observe then?
Can you describe "sweet FA" to me?
Like i said above - but you posted too quick cos you timseek.... it does exist, since it is observable and us c~nts call it a universe. And us c~nts feel it with our 5 senses.TimeSeeker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:16 pmCan you describe "sweet FA" to me?
What would it feel like?
So we need a mind / a soul / a part of a human or whatever. We need a language, we need a question, which we know is a strictly yes/no distinction. Etc.TimeSeeker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:11 pm*yawn*.Atla wrote: ↑Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:59 pm The bit is the unit of information.
For example here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit the word "distinction" isn't even mentioned.
Yes, 0 and 1 are different, these are the two values, it's a distinction. Which doesn't mean that 1 bit is enough for "Am I thirsty?".
The question is "Am I thirsty?"
Hypothesis 1: Atla is thirsty
Hypothesis 2: Atla is not thirsty.
Here is one mechanism YOU can use to answer the question: flip a coin!
Another way you can answer the question is to search, "deep within your soul" for that feeling you call "thirst".
And if it's there - then the answer is "Yes!".
If the feeling is not there - then the answer is "No!"
How many bits describe a feeling? I don't fucking know any more than you do!
The fact that you have answered "I am (not) thirsty!" means you have acquired 1 bit of information.
OK, well. I am of the opinion that it doesn't. And if you feel so strongly about it you will give me examples.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:18 pm Like i said above - but you posted too quick cos you timseek.... it does exist, since it is observable and us c~nts call it a universe. And us c~nts feel it with our 5 senses.
Oh and FA means Fuck All.
Sure. The thing that constitutes the first experiences of the universe.TimeSeeker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:16 pmCan you describe "sweet FA" to me?
What would you be smelling, hearing, tasting, touching or feeling?
So what are you experiencing if there is nothing to experience?attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:22 pm Sure. The thing that constitutes the first experiences of the universe.
Sub atomic matter - beyond my consciousness that relays to said consciousness information about the external substance to said consciousness, that which pertains to the universe.TimeSeeker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:23 pmSo what are you experiencing if there is nothing to experience?attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:22 pm Sure. The thing that constitutes the first experiences of the universe.
So atomic matter is "Sweet FA" ?attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:25 pm Sub atomic matter - beyond my consciousness that relays to said consciousness information about the external substance to said consciousness, that which pertains to the universe.
No, you stated "Suppose that the universe didn't exist. What would you observe then?TimeSeeker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:26 pmSo atomic matter is "Sweet FA" ?attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:25 pm Sub atomic matter - beyond my consciousness that relays to said consciousness information about the external substance to said consciousness, that which pertains to the universe.
OK, but when I asked you to descibe the experience of "Sweet FA" you used sub-atomic particle as your example.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:28 pm No, you stated "Suppose that the universe didn't exist. What would you observe then?
I replied Sweet Fuck All (Sweet FA) - I never said the universe didn't exist - that's your side dude.